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Old 05-28-2007, 01:38 AM   #1
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Putting in a simple start button is easy enough, you just need to splice into the ignition wires so that when you press the button, it closes the same circuit that turning the key all the way would do.

But, this still requires you to insert the key and turn it to the ON position.

I am researching into commercially available RFID stuff in order to make a totally keyless solution. But, the car's built in immobilizer system might make this pretty much impossible, as it uses its own transponder system to identify the key that is physically in the ignition. No key, no way to start the engine, which sorta defeats the purpose!

Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:47 AM   #2
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Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
no it is not standard... as a matter a fact, most Yarii here do not have immobilizers (grey keys).... we have the regular OLD thin rubber black key
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:15 PM   #3
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Putting in a simple start button is easy enough, you just need to splice into the ignition wires so that when you press the button, it closes the same circuit that turning the key all the way would do.

But, this still requires you to insert the key and turn it to the ON position.

I am researching into commercially available RFID stuff in order to make a totally keyless solution. But, the car's built in immobilizer system might make this pretty much impossible, as it uses its own transponder system to identify the key that is physically in the ignition. No key, no way to start the engine, which sorta defeats the purpose!

Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
Search on the European versions! Maybe they sell the whole kit! My yaris TS has the keyless ignition system, and it doesnt require any key! Look in Europe! We have it, the question is if the sell the whole kit system!
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Search on the European versions! Maybe they sell the whole kit! My yaris TS has the keyless ignition system, and it doesnt require any key! Look in Europe! We have it, the question is if the sell the whole kit system!
Yes, it is available here too on top of the line models, I have asked the Toyota dealership about it, and they say they cannot retrofit them on normal cars. There is probably a way, but the expense of getting the OEM system would jyst not be worth it!

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so if you come up with a keyless start option, it would be very marketable in the U.S.

question... would it be the same setup as the prius 1 touch for acc 2 for start then a 3rd for off?
I'm not sure if it's something that could be made just plug and play, if I get it done it'll probably be available as a DIY and parts list...

I'm sure it's possible to control it all through a single button, OEM-style. But I really don't think my electronics skills are good enough to set up that kind of circuit. The way I'm planning it is a toggle switch (like those military style ones with the red cover for an extra dramatic look) to turn on the electrical system, then a nice big round button (look up Bulgin vandal switches, those are the bomb) for the ignition. And the whole thing only being active when a specific RFID tag is within range of a sensor...

I got a big book on RFID projects, lots of reading to do, lots of interesting ideas
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