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Old 06-15-2009, 12:37 PM   #1
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we still dont know who make the best synthetic oil out there.. company using additives and issues with detergents...
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:42 PM   #2
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I've switched both my Yaris and my Fit to Valvoline Synthetic. It seems to be good oil. My brother told me it looks to be more clear than Mobil-1. It says every 4000 miles! That's way too soon for synthetic oil. 3000 miles with a 1000 mile grace period. Hmm... no thanks. I doubt that if you are using any synthetic oil and change it at mfg. recommended intervals, you will have any internal engine problems anyway due to the oil failure. I'm going to continue using Valvoline Synthetic, but I won't sign up for this warranty.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:08 PM   #3
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“Qualifying Vehicles” excludes: a) leased vehicles, b) vehicles used for competitive or agricultural purposes, c) vehicles where the engine has been modified with equipment or parts that are not factory original parts or equipment, d) vehicles that have been modified with non-factory equipment or accessories (e.g., snow plow attachment, etc.),

c) and d) excludes 90% of yaris world.



Receipts must be printed (not hand written) and specify clearly and unambiguously the following information: use of Valvoline oil for the oil change, and the type of oil used (e.g., premium conventional, Durablend, SynPower, etc.), viscosity of Valvoline oil used, and oil filter used.

Most modern receipts fade with time and I don't think any receipt for oil that I bought had oil type, viscosity, brand, and EVERYTHING listed on it.



The Qualifying Vehicle engine must be serviced exclusively with the vehicle manufacturer’s required viscosity grade

I'd check into this one. I don't know if 5w20 is considered "recommended" or "allowable"
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:39 PM   #4
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The engine guarantee covers ANY repairs, not just one's caused by oil failure. That is what Quaker State and Pennzoil offer. Totally useless since oil never fails causing engine damage. Parts fail, that is what the Valvoline Engine Guarantee covers. It is free, no cost involved and the place I get my oil changed at has everything plainly stated on their receipts. There is not a product or service out there for everybody, so to each his own. You must do what you are comfortable with.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:33 PM   #5
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Amsoil also recomends changing the filter at Toyota intervals
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:33 AM   #6
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I'll check on the filter recommendations with Amsoil tech when I get back home in a couple days.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:42 AM   #7
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I'll check on the filter recommendations with Amsoil tech when I get back home in a couple days.
I think what they like to see is a regular WIX filter for the XL series oil, filter good for 7,500 miles, and the Ea filters (made by WIX) are guaranteed for 25,000 miles, or one year.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:54 PM   #8
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hmmm tempting offer... but I plan to go to the group V synthetic oils someday and run 10 or maybe even 15k, with filter changes every 3-5k. I go aprox 4800miles per change on group III/IV oils right now.

I have no doubts the engine will last 300k.... its everything else i'm worried about.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:52 PM   #9
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Ok so if you go on averages here... Average mileage put on a car a year is 12k right? At that rate it would take 25 years to hit 300k. If you buy the Ea filter from AMS oil at $16 each from Lazerdot's site trulube.com thats 16 filter for a total of $400 dollars in filters and if you were to buy the WIX filters at $9 (sorry rounded up) you would need to buy 40 for a total of $360 over that 300k mark. If you bought the Signature Series once a year from Lazerdot that would come to $42 a year in oil and $1050 through the 300k "goal". Average quick lubes about $45 for a synthetic oil change. You would have to do 3 of those a year for Valvolines guarantee so that's $135 a year in oil changes and for a grand total of $3375 through out the guarantee. So IMHO $1450 is better than paying $3375. I could find a better way to spend that extra $1900.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:10 PM   #10
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Ashland ( Valvoline) is up for sale. Who knows if the new ownership will honour the warranty. My cars are usually used up by 50K (trans) so it so doesnt matter to me. BTW I'm running Valvoline 10w-30 synpower and it is the worst oil Ive had in there by far. Gas milage is down 4 mpg 38>34, and power and drivability is bad. maybe shoulda gone with the 5w-30. Anyway synpower is not a synthetic oil, just grp-III. Exxon M1 AFE going in next which is a semi synth at best also, but I expect good things from it.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:51 AM   #11
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O'Reilly's has SynPower (5w20, 5w30, 10w30) on sale for $3.99
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