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MGargano · 08-21-2009, 10:22 AM

From what I see, it looks there are two wiring harness included. One for standard window operation, and the other for interfacing with the alarm system (if equipped).

MGargano · 08-21-2009, 10:32 AM

Ordered. CTScott you were definitely right about how addicting it is to abuse your car's electrical system. Now I'll have something to tinker with while you figure out what's wrong with my OC ECU.

CTScott · 08-21-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MGargano

Ordered. CTScott you were definitely right about how addicting it is to abuse your car's electrical system. Now I'll have something to tinker with while you figure out what's wrong with my OC ECU.

Nice! That's why I would never lease a vehicle. There is no way I could prevent myself from monkeying with the electrical system.

MGargano · 08-21-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CTScott

Nice! That's why I would never lease a vehicle. There is no way I could prevent myself from monkeying with the electrical system.

I've always been more into the mechanical stuff, but I'm starting to really get into the electrical side with this car. Any chance you've figured out the push-button start? I think that's my next project after seeing echo's thread.

CTScott · 08-21-2009, 11:36 AM

Push button start would be fairly easy to do. To really do it right would require a bunch of parts from one of the markets where it is available.

The problem is that for our USDM cars you would still need to stick the key in to unlock the steering. You could mechanically bypass the steering lock, but then you make your car a whole lot easier to steal. Also, the OEM system uses an RFID smart card (along the same lines as the key transponder). You'd really want to implement something like that to make the car less grabbable as well.

MGargano · 08-21-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CTScott

Push button start would be fairly easy to do. To really do it right would require a bunch of parts from one of the markets where it is available.

The problem is that for our USDM cars you would still need to stick the key in to unlock the steering. You could mechanically bypass the steering lock, but then you make your car a whole lot easier to steal. Also, the OEM system uses an RFID smart card (along the same lines as the key transponder). You'd really want to implement something like that to make the car less grabbable as well.

Hmm it looks like I might table this idea for a while then, at least until I get the SRS and now the windows completed.

Seems kinda silly to have push-button start if I still have to use the key to unlock the steering. And I'd hate to make my car more vulnerable to theft.

PatrickJohnson · 08-21-2009, 01:44 PM

couldn't you get something like what the maximas do now, where you have a proxy chip on the key so that you can push button start it as long as the key is in the car (like in your pocket)?

CTScott · 08-21-2009, 01:55 PM

Yes, that's the RFID device. That requires an RFID tag and some type of reader.

MGargano · 08-21-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CTScott

Yes, that's the RFID device. That requires an RFID tag and some type of reader.

How readily available are these RFID devices and readers?

CTScott · 08-21-2009, 02:11 PM

Readily available. They are used in everything from the automated toll tags to ID badges to anti-theft devices in stores. The tags are typically very inexpensive (under $1 for passive tags). Readers can range from as cheap as $25 to $3000+.

Radioshack actually sells a development kit for $49 that includes a reader and two button tags.

MGargano · 08-21-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CTScott

Radioshack actually sells a development kit for $49 that includes a reader and two button tags.

I would definitely need your expertise with this, but if it's something I can get my hands on easily, I might have to go for it.

Qmobile · 08-21-2009, 08:12 PM

I know newer Vettes have no key what so ever all you have is a key fob that unlocks the doors, steering and they have push buton start. That I think be cool on a yaris

MGargano · 08-22-2009, 01:22 AM

BTW, I apologize for completely jacking this thread

ezhacker1 · 08-24-2009, 02:56 PM

the 09 Rav4 i rented has auto up/down drivers window. I actually got annoyed with it trying to only open the window a crack to vent the LA heat. I looked like an idiot rolling the windows up and down trying to figure it out.

d.one · 08-28-2009, 05:11 PM

BEST thing is adding the DEI 530T (given that you have a Directed alarm).

spookz · 08-28-2009, 09:06 PM

We have a Corolla here at home that has auto up and down on all four windows. So it's not just the JDM that gets power windows with the auto up.

MGargano · 09-20-2009, 12:23 PM

In case anyone's interested, CTScott put together a wiring diagram for the DEI 530T. I just installed it and it works perfectly.

The Yaris is a "Type A" system, so set switch 5 to the OFF poistion.

For the Resistance setting, use the following: SW1-OFF, SW2-ON, SW3-ON, SW4-ON, SW5-OFF

Install instructions .PDF are attached

Lafiro · 09-20-2009, 11:31 PM

I would really like to have full down and UP for drivers and passenger side windows. This would be awesome. Just don't have a Directed alarm...

08-21-2009, 08:12 PM	#12
Qmobile that's right I went there View User's Garage Drives: '08 Blazin' Blue,'10 Dark Red Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hoytville, ohio Posts: 800	I know newer Vettes have no key what so ever all you have is a key fob that unlocks the doors, steering and they have push buton start. That I think be cool on a yaris __________________ Mods: 15" SSC rims, TRD Exhaust, TRD Sway bar, TRD oil filler, TRD rad. cap, TYC tails, Debadged, Painted engine cover, Stock spoiler, Stock mud gaurds, OBX pedals. suggestions always welcome

08-24-2009, 02:56 PM	#14
ezhacker1 Drives: Decepticon - Ravage Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,464	the 09 Rav4 i rented has auto up/down drivers window. I actually got annoyed with it trying to only open the window a crack to vent the LA heat. I looked like an idiot rolling the windows up and down trying to figure it out. __________________ Check out my Build thread: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52274

08-28-2009, 09:06 PM	#16
spookz JDM yO! View User's Garage Drives: '09 3dr. 5-spd Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 331	We have a Corolla here at home that has auto up and down on all four windows. So it's not just the JDM that gets power windows with the auto up. __________________ .

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MGargano Drives: 2009 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 792	From what I see, it looks there are two wiring harness included. One for standard window operation, and the other for interfacing with the alarm system (if equipped).

08-21-2009, 10:32 AM	#2
MGargano Drives: 2009 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 792	Ordered. CTScott you were definitely right about how addicting it is to abuse your car's electrical system. Now I'll have something to tinker with while you figure out what's wrong with my OC ECU.

08-21-2009, 11:36 AM	#5
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	Push button start would be fairly easy to do. To really do it right would require a bunch of parts from one of the markets where it is available. The problem is that for our USDM cars you would still need to stick the key in to unlock the steering. You could mechanically bypass the steering lock, but then you make your car a whole lot easier to steal. Also, the OEM system uses an RFID smart card (along the same lines as the key transponder). You'd really want to implement something like that to make the car less grabbable as well.

08-21-2009, 01:44 PM	#7
PatrickJohnson Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 198	couldn't you get something like what the maximas do now, where you have a proxy chip on the key so that you can push button start it as long as the key is in the car (like in your pocket)?

08-21-2009, 01:55 PM	#8
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	Yes, that's the RFID device. That requires an RFID tag and some type of reader.

08-21-2009, 02:11 PM	#10
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	Readily available. They are used in everything from the automated toll tags to ID badges to anti-theft devices in stores. The tags are typically very inexpensive (under $1 for passive tags). Readers can range from as cheap as $25 to $3000+. Radioshack actually sells a development kit for $49 that includes a reader and two button tags.

08-22-2009, 01:22 AM	#13
MGargano Drives: 2009 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 792	BTW, I apologize for completely jacking this thread

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d.one View User's Garage Drives: wht [s] Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 14	BEST thing is adding the DEI 530T (given that you have a Directed alarm).

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Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	I would really like to have full down and UP for drivers and passenger side windows. This would be awesome. Just don't have a Directed alarm...