Bogus Lawsuit CostsToyota 1 Billion $

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

As a motorcyclist I want every single one of those other people sharing the road with me driving cars to have boxes up their ying yang. The more boxes and camera the better! Ive past the point where I could do something to kill myself on a mc. Its far more likely someone driving a car will do it for me. If it happens.

When cheapo video cameras came out I had one on my bike. Theres a video of me on utube almost getting killed by a white Tuarus making a left hand turn from the right hand lane.

I saw it coming. Dingbat was just sitting there in the right lane no brake lights no turn signals not moving. I have a rule. If they do one stupid thing they will do another stupid thing! Or three or four of them!

^^^^^ Your post provides the impetus for serious questions...Why is it so easy to get a DL in the U.S.? If we had the rigor in any state that they do in Germany re preparing a person to drive legally, would your Taurus driver or anyone else that lacking be able to get a DL?

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

^^^^^ Your post provides the impetus for serious questions...Why is it so easy to get a DL in the U.S.? If we had the rigor in any state that they do in Germany re preparing a person to drive legally, would your Taurus driver or anyone else that lacking be able to get a DL?

Well when you consider we are 16 trillion in debt and counting up fast there you might have your answer.

Im thinking the Germans arent in debt one farthing.

We just arent responsible as a nation.

Its all Seseme Streets fault!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Well when you consider we are 16 trillion in debt and counting up fast there you might have your answer.

Im thinking the Germans arent in debt one farthing.

We just arent responsible as a nation.

Its all Seseme Streets fault!

Yeah, I guess addressing the skill level of the populace re driving might be considered fiddling while Rome burns to many given all of the other problems we have as a country. IMO, one of our biggest problems is that we have many politicians who care more about their own selfish agendas than about the country. One of my best friends is a native U.S. citizen who went to medical school in Sweden. He now practices primarily in Sweden, and he told me that in the U.S., drug companies sponsor seminars/junkets/trips (whatever best describes the event) to aid physicians re learning all about the drugs. He said that despite what cynics might think, that this is really helpful. He said that in Sweden, the government is so worried that the drug companies might exert improper influence on the physicians, that the system the U.S. enjoys is pretty much not allowed. He said it's good that the government cares so much about potential corruption, but that it does make it harder on the doctors to obtain all potential tools that could be at their disposal', so to speak. Can you imagine where we'd be if the U.S. government cared that much about potential conflicts of interest!....step..step..step.....okay, now off soapbox

[tk1971]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

^^^^^ Your post provides the impetus for serious questions...Why is it so easy to get a DL in the U.S.? If we had the rigor in any state that they do in Germany re preparing a person to drive legally, would your Taurus driver or anyone else that lacking be able to get a DL?

When I went to the DMV for my motorcycle endorsement (M1) test, the DMV person said that since I've been renewing my driver's license by mail all this time, they might as well make me take both the M/C and Class C (car) tests.

So... I took both tests. I passed both, but I didn't study for the driver's test. The last time I took the driver's test was when I was 16 years old. Some of the stats/figures are different between then and now.

As easy as I thought it was, I witnessed the test grader tell a fair amount of people there that they can re-take the test in a week.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by tk1971

When I went to the DMV for my motorcycle endorsement (M1) test, the DMV person said that since I've been renewing my driver's license by mail all this time, they might as well make me take both the M/C and Class C (car) tests.

So... I took both tests. I passed both, but I didn't study for the driver's test. The last time I took the driver's test was when I was 16 years old. Some of the stats/figures are different between then and now.

As easy as I thought it was, I witnessed the test grader tell a fair amount of people there that they can re-take the test in a week.

That is quite sad. I recall a fair number of past trips to the DMV in California for registration changes, and people would have friends quizzing them prior to taking the exam. Left me internally shaking my head more than once. I don't imagine Texas is appreciably better in this regard.

[UberSilver]

Originally Posted by bronsin

This is the same BS that cost Audi billions of dollars and its share of the US market in the early 90s. Now its happening to Toyota.

Its not possible for a FI engine to "accelerate all by itself" yet somehow its going to cost Toyota a billion dollars!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...est=latestnews

It's no coincidence that Toyota pass GM in world sales(for the first time in 75 years), just months before the "accelerate all by itself" BS.

Ford is the only American car maker thats improved auto quality and design. The other two just sling mud(mostly GM).

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by UberSilver

It's no coincidence that Toyota pass GM in world sales(for the first time in 75 years), just months before the "accelerate all by itself" BS.

Ford is the only American car maker thats improved auto quality and design. The other two just sling mud(mostly GM).

........sling mud and take bailouts that give equity that belongs to the bondholders to the UAW/menbers . (couldn't resist )

[DebbyM46227]

Originally Posted by UberSilver

It's no coincidence that Toyota pass GM in world sales(for the first time in 75 years), just months before the "accelerate all by itself" BS.

No one will ever talk me out of the idea that "O" our Prez and his cronies were somehow behind the Toyota "problem" solely to knock Toyota from #1.

[bobolinko]

Originally Posted by bronsin

This is the same BS that cost Audi billions of dollars and its share of the US market in the early 90s. Now its happening to Toyota.

Its not possible for a FI engine to "accelerate all by itself" yet somehow its going to cost Toyota a billion dollars!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...est=latestnews

I too thought like you, till My Scion XD did the ACCELRATE BY ITSELF thing!
I have a manual so kicked it into neutral, and turned off the power. Upon restarting, it went to FULL THROTTLE, all by itself. I was in a Toyota lot in Hawaii, with a mechanic riding as a passenger. He was there to verify the trans would grind when going from second to third gear. He, along with myself, was blown away. It repeatedly did the same thing till he removed battery cables for a moment, and redid connections on the throttle position sensor. It then went back to normal operation. The condition is not like you think "not possible" I saw PROOF that it happens. Scary as it is, it is for real! It also was not the floor rugs causing the problem.

[why?]

just to mention the europeans have actual tests for drivers licenses and we don't.

The reason still is 80% of the country it doesn't matter that much. And while cruel, i have no problem letting dumbasses kill themselves with vehicles alone. So much better than letting them hurt others through their stupidity.

I do think certain urban areas should actually have harder drivers license tests, but if the only way you can legitimately get anywhere is a car, then the license tests cannot be impossible or absurdly expensive, like they are in europe. There, driving really is unnecessary. Here, in the majority of cases, it is basically mandatory.