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Old 11-29-2010, 07:27 PM   #1
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I too was wondering if they could be piggybacked, since you are correct. No vvt-i w/ dezod. Too bad they require the stock tb. Are you allowed to bore it?
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:37 PM   #2
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Too bad they require the stock tb. Are you allowed to bore it?
No, its 100% stock. That is how they balance a class with 40 year old British cars and new cars.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:49 PM   #3
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Well guys the XB is at CFT getting the T/B wired into the Microtech and some other misc. Nitrous wiring done. The car should be ready to tune by end of week.

I know my cams are a little more wilder than yours and will have no way to test mine stock because of my standalone and all my mods but well she what she produces soon.

Keep in mind I did away with the VVTI which is also why my cam grind is full race as well as microtech only allows me to turn on vvti which makes it more like vvt.

I wanted a more race old school set-up. I know I got alot going on under the hood and will not be able to tell you what does the trick but I will assume it's a combination of all my stuff being Big and built strong.

70mm T/B
3" pipe
680cc injectors
big turbo
Crazy cams
Full stand-alone

All I know, is this better do something good.

Will post new complete engine bay pics in an hour or so.

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Old 11-29-2010, 07:53 PM   #4
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Well guys the XB is at CFT getting the T/B wired into the Microtech and some other misc. Nitrous wiring done. The car should be ready to tune by end of week.

I know my cams are a little more wilder than yours and will have no way to test mine stock because of my standalone and all my mods but well she what she produces soon.

Keep in mind I did away with the VVTI which is also why my cam grind is full race as well as microtech only allows me to turn on vvti which makes it more like vvt.

I wanted a more race old school set-up. I know I got alot going on under the hood and will not be able to tell you what does the trick but I will assume it's a combination of all my stuff being Big and built strong.

70mm T/B
3" pipe
680cc injectors
big turbo
Crazy cams
Full stand-alone

All I know, is this better do something good.

Will post new complete engine bay pics in an hour or so.

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With a turbo I don't think I would worry about the few trivial HP/TQ lost from not having VVTi.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:55 PM   #5
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I was thinking like you were. Though it will still interesting to see what happens,

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Old 12-02-2010, 01:33 AM   #6
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Keep in mind I did away with the VVTI which is also why my cam grind is full race as well as microtech only allows me to turn on vvti which makes it more like vvt.
Through my experience building my custom setup, the VVTi on our engine is one of the main points that play a good role what power and torque across all rpm range is.

That depends what the owner intend to use the car for . It could run on street or race or both. I chose both and for me the VVti is essentially needed on street where I am not always on the 6k rpm range. With the VVti tuned correctly you get a good power and torque all across the lower and higher rpms (which is nice to see a good feel only at 3K).

In your case, I don't think you care of low/medium rpm ranges since yours is built for race purposes. If I were you, I would lock the cam at a desired angle (depending what the dyno shows you) and eliminate the VVti completely.
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:52 AM   #7
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Your thoughts are some what like mine on this. Here is what were doing.

first tune without the vvti on


Second tune with vvti on

third with no vvti and lock the cam angle

of the three we will see which is best.

Gotta see how the Gude cams and new throttle body respond to the motor.

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Old 12-02-2010, 11:21 AM   #8
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Your thoughts are some what like mine on this. Here is what were doing.

1 - first tune without the vvti on

2 - Second tune with vvti on

3 - third with no vvti and lock the cam angle

of the three we will see which is best.

Gotta see how the Gude cams and new throttle body respond to the motor.

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1 - You mean with the Cam timing connector disconnected - which would be fully retarded.

2 - Are you sure your management can fully control VVTi? Do you have pics of the management software part?

3 - Do you mean locking temporarly the angle? By the use of the engine management or by locking it directly from the head?
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:22 PM   #9
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I chose both and for me the VVti is essentially needed on street where I am not always on the 6k rpm range.
Haha I hit redline pretty much every time I drive the yaris.
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:45 PM   #10
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I just wish the F1 technology that Honda had years ago, with solenoid actuated valves would hurry up and become main stream. No cam shafts, just fully adjustable valve timing and lift, perfectly optimised for all loads and all rpms.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:47 PM   #11
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bummer. hope you get your new class soon.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:56 PM   #12
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bummer. hope you get your new class soon.
The class change I have been pulling for is for autocrossing, nothing to do with our road race classing. Neither allow a "modern" car to change intake/TB. The current OE stuff is so much better than what cars had even ten years ago that you could not make the cars perform equally. Its one less than to worry $$$$ about.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:26 PM   #13
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Ok here is one pic. go to my engine build under forced induction for the rest.

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Old 11-30-2010, 12:24 PM   #14
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Ok here is one pic. go to my engine build under forced induction for the rest.

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Trying to overcompensate a little? Is the NX really necessary with the FI?

As long as you are going all out, why don't you ditch that boat anchor of a battery and pop for one of the new Braille lithium-ion units.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:51 PM   #15
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he's sponsored, by NX amongst others.
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Old 12-01-2010, 04:18 PM   #16
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Not as shiny as Aras', but I got the CAI back in, and just got done installing the NST underdrive set. Next is Gude TB, as soon as I get it back from Gude.

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Old 12-01-2010, 05:14 PM   #17
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AT least it's a clean set-up.

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Old 12-01-2010, 08:40 PM   #18
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Thanks, but I need a wire tuck like WHOA.
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