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Old 08-09-2017, 09:07 PM   #1
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I saw a well taken care of, properly-equipped (proper alloy size, tires, etc.) late-model Toyota Matrix S today while driving home from work, and damn if it still isn't one of the best 'adult' looking cars on the road. Perfect proportions, elegant taillight design, etc. Toyota (& everyone else) just doesn't make good looking, yet unobtrusive cars like this any more.


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Old 08-10-2017, 01:30 AM   #2
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I saw a well taken care of, properly-equipped (proper alloy size, tires, etc.) late-model Toyota Matrix S today while driving home from work, and damn if it still isn't one of the best 'adult' looking cars on the road. Perfect proportions, elegant taillight design, etc. Toyota (& everyone else) just doesn't make good looking, yet unobtrusive cars like this any more.


I like the looks of the Matrix too, although I prefer the 1st gen over the 2nd. While with it's Vibe counterpart I prefer the 2nd gen Vibe over the 1st as far as looks go.

BTW I have an aunt who owned a 1st gen Vibe, super reliable for well over 200K miles.
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:27 AM   #3
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Discovered that my new Buick Encore is actually a German car (Opel Mokka) assembled in South Korea.

So, I guess this review comparing the Buick Encore to the BMW X1 is understandable.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bmw-x...y-10000-less-1
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Old 08-10-2017, 07:17 PM   #4
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:59 PM   #5
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isn't badge engineering fun? :p
Yes, you can never be quite sure what you're buying these days. In this case, an American car company selling a rebadged German car built in South Korea. LOL.
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:49 PM   #6
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Old 08-14-2017, 01:36 PM   #7
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Wow; that last pic next to the Yaris is telling. I didn't realize it was that small. Standing alone, as an SUV, you assume it's got some size to it. Seeing it next to the Yaris really puts it into perspective. I think it's a very handsome vehicle. I especially like the front end design.
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^^^ Yes. It's not a big car. I actually like the styling very much; nice flowing lines that make sense, and nothing too edgy or radical.

I compared my 2 cars:

2014 Toyota Yaris (LE) / 2017 Buick Encore (Preferred edition)

Curb weight: 2315 / 3237

Length: 153.5 / 168.4

Height: 59.4 / 65.3

Wheel Base: 98.8 / 100.6

Width: 66.7 / 69.9

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Clearance: 5.5 / 6.2

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Capacity: 15.6 / 18.8

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Circle: 30.8 (SE 36.7) / 36.7
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^^^ Yes. It's not a big car. I actually like the styling very much; nice flowing lines that make sense, and nothing too edgy or radical.

I compared my 2 cars:

2014 Toyota Yaris (LE) / 2017 Buick Encore (Preferred edition)

Curb weight: 2315 / 3237

Length: 153.5 / 168.4

Height: 59.4 / 65.3

Wheel Base: 98.8 / 100.6

Width: 66.7 / 69.9

Ground
Clearance: 5.5 / 6.2

Cargo
Capacity: 15.6 / 18.8

Turning
Circle: 30.8 (SE 36.7) / 36.7
Somewhat of an optical illusion, as smartphone cameras tend to distort/stretch towards the edges I've noticed. Your Yaris looks noticeably wider than the Encore, even though it's 3 inches narrower.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:46 PM   #10
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Somewhat of an optical illusion, as smartphone cameras tend to distort/stretch towards the edges I've noticed. Your Yaris looks noticeably wider than the Encore, even though it's 3 inches narrower.
Indeed. The Yaris looks so wide in that photo!
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:26 PM   #11
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So interesting; not as much between them when you consider one is a sub-compact and the other an SUV --especially when looking at the wheel base and width.
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as a cacti guy myself i say ...

nice cactus garden
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:19 AM   #13
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as a cacti guy myself i say ...

nice cactus garden
Thanks, mate. It's a work in progress.
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heres our 2013 in 2014 off i10 in az

cacti and roadtrips the best of both worlds




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Old 09-04-2017, 04:11 PM   #15
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^^^ Great colour. Actually, this Buick (I can't believe I'm saying this) is my new favourite car!

I love the desert. A special kind of peace when you're out there.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:13 PM   #17
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^^^ Great colour. Actually, this Buick (I can't believe I'm saying this) is my new favourite car!

I love the desert. A special kind of peace when you're out there.
I think that the Buick Encore would be a great vehicle to lease for 2-3 years, but I wouldn't want to chance long-term ownership with it. At least it doesn't have a CVT transmission (I think). The more I read about CVT's, the more I am turned off by their seemingly random Russian-Roulette reliability factor. That really limits my car choices if I want to pick up another vehicle that is automatic in a few years. At this rate, I will be hunting down a low-mileage 2017 Yaris SE automatic in 2019-2020 - and then I will have two of the same generation Yari (of different colors at least, hopefully).

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I think that the Buick Encore would be a great vehicle to lease for 2-3 years, but I wouldn't want to chance long-term ownership with it.
Parkers, a trusted UK resource for automotive review, states that "Vauxhaul's (Mokka/Encore) reputation for reliability in the UK is solid if not entirely faultless".

Plus, the standard Buick warranty is really very good.

2017 Buick Warranty:
Basic warranty: 48 months/50,000miles
Corrosion perforation warranty: 72 months/unlimited distance
Maintenance warranty: 24 months/24,000miles
Powertrain warranty: 72 months/70,000miles
Roadside assistance coverage: 72 months/70,000miles

Compare the 2017 Toyota Warranty:
Basic warranty: 36 months/36,000miles
Corrosion perforation warranty: 60 months/unlimited distance
Maintenance warranty: 24 months/25,000miles
Powertrain warranty: 60 months/60,000miles
Roadside assistance coverage: 24 months/unlimited distance

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