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fidgell · 01-19-2010, 07:59 AM

Just an update as its been a few weeks since I did "the clean"... Its been VERY cold and wintery (as usual) here in Barrie, Ontario. The lights remain off and the abs is still working, so I hope the guys trying this have some luck and save their money!!!

As for dealers just replacing expensive parts, this should ONLY be done after an attempt at an extensive clean - they cant be bothered to try and just want the money. Im sure many people have handed over the $750 or so when it could have been done with a half hour clean.

Good Luck

mijemc · 01-20-2010, 08:40 AM

Hej
I just think about Toyotas spareparts list. Do anyone know how to get the list, are the list on the Internet.
I want to see if the spareparts (ABS systems) are i others Toyota models. If yes, have there been ABS problems in this models.
It could be very funny to see, fore eksempel if there is a problem with the ABS system in a model from, from eksample 2004 , wich share the same ABS system as the Yaris. Why have Toyota not fix that problem before Toyota use the system in the Yaris. That will be a very good ? to ask Toyota about. If that is the case.

Hmm: I now the gramma sucks, but you are all over 18 yers, pleace do the gramma for this Dane.
Michael

onizuka · 02-04-2010, 06:16 PM

wow, i see more ppl complaining about this sensor problem than the actual brake issue from Prius and the sticky accelerator, and yet, we got not recall. That accelerator recall has been taken out of proportion for sure.

Jake · 02-05-2010, 08:56 AM

Hi everyone - WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER TO GET A RECALL DONE!!

I did a separate post, but it should have been made here instead considering HOW MANY of us Yaris users this is happening to. Parts are backordered because of the SHEER VOLUME of sensors and harnesses being replaced.

I own a 2007 Yaris Sedan.

My brake light and ABS light are permanently on.
My brakes have been looked at, they are fine.

After paying the dealer over $100 to "diagnose" the problem, they deemed it to be my Right Rear Speed Sensor.

They say it is "seized", "faulty", "inoperable"
and recommend me replacing it along with the hub and Bearing.

The code used for the speed sensor is
CODE C0210 Right Rear Speed Sensor

Part to replace it with is
42450-52060, 89516-52090

suggested $925.40 parts and labor

just so we can compare notes....

Let me get this right. My brakes are fine, yet I need to dish out almost a thousand dollars because the speed sensor is telling me the brakes are "not" right?

The problem comes back in later years to be paid for over and over again, which shows it is a FAULTY part.

Toyota needs to make sure the Yaris is equipped to withstand snowy conditions without costing it's customers a fortune. I'm still making payments and shouldn't be having this type of problem in a fairly new car.

Right now I am just leaving the lights on, so ticked off!!

opinions anyone? How do you organize in order to find out how many people are going through this and get our voices heard for a recall?

thanks,

J

zodieman · 02-05-2010, 11:08 AM

My ABS light came on on my 07 a couple of weeks ago and would go on and off a few times a day. I thought cold affected it but it was all over the place.
I took it to my dealer and they said it needed a new right read hub to the tune of $800 CND. I passed on the repair for the time being.

After reading this thread on cleaning the sensor so I thought I would give it a try since it doesn't cost me anything to at try. I can confirm at least in my case that cleaning the sensor did the trick! ABS light is off, ABS is working perfectly again!

Toyota has a faulty design with the ABS sensor location and shouldn't be trying to gouge without at least trying to clean it first. Dealers can be crooks.

onizuka · 02-05-2010, 06:05 PM

i'm glad that the DIY cleaning and lube job fix the problem. However mind you that not every Yaris owners are car enthusiasts like we are . Most don't know zap about cars especially removing the brake components. Mind you more than 80% of Yaris owners are simple mind drivers whom know/care little about cars and DIY may not an option to them. Toyota should definitely step up and at least attempt to address the issue without gouging us $900 for their faulty design!

mr9865 · 02-08-2010, 03:45 PM

I have a feeling that once the 2009's hit the 3 year mark (when the problem seems start) it may get recalled because every 09 has ABS where it was optional in 2007-08 and it seems not many where equipped.

Hard_Yaris · 02-09-2010, 12:17 PM

I'm wondering where everyone's car was manufactured? Maybe its a localized problem to one or a two manufactures .

J- Japan
1- NUMMI
2- Canada: TMMC
3- Mexico: TMMBC
4- USA:TMMK
5- USA: TMMI, TMMCA & TMMTX

Look at the First character of your VIN number.

Mines J

Cedrica · 02-10-2010, 07:37 AM

I got the harness replaced last year at this time after much fighting with the dealer that it indeed needed to be done. So far this year with all the snow, I've had no problems. So, IMHO, it's definitely the harness.

*EDIT: And it would have cost almost $1000 but I got in there under my 100k extended warranty so it was covered.

And you want a recall? Start sending this thread to some reporters to do their homework, I'm sure there is a vulture reporter out there somewhere ready to pounce and further denigrate Toyota's reputation with a bombshell that even the Yaris isn't spared from issues, lol.

devinlamothe · 02-10-2010, 09:05 AM

Mine was manufactured in Japan. I will definitely fill out the Transport Canada thing. I have yet to actually do the clean/seal with my sensors, but there is no way I am spending ANOTHER $500+ to replace a sensor that should have been fixed.

devinlamothe · 02-10-2010, 09:14 AM

I made sure to mention the TSB which means Toyota KNOWS about the issue and will only fix it for those under warranty.

http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf

This really is a shame.

auxmike · 02-10-2010, 09:48 AM

I could'nt find an ABS equipped car when I bought mine in '08.
I'm GLAD I don't have it now!

DJCrazyChris · 02-11-2010, 09:30 AM

I have been told by my dealer that they checked for parts yesterday and there are over 600 waiting on back order. We demanded they provide a rental and we're now into week 3 as the ABS was being used on dry pavement with most braking attempts.

Anyone else waiting a VERY long time for parts.

Jake · 02-12-2010, 08:40 AM

600??!!! on back order?!! Toyota needs to address this. Thanks for the link
http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf
unbelievable that they know about it and won't do a thing.

In my post, I mentioned that my abs and brake light were on, then they went off again.

This morning when I was braking, something made a noise and I had to push a lot harder than usual to stop. It felt very "spongy". Then my abs and brake light came on again. But, my pads are fine, so I wonder what's going on?? I don't have $1000 to fix a faulty problem that they know about, but I can and will write to Transport Canada. I hope that no one gets hurt because of this problem.

thanks for the links.

Jake · 02-12-2010, 09:25 AM

Just read a lot of the other posts, I guess when I had to brake harder, that meant my abs was on even though it was dry pavement? The car didn't want to stop! Everyone please follow the previous post and write Transport Canada
____

Here it is again

_____

If you have experienced this problem with your vehicle, we request that you complete our on-line complaint form. Please include your vehicle's seventeen digit vehicle identification number (VIN), current kilometerage, a narrative of the incident or problem, along with all other pertinent and contact information. Please check the box that will allow us to contact the manufacturer on your behalf.

Please visit our webpage via the link below.
https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/PCDB-BDpp?Index

_____

also,
my vin number also starts with a "J"

devinlamothe · 02-12-2010, 09:35 AM

Wow 600 on backorder??? WTF Toyota!

This is really starting to bug me.

DJCrazyChris · 02-12-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake

This morning when I was braking, something made a noise and I had to push a lot harder than usual to stop. It felt very "spongy"

That would be the ABS working...probably when it wasn't supposed it...now imagine driving at highway speeds and needing the brakes and getting that kind of stopping power.

expat26 · 02-12-2010, 02:34 PM

I would appreciate a jpeg of the plug. My email is expat26@yahoo.com. Many thanks for taking the time.

02-05-2010, 08:56 AM	#166
Jake Drives: 1997 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 9	Add me to the List - ABS light and Explaination mark brake light on Hi everyone - WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER TO GET A RECALL DONE!! I did a separate post, but it should have been made here instead considering HOW MANY of us Yaris users this is happening to. Parts are backordered because of the SHEER VOLUME of sensors and harnesses being replaced. I own a 2007 Yaris Sedan. My brake light and ABS light are permanently on. My brakes have been looked at, they are fine. After paying the dealer over $100 to "diagnose" the problem, they deemed it to be my Right Rear Speed Sensor. They say it is "seized", "faulty", "inoperable" and recommend me replacing it along with the hub and Bearing. The code used for the speed sensor is CODE C0210 Right Rear Speed Sensor Part to replace it with is 42450-52060, 89516-52090 suggested $925.40 parts and labor just so we can compare notes.... Let me get this right. My brakes are fine, yet I need to dish out almost a thousand dollars because the speed sensor is telling me the brakes are "not" right? The problem comes back in later years to be paid for over and over again, which shows it is a FAULTY part. Toyota needs to make sure the Yaris is equipped to withstand snowy conditions without costing it's customers a fortune. I'm still making payments and shouldn't be having this type of problem in a fairly new car. Right now I am just leaving the lights on, so ticked off!! opinions anyone? How do you organize in order to find out how many people are going through this and get our voices heard for a recall? thanks, J

02-08-2010, 03:45 PM	#169
mr9865 $10.25/hr frying chicken View User's Garage Drives: 2012 Yaris L Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Posts: 262	I have a feeling that once the 2009's hit the 3 year mark (when the problem seems start) it may get recalled because every 09 has ABS where it was optional in 2007-08 and it seems not many where equipped. __________________

02-10-2010, 09:48 AM	#174
auxmike Drives: 2008 HB, A/T, Power W/L/M Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, New Yawk Posts: 2,063	I could'nt find an ABS equipped car when I bought mine in '08. I'm GLAD I don't have it now! __________________ Never take eyes off opponent - Bruce Lee

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01-19-2010, 07:59 AM	#163
fidgell Drives: 2006 Yaris RS 3 door Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Barrie ON Canada Posts: 58	Just an update as its been a few weeks since I did "the clean"... Its been VERY cold and wintery (as usual) here in Barrie, Ontario. The lights remain off and the abs is still working, so I hope the guys trying this have some luck and save their money!!! As for dealers just replacing expensive parts, this should ONLY be done after an attempt at an extensive clean - they cant be bothered to try and just want the money. Im sure many people have handed over the $750 or so when it could have been done with a half hour clean. Good Luck

01-20-2010, 08:40 AM	#164
mijemc Drives: Yaris Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Denmark Posts: 5	Hej I just think about Toyotas spareparts list. Do anyone know how to get the list, are the list on the Internet. I want to see if the spareparts (ABS systems) are i others Toyota models. If yes, have there been ABS problems in this models. It could be very funny to see, fore eksempel if there is a problem with the ABS system in a model from, from eksample 2004 , wich share the same ABS system as the Yaris. Why have Toyota not fix that problem before Toyota use the system in the Yaris. That will be a very good ? to ask Toyota about. If that is the case. Hmm: I now the gramma sucks, but you are all over 18 yers, pleace do the gramma for this Dane. Michael

02-04-2010, 06:16 PM	#165
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	wow, i see more ppl complaining about this sensor problem than the actual brake issue from Prius and the sticky accelerator, and yet, we got not recall. That accelerator recall has been taken out of proportion for sure.

02-05-2010, 11:08 AM	#167
zodieman I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 1	My ABS light came on on my 07 a couple of weeks ago and would go on and off a few times a day. I thought cold affected it but it was all over the place. I took it to my dealer and they said it needed a new right read hub to the tune of $800 CND. I passed on the repair for the time being. After reading this thread on cleaning the sensor so I thought I would give it a try since it doesn't cost me anything to at try. I can confirm at least in my case that cleaning the sensor did the trick! ABS light is off, ABS is working perfectly again! Toyota has a faulty design with the ABS sensor location and shouldn't be trying to gouge without at least trying to clean it first. Dealers can be crooks.

02-05-2010, 06:05 PM	#168
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	i'm glad that the DIY cleaning and lube job fix the problem. However mind you that not every Yaris owners are car enthusiasts like we are . Most don't know zap about cars especially removing the brake components. Mind you more than 80% of Yaris owners are simple mind drivers whom know/care little about cars and DIY may not an option to them. Toyota should definitely step up and at least attempt to address the issue without gouging us $900 for their faulty design!

02-09-2010, 12:17 PM	#170
Hard_Yaris Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 109	I'm wondering where everyone's car was manufactured? Maybe its a localized problem to one or a two manufactures . J- Japan 1- NUMMI 2- Canada: TMMC 3- Mexico: TMMBC 4- USA:TMMK 5- USA: TMMI, TMMCA & TMMTX Look at the First character of your VIN number. Mines J

02-10-2010, 07:37 AM	#171
Cedrica Drives: 2007 Yaris sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fredericton Posts: 4	I got the harness replaced last year at this time after much fighting with the dealer that it indeed needed to be done. So far this year with all the snow, I've had no problems. So, IMHO, it's definitely the harness. *EDIT: And it would have cost almost $1000 but I got in there under my 100k extended warranty so it was covered. And you want a recall? Start sending this thread to some reporters to do their homework, I'm sure there is a vulture reporter out there somewhere ready to pounce and further denigrate Toyota's reputation with a bombshell that even the Yaris isn't spared from issues, lol.

02-10-2010, 09:05 AM	#172
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	Mine was manufactured in Japan. I will definitely fill out the Transport Canada thing. I have yet to actually do the clean/seal with my sensors, but there is no way I am spending ANOTHER $500+ to replace a sensor that should have been fixed.

02-10-2010, 09:14 AM	#173
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	I made sure to mention the TSB which means Toyota KNOWS about the issue and will only fix it for those under warranty. http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf This really is a shame.

02-11-2010, 09:30 AM	#175
DJCrazyChris Drives: Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 5	I have been told by my dealer that they checked for parts yesterday and there are over 600 waiting on back order. We demanded they provide a rental and we're now into week 3 as the ABS was being used on dry pavement with most braking attempts. Anyone else waiting a VERY long time for parts.

02-12-2010, 08:40 AM	#176
Jake Drives: 1997 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 9	600??!!! on back order?!! Toyota needs to address this. Thanks for the link http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/T-S...20C0215%29.pdf unbelievable that they know about it and won't do a thing. In my post, I mentioned that my abs and brake light were on, then they went off again. This morning when I was braking, something made a noise and I had to push a lot harder than usual to stop. It felt very "spongy". Then my abs and brake light came on again. But, my pads are fine, so I wonder what's going on?? I don't have $1000 to fix a faulty problem that they know about, but I can and will write to Transport Canada. I hope that no one gets hurt because of this problem. thanks for the links.

02-12-2010, 09:25 AM	#177
Jake Drives: 1997 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 9	Just read a lot of the other posts, I guess when I had to brake harder, that meant my abs was on even though it was dry pavement? The car didn't want to stop! Everyone please follow the previous post and write Transport Canada ____ Here it is again _____ If you have experienced this problem with your vehicle, we request that you complete our on-line complaint form. Please include your vehicle's seventeen digit vehicle identification number (VIN), current kilometerage, a narrative of the incident or problem, along with all other pertinent and contact information. Please check the box that will allow us to contact the manufacturer on your behalf. Please visit our webpage via the link below. https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/PCDB-BDpp?Index _____ also, my vin number also starts with a "J"

02-12-2010, 09:35 AM	#178
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	Wow 600 on backorder??? WTF Toyota! This is really starting to bug me.

02-12-2010, 02:34 PM	#180
expat26 I've made a post! Drives: 07 Hatchback AT/AC/ABS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 1	I would appreciate a jpeg of the plug. My email is expat26@yahoo.com. Many thanks for taking the time.