where's the performance products?

[YarisTom73]

My own girlfriend, who exclaimed to me that she doesn't see the Yaris as a "tuner car", and drives a 93 Probe herself, didn't aggravate me nearly as much as motivate me to prove her wrong. Those of us who love our pocket rockets can only be bolstered by the taunts of those outside our circle. Just express yourself for yourself, not to be "representing" something because everyone else does it!

[NonStopTuning]

Thank you for the kind words Nutzoids.

[Nutzoids]

Originally Posted by NonStopTuning

Thank you for the kind words Nutzoids.

Thank you for all your Aftermarket Support! (and great prices)

[churp]

Originally Posted by punch

cars been out over a year now in north america, we have 1 company making a turbo, and a blitz supercharger adding 40hp , so wheres the aftermarket????

I'm already bored with my car, and ready to sell it for a gas guzzlin jeep

No offense to aftermarket--we need em, but the fun isn't bolting every trinket on your car thats available. The aftermarket can provide lots of items, and usually for less than you can build yourself, but all you end up with is variations of everyone elses car.....might as well buy a car that already fills the bill if you can't find the aftermarket items you think you need. Sort of like getting married.....don't marry the purty one thinking you can change her, find the one you can live with...it's cheaper.

[Nutzoids]

Originally Posted by churp

Sort of like getting married.....don't marry the purty one thinking you can change her, find the one you can live with...it's cheaper.

hahahahaha

[punch]

I think I'll stick around for awhile, I still have stereo mods to do, and rims, and a trd sway bar sitting in my garage,I think I'll work the suspension and hope for more turbo options in the future, thanks ....

[Motorhead6T5]

If you wanted performance you probably shouldn't have bought an automatic. Granted they end up woking great once you get into big power levels but nothing you are gonna see come from a 1.5L yaris.

I bought a 05 stang in jan 05,that car had decent aftermarket support relitively soon after its release,but it was a lot of the same thing,10 types of cold air intakes,only a few springs available,underdrive pulleys,exhaust,crappy headers that made no power or way over priced ones that do,the only real head start is the handheld tuners made for those cars. Thats the brick wall the yaris is at now,till we can tweak the ecu for a fair price,you aren't gonna see too much come out for this car that will actualy have a decent effect on power.

I was pleasently surprised with how much is out for this car considering its non performance based and only been out for a year in the US. I garuntee Japan has an crapload of parts out already for the vitz/yaris and will very soon for the belta/yaris. Getting them over here is another deal though,that relys on public interest.

[yrsdrgn]

the only parts for autos to talk about is maybe just lowering or suspension components and muffler LOL engine performance = no point for autos....and i have one LOL o well.

[Nutzoids]

Originally Posted by yrsdrgn

the only parts for autos to talk about is maybe just lowering or suspension components and muffler LOL engine performance = no point for autos....and i have one LOL o well.

[lostmind]

I know a guy that's driven an automatic turbo'd protege5 for years with no problems and no complaints. It's stinky fast too, killed wrx's.

Just thought I'd toss that out for fun.

I mean, it's quite obvious you can't really properly drive the yaris in automatic (I _ALWAYS_ catch myself trying to downshift)... but you could definitely pull more power outta it. Just gotta sit tight and wait for the aftermarket to mature a bit. Let the bleeding edge types spend their money and find out what works and what doesn't... :)

[churp]

Performance is pretty relative.....a 1.5 l Yaris is just that. Can't tell me all the mods that are available don't help the auto any less than the manual! And can't tell me the auto doesn't outperform the manuals in some instances, and vice versa....it's a matter of preference. Everyone can be a Walter Mitty, just not everyone knows how (or will ever be able) to use the manual better than auto.....fun factor isn't always the same as performance. My daughters swear by their MR2 5 speeds....myself I'd like to try the Spyder's paddle shifter.

Heck for $4,000 more than my Yaris....I would have bought a spyder/hitch/trailer and would have gas money for a year, probably better performance than a supercharged Yarii, and been able to carry more crap around.

[ChinoCharles]

Fun fact... C-ONE has 30+ products alone.

We'll catch up on this side of the pond. Mark my words!

[punch]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Fun fact... C-ONE has 30+ products alone.

We'll catch up on this side of the pond. Mark my words!

chino, 30 + products, and from what I've seen there all suspension related or body parts, I was hoping for turbo options, or superchargers....

[ChinoCharles]

The reason you do not see bolt on turbocharger or supercharger kits made is because this engine cannot handle it! Seals start braking down with that much pressure in the cylinders over time. Have we learned nothing from the Scion crowd?

However, that does not mean all hope is lost for the 1NZ-FE. Don't forget this... we all have one thing and one thing only in common. We may differ in every other way, but we can all agree that as owners of this car we have some emotional investment in fuel economy. We're all sick of paying $50+ for a tank of gas, and now none of us have to! Now, what if someone busted out a solution to the power problem... a reasonably priced kit of parts to turn the 1NZ from an underpowered gas sipper into a reasonably powered occasional drinker. This may not be a supercharger or turbocharger... it may be some different internals, a different block and/or some type of engine management, or some nitrous or whatever. Whatever it takes. It all starts with a teardown of this engine and a pow-wow over the remnants. Until you've done that, you have no clue of this engine's proper solution. You're shooting in the dark.

As soon as you take the 1NZ out of the picture, this is no longer a FE-biased car. I'd rather see someone figure out how to make the 1NZ a little more powerful rather than seeing someone figure out how to bolt a 23 MPG engine into a 40 MPG car. It isn't in line with what this car is really about.

[Nutzoids]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

The reason you do not see bolt on turbocharger or supercharger kits made is because this engine cannot handle it! Seals start braking down with that much pressure in the cylinders over time. Have we learned nothing from the Scion crowd?

However, that does not mean all hope is lost for the 1NZ-FE. Don't forget this... we all have one thing and one thing only in common. We may differ in every other way, but we can all agree that as owners of this car we have some emotional investment in fuel economy. We're all sick of paying $50+ for a tank of gas, and now none of us have to! Now, what if someone busted out a solution to the power problem... a reasonably priced kit of parts to turn the 1NZ from an underpowered gas sipper into a reasonably powered occasional drinker. This may not be a supercharger or turbocharger... it may be some different internals, a different block and/or some type of engine management, or some nitrous or whatever. Whatever it takes. It all starts with a teardown of this engine and a pow-wow over the remnants. Until you've done that, you have no clue of this engine's proper solution. You're shooting in the dark.

As soon as you take the 1NZ out of the picture, this is no longer a FE-biased car. I'd rather see someone figure out how to make the 1NZ a little more powerful rather than seeing someone figure out how to bolt a 23 MPG engine into a 40 MPG car. It isn't in line with what this car is really about.

And just for the record when I said "If you have an Automatic you can't bitch about Performance" I wasn't talking about a Corvette... I was talking about when you walked up to the sales man and said "I would like my Yaris in an Automatic because I want all the Performance I can get from this 106HP beast!"

But of course you took my statement out of context... Maybe you did it so you can sleep better at night thinking that you really are "Street Racer" that your "Need for Speed" makes you feel like you have some power in your pathetic existence of a life?

I can't believe you really tried to compare a Yaris and a Corvette

Loser!

[punch]

Originally Posted by Nutzoids

And just for the record when I said "If you have an Automatic you can't bitch about Performance" I wasn't talking about a Corvette... I was talking about when you walked up to the sales man and said "I would like my Yaris in an Automatic because I want all the Performance I can get from this 106HP beast!"

But of course you took my statement out of context... Maybe you did it so you can sleep better at night thinking that you really are "Street Racer" that your "Need for Speed" makes you feel like you have some power in your pathetic existence of a life?

I can't believe you really tried to compare a Yaris and a Corvette

Loser!

names, very mature....

I never compared the yaris to any car, you posted that an automatic was not a performance oriented , I proved you wrong...and provided examples of a few automatic performance cars. obviously an econobox isn't anything like the cars I listed...

Nope not a street racer , been there done that, grown up since then, I just like owning "sleeper cars"

I personally think I am an "enthusiast", every car I've owned has been hi-powered or modded with goodies, and if this wasn't my daily driver, I would jump at the current offerings that must be tweaked to work properly, my original post was about me venting that after 1 year, we have 1 turbo charger, and 1 supercharger for a different car, wheres the TRD bolt on HP goodies, or plug and play stuff, wheres the competition??

and finally competition is what lowers prices, so if we have 3 companies making a turbo, the prices of the turbo's will go down, until then ZPI can charge a large amount...

[lostmind]

hehe, you guys are too mean to the poor guy. :)

Both sides of the argument are correct... You can drive a standard transmission vehicle so much more aggressively then an auto.

But saying anyone with an auto tranny has no right to bitch about performance is a little off.

Of course, saying the aftermarket sucks for the yaris when it's only been out a year over in North America is a bit silly (and kinda rude to those companies that are pioneering new products)... it's even more silly if you've purchased an auto and _only_ care about performance modifications. I had to buy an auto because my wife drives the yaris and refuses to learn to drive stick. I was quite sad, but the monetary savings of the yaris still made so much sense I had to go ahead and give up my manual tranny...

But having an auto doesn't negate the desire for more performance. The yaris screams for just a few more ponies and a slightly stiffer suspension with a drop. Of course, I first and foremost bought this car for economy and am selling the STi because it doesn't make sense to own so many cars. But I am still keeping an eye out for some performance mods that can yield some power without a giant sacrifice in mileage.

I don't think the original poster should be written off simply because he rides in an auto. If you look at the list of mods available, he is correct in that none of them add any significant power at all.

Myself, I am just lowering my car (TRD shocks and springs) and lightweight rims (debating between 15" and 16"... I want 15" but nothing is in stock and kinda iffy putting heavier 16's on this poor car). Then I'm just going to wait for NST to put out a custom pulley set for the yaris so someone can develop a supercharger kit... then I think I'll get the power craving I desire with the handling to make it fun, without a giant loss in fuel economy.

I guess the OP just doesn't have my patience ;)

[Nutzoids]

Look I understand the need for Automatics and I Understand not EVERYONE knows or wants to learn how to drive a Stick, I also understand that there are plenty of cars out there where the Automatic version of the car is just as good as the Stick...

I am just sick and tired of reading these post where people are just so negative all the time... the "I want more" or the "How come they won't cater to me" posts! and I just open my mouth in hopes to make these people feel just a little bit embarrassed, just to shut them up...

Most of us are here because we are true "Enthusiasts" most of us work with each other and companies to get the most out of our cars, our money, and our time... and threads like this one belittle all the hard work of the College kids, or the computer nerds, or even the accountants, that work hard, when it's not even there job, to make the Yaris the best it can be...

We have some pretty decent parts for our cars, and some pretty good options... Because of the members of THIS web site...

I just don't think post like this are not real encouraging to them!