New subcompacts for 2009, 2010

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by kargoboy

I am not knocking Hondas, they are a very good car, but
here's just one comparative description that strikes me as the typical Honda bias:

The Yaris gets "decent mileage" - 35 mpg highway
but the Fit has "great fuel economy" - 35 mpg highway

LOL.

Lies. OBVIOUSLY 35 is more than 35, what kind of math did YOU learn?

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by kargoboy

I am not knocking Hondas, they are a very good car, but
here's just one comparative description that strikes me as the typical Honda bias:

The Yaris gets "decent mileage" - 35 mpg highway
but the Fit has "great fuel economy" - 35 mpg highway

LOL.

Okay, so maybe "decent" and "great" aren't necessarily the same. Jeez -- everyone's a proofreader.

[kargoboy]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Okay, so maybe "decent" and "great" aren't necessarily the same. Jeez -- everyone's a proofreader.

Hehe, that's why we're here, you're welcome.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Okay, so maybe "decent" and "great" aren't necessarily the same. Jeez -- everyone's a proofreader.

There is a sense amongst some of us here that Hondas get an unfair shake in the press. Consumer Reports glows about them, and as a result the rest of the "automotive press" seems to follow suit.

When you examine some of the essential points of comparison the two cars are not that much different... except the luggage space.

2009 models, 5 speed manual

Honda Fit Toyota Yaris Percent to Yaris

City 27 29 6.9%

Highway 33 35 5.7%

Combined 29 31 6.4%

(mpg)
EPA pollution regs are identifical between the two

"Greenhouse 6.34 5.94 -6.7%
Gasses"

(tons/year)

Passenger 90.813 84.16 -7.9%
Volume

Luggage 20.644 12.769 -62%

Cubic
feet
Volume

source http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/Index.do

Gene

[ChinoCharles]

It is also notable that our members tend to report numbers much better than the claimed 35 MPG.

[bdc87]

I like the looks of the new fiesta, but the IQ is what I'm anticipating the most.