Oil 5000 miles +

[TheSilkySmooth]

I think most oil analysis would show the oil is used up by 6000 - 7000 miles in typical mixed driving with trips over 15 mi one way. The oil will be Most likely out of spec for viscosity and the anti wear agents and anti acid chemicals are all gone. 5W-30 API SM synthetic oil is NOT ACEA A3/B3 and will not meet BMW long life stds because it is not synthetic like the europen oil are required to be - none of this phony synth marketing nonsense as is allowed in the States. at 67K miles, my wifes toyota 2azfe 2.4L engine is trash following the toyota guidelines using the specified mineral oils (typ valvoline conventional and mobil 5000). We are currently looking to trade it on a Subaru forester or mitsu outlander or similar - oh and the water pump is leaking too Great. Thanks Toyota and ILSAC! I though I could do better than a suzuki Vitara by spending a few thousand more, but I guess NOT. A very bitter Papa

[gid]

warranty , warranty , warranty , warranty , .................................................. .................................................. ................................ . . THE END ?

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by gid

warranty , warranty , warranty , warranty , .................................................. .................................................. ................................ . . THE END ?

You don't have to write down every time you change the oil but I will tell you that, by changing the oil as often as possible, it can only be GOOD for the car. The only wasteful part of this that I can see is the utilization of new filters all of the time. The oil is recycled at my local transfer station so...it's not being poured into the ground. It's being recycled. Nothing is more critical to a motor than CLEAN motor oil, period! I have never heard of a warranty claim denied due to TOO frequent an oil change schedule.

[Yawesh]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

You don't have to write down every time you change the oil but I will tell you that, by changing the oil as often as possible, it can only be GOOD for the car. The only wasteful part of this that I can see is the utilization of new filters all of the time. The oil is recycled at my local transfer station so...it's not being poured into the ground. It's being recycled. Nothing is more critical to a motor than CLEAN motor oil, period! I have never heard of a warranty claim denied due to TOO frequent an oil change schedule.

i too, would rather change my oil at right intervals than rely on those bumbling people at stealerships if i need to excise my warranty

i guess many here don't agree with us - had good experience with stealerships

[gid]

Originally Posted by Yawesh

i too, would rather change my oil at right intervals than rely on those bumbling people at stealerships if i need to excise my warranty

i guess many here don't agree with us - had good experience with stealerships

+1 , reason why do it at home . Cheaper too . 3 and 1/2 quarts fills to or bit below the FULL mark . Have had dealer / private service centers overfill by a quart or no oil at all ( did change filter , forgot the oil ) . .

[Yawesh]

Originally Posted by gid

+1 , reason why do it at home . Cheaper too . 3 and 1/2 quarts fills to or bit below the FULL mark . Have had dealer / private service centers overfill by a quart or no oil at all ( did change filter , forgot the oil ) . .

i too had that experience, no more - i am changing the oil myself now. they overfilled it(they placed four quarts in with out thinking about the .5 oil possibly in there - or they didn't change the filter)

Royal Purple!

and yup gotta keep those receipts.

[ChinoCharles]

Welp, I'm sitting at 45,000 miles. Chances I'll even have to use the warranty on the Yaris are looking slim, it's f'n freezing outside, and guess what? I'm at 6,500 miles on this oil change. Granted I use Royal Purple, but guess what... my car hasn't exploded! If I wasn't broke I'd gladly snag some oil at 7,500-10,000 miles and send it off for analysis, but I am broke so there goes that.

YW rule #42: If Loren says its fine, its probably fine.

[ChinoCharles]

I hope you DIY guys are saving receipts and putting them in the warranty book. I don't think the act of saying you changed every X,000 miles is enough to keep you within warranty, and if you take a car in with an engine problem and have no proof of oil changes it could be a long day.

[andries]

My Yaris gets oil chance every 9000 miles (15000 km) or once a year when you drive less. Thats what the manual says.
And her in Netherlands the Toyota dealers use 10w40 oil for the engine.

[gid]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I hope you DIY guys are saving receipts and putting them in the warranty book. I don't think the act of saying you changed every X,000 miles is enough to keep you within warranty, and if you take a car in with an engine problem and have no proof of oil changes it could be a long day.

all receipts are on file .

[HTM Yaris]

I've just changed my oil @ 10 K for the second time using Amsoil 5-30 . The oil was pretty darn clean . I will go the full 15 K that Amsoil suggest for this next interval .

[fearturtle44]

The reason we are geared for 3000 because the outfits like Jiffy Lube and the Dealers brainwash us with those reminder stickers for 3000 (as more changes means more $$$$). My rule of thumb is:

a. if you do 90%/10% in town driving to highway, then 3000
b. if you do 50/50 type driving, then 4000
c. if you do 90%/10% highway driving to in town, then 5000

Oil is a cheap way of maintaining a car to last 100,000 plus miles.

Kevin

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by fearturtle44

The reason we are geared for 3000 because the outfits like Jiffy Lube and the Dealers brainwash us with those reminder stickers for 3000 (as more changes means more $$$$).

That's BS. The 3-5K mile deal has been around LONG before lube shops and most motors outside of auto's are scheduled on run time(hours).

[ulmaitre]

Just a brief point: it is only a myth that Mobil 1 and other oils are not true synthetics. I called Mobil 1, and read their official stockholders' report, and they explicitly state that Mobil 1 is a true synthetic from synthetic stock, and not a cracked natural oil.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Originally Posted by ulmaitre

Just a brief point: it is only a myth that Mobil 1 and other oils are not true synthetics. I called Mobil 1, and read their official stockholders' report, and they explicitly state that Mobil 1 is a true synthetic from synthetic stock, and not a cracked natural oil.

There is no SAE/API/ILSAC definition for "chemist handbook defined" synthetic anymore - its been removed from the books. Show us a Mobil document that shows the base stock chemistry of mobil one 5W-30, otherwize its a BS and hogwash and misinformation. Guys/gals, another path to the truth: Look at the spec on the oil, available on manufacturers webpage; if the pour point is not below -45deg C AND a Flash point above 250 deg C, then its not homogeneous pure synth basestock, just a blend. Oh, forgot, Mobil 5W-30 doesnt meet its specs - so I guess ANYTHING they say is BS. Like blaming the Hurricane on the lack of Mobil oil on the shelf - when the real reason we can suppose is a "silent recall".
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the bro

[PetersRedYaris]

My 1999 Tacoma (2.7L) said directly in the manual, 7500 miles or 5000 miles for harsh driving conditions. So even Toyota has/or had some models with higher mileage intervals...

[talnlnky]

running synth... change ever 4500-5000 just for the waranty issues. Once my waranty is up (80,000miles) i'll change the filter ever 3k-5k, and the oil every 10k (synth oil still).

I ran my 97 mazda 626 on 4k intervals on dino oil and never had a problem... put 90,000 miles on it in 5.5 years.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

running synth... change ever 4500-5000 just for the waranty issues. Once my waranty is up (80,000miles) i'll change the filter ever 3k-5k, and the oil every 10k (synth oil still).

I ran my 97 mazda 626 on 4k intervals on dino oil and never had a problem... put 90,000 miles on it in 5.5 years.

There is no real way of checking what your oil change interval is at.