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ex_MGB · 09-09-2006, 02:06 AM

I'm an old Vdub owner as well. Driven manuals forever. I think its kinda retro cool that Toyota did not put a tach in nor a cruise control.

Truth be told, it's not hard to memorize your speed/gear/rpm relationship. With high rpm fuel cut-off you don't have to worry about blowing the engine.

Back in the day there was a thing called "tuned" exhaust. You knew your engine rpm by the sound of the exhaust. That's when drivers enjoyed the sound and subtle mechanical feedback of their car and a lot of cars didn't have radios.

As for cruise control, a Yaris is not exactly what I'd take on a 700 mile run on an interstate.

dbaxter · 09-09-2006, 01:07 PM

Hate to say folks but they are not going to change this. Its worth a shot but they are not going to put one in, well not unless you pay for it.

Toyota and all makers for some dumb reason do this for manual. Funnier that they put tachs on autos.

I had a 1990 toyota tercel that was a manual without a tach. my poor wife had to learn how to drive a manual without a tach, personally its the best way. You learn how to change gears by ear.

Pars · 09-09-2006, 05:13 PM

Honda used to have their low end model tack-less

But for the last 2 generations of Civic, they've included Tachometer in all their Civics.

Personally, If my 5dr Yaris didn't have a Tachometer, I would now be driving the Honda Fit. Back in 98, I was set on buyinh a Civic DX Coupe, but when I learned that Coupe version didn't have a Tacometer, while the Hatchback version did, I ended up buying the hatchback. (which was an added bonus since the Hatch ended up being much nicer then the coupe).

DonnyRebel · 09-09-2006, 06:23 PM

What the hell are you people thinking???? If you wanted a performance car, you wasted your money big time! Do you actually think most potential buyers care if it has a tachometer or not?

The Yaris is an econo-car.

!!!GET OVER IT!!!!

H2XcapePod · 09-11-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DonnyRebel

What the hell are you people thinking???? If you wanted a performance car, you wasted your money big time! Do you actually think most potential buyers care if it has a tachometer or not?

The Yaris is an econo-car.

!!!GET OVER IT!!!!

I agree whole heartedly! On a side note, my feelings...F the world, environmentally speaking of course. I didn't buy it to be friendly to the planet, the planet should let the weather men look competent at least sometime, they seem like nice enough guys. I'm 24 and I'm just really at odds with the world, I saw 1 yaris lb about 4 months ago and said WTF, it was just so different, like it didn't belong here at this day in age...When I totalled my strat I new I would get a new car. I didn't justwant new, I wanted uber-new, not scene in my zipcode yet new,let me debadge it and keep you guessing new...and hey I can save some money at the pump too...To get back to the point, I just gave my girlfreind her first lessons on a manual today, low and behold without a tach

. I'm sure if her 10minute experienced ass could manage, you bastards that have been driving manuals for years would wouldn't have a problem. We are spoiled, such a great job overall and you people cry like a bunch of 2 year olds. The point of a manual is to put you in control, to become more intimately associated, to become one if you will with the machine. For pete's sake fuck a tach keep your eyes on the road and feel it, enjoy its peppy tossability

...no slicks, rollcage, or helmut came with any "convenience package", and that 10 sec timeslip you have...1/8th mi undoubtedly...
Incase I'm kicked off or flamed, great DIY's Chris and you guys are funny as hell
Peace!

Pars · 09-13-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by H2XcapePod

you people cry like a bunch of 2 year olds. The point of a manual is to put you in control, to become more intimately associated, to become one if you will with the machine. For pete's sake fuck a tach keep your eyes on the road and feel it, enjoy its peppy tossability

...no slicks, rollcage, or helmut came with any "convenience package", and that 10 sec timeslip you have...1/8th mi undoubtedly...
Peace!

Point taken

.

It's just some of the rest of us are a little tehnical with our driving and like to push things to the max. Plus it can help when you're in a sticky situation and need to hold on to the gear as long as possible or trying to squeeze ahead of someone who's trying to box you out. But you're right, when I'm cruising and taking in the sights while enjoying the Zen feeling of my car being connected to the road, reading the tach is not part of that equation.

nsmitchell · 09-18-2006, 01:37 PM

Somewhat off topic...

I had a Honda Civic VX Hatchback. It had a tach, and it would do 111 MPH in 3rd gear (that was in the owners manual)! That was supposed to be an economy car as well, but it was so fun to floor! I once raced my boss in his new Mazda Mellinuim in a light to light. He was pissed when I beat him!

I also had a Civic HX CVT, and this guy at work said he looked at those, but bought the Altima because it was faster. Raced him one day, and we were neck and neck 'til about 45MPH, then the CVT started spanking him. He looked over in utter disbelief and I was LMAO! I also had 3 big guys in my Civic compared to him and one other guy in the Altima. The HX had a tach too, but in a CVT the tach stops moving right at either the torque or HP max, and the CVT does all the work! Very cool tranny!

paultyler_82 · 09-19-2006, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiksman

My Yaris is so quiet and that is the way I want keep it that way. But it is too quiet.

Really? I can hear my engine quite well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsmitchell

Somewhat off topic...

I had a Honda Civic VX Hatchback. It had a tach, and it would do 111 MPH in 3rd gear (that was in the owners manual)! That was supposed to be an economy car as well, but it was so fun to floor! I once raced my boss in his new Mazda Mellinuim in a light to light. He was pissed when I beat him!

I also had a Civic HX CVT, and this guy at work said he looked at those, but bought the Altima because it was faster. Raced him one day, and we were neck and neck 'til about 45MPH, then the CVT started spanking him. He looked over in utter disbelief and I was LMAO! I also had 3 big guys in my Civic compared to him and one other guy in the Altima. The HX had a tach too, but in a CVT the tach stops moving right at either the torque or HP max, and the CVT does all the work! Very cool tranny!

And this is why I want the Nissan Versa SL CVT.

Lucky it wasn't a Altima 3.5... you would have gotten spanked in that case, the VQ V6's are mean, my I30's got a 3.0 and I can stomp V6 mustangs all day... in a luxury sedan.

tiksman · 09-19-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paultyler_82

Really? I can hear my engine quite well.

Remember I came out of a Neon and a Truck both had LOUD exhaust.

I still can only hear the engine at higher speeds. Maybe it's just me.

ToyVitz · 09-20-2006, 04:18 AM

I can see both sides to the story, but if you offer stuff like TRD exhaust, wheels, shift knobs, sport suspension, lowering springs, and a cold air intake... why wouldn't you offer something as simple as a tachometer to complement some of the "performance" options? Let's face it if you're adding these options you probably want a tach to monitor your engine revs. At least offer the US a kit like the Vitz has where you can mount the 3 gauge pods where the drivers glove box is.

My 2 cents!

nsmitchell · 09-29-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paultyler_82

Really? I can hear my engine quite well.

And this is why I want the Nissan Versa SL CVT.

Lucky it wasn't a Altima 3.5... you would have gotten spanked in that case, the VQ V6's are mean, my I30's got a 3.0 and I can stomp V6 mustangs all day... in a luxury sedan.

I just did a little research, the V6 Altima was not an option in 1998. So it was two 4cyls going at it. His was a 5spd. Felt good though. He never mentioned a thing about our race ever again.

Reddington · 09-28-2006, 07:42 PM

http://www.scangauge.com/products/sg2photos/index.shtml

Check this one out. Its an LED display that connects to the OBDII jack and mounts directly into the dash. It can display RPMs, current MPG, etc. The best part that I like about it is that it allows you to see the computer diagnostic codes when there is a problem. All for $169

gonzo452001 · 10-14-2006, 08:48 PM

leaving out the tach saved them a few dollars and they raised the price of the LB another 100.00 its now 11,050 .

paultyler_82 · 10-17-2006, 03:41 AM

kinda reminds me of my old 90 cavalier.... manual everything, no tach, but it even beat the Yaris on non-included options... it didn't have a passenger side outer rear-view mirror! Seriously, that was an OPTION at the time!

SmellyTofu · 10-17-2006, 10:22 PM

If you can't drive a manual without a tacho, then you have serious problems.

The digital dash is overrated. You can have mine if you could take it because I don't think I've ever actually looked at it whilst driving in everyday city driving. The only time I've actually needed it was on a racetrack which accounted for so far <0.005% of the distance I've covered in total this year. Even so, the digital dash is useless except the speedometer part. The tachometer in it increases every 250rpm increments anyway but I think it goes down as the engine speed increases. I don't know what it is exactly. It's really really overrated. If you want one, buy a TRD one that mounts on the front console lid.

09-09-2006, 01:07 PM	#2
dbaxter Evil Kitty Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback A4 AB/Red Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 55	Hate to say folks but they are not going to change this. Its worth a shot but they are not going to put one in, well not unless you pay for it. Toyota and all makers for some dumb reason do this for manual. Funnier that they put tachs on autos. I had a 1990 toyota tercel that was a manual without a tach. my poor wife had to learn how to drive a manual without a tach, personally its the best way. You learn how to change gears by ear. __________________ 07 Yaris A4 Absolute Red: No mods "YET" 04 GTO www.purplegto.com 01 Camaro SS Convertible SLP#1331 http://www.2001CamaroSS.com

09-09-2006, 06:23 PM	#4
DonnyRebel 1st Time Toyota Owner Drives: 2007 Meteorite Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Suburban Chicago Posts: 43	Yaris Tachometer? What the hell are you people thinking???? If you wanted a performance car, you wasted your money big time! Do you actually think most potential buyers care if it has a tachometer or not? The Yaris is an econo-car. !!!GET OVER IT!!!! __________________ "Success isn't permanent, and failure isn't fatal" - Mike Ditka "Clown Car" - 07 3dr Yaris "Redneck Roadster" - 04 Chevy SSR "Wife's Ride" - 03 Honda Accord EX

09-20-2006, 04:18 AM	#10
ToyVitz Drives: 07 tC, 01 IS300, 86 Supra Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 24	I can see both sides to the story, but if you offer stuff like TRD exhaust, wheels, shift knobs, sport suspension, lowering springs, and a cold air intake... why wouldn't you offer something as simple as a tachometer to complement some of the "performance" options? Let's face it if you're adding these options you probably want a tach to monitor your engine revs. At least offer the US a kit like the Vitz has where you can mount the 3 gauge pods where the drivers glove box is. My 2 cents! __________________ Neal 2007 Scion tC - 2001 Lexus IS300 - 1986 Toyota Supra

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09-09-2006, 02:06 AM	#1
ex_MGB I've made a post! Drives: '97 Max SE 5-sd, '01 Miata SE Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 1	I'm an old Vdub owner as well. Driven manuals forever. I think its kinda retro cool that Toyota did not put a tach in nor a cruise control. Truth be told, it's not hard to memorize your speed/gear/rpm relationship. With high rpm fuel cut-off you don't have to worry about blowing the engine. Back in the day there was a thing called "tuned" exhaust. You knew your engine rpm by the sound of the exhaust. That's when drivers enjoyed the sound and subtle mechanical feedback of their car and a lot of cars didn't have radios. As for cruise control, a Yaris is not exactly what I'd take on a 700 mile run on an interstate.

09-09-2006, 05:13 PM	#3
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	Honda used to have their low end model tack-less But for the last 2 generations of Civic, they've included Tachometer in all their Civics. Personally, If my 5dr Yaris didn't have a Tachometer, I would now be driving the Honda Fit. Back in 98, I was set on buyinh a Civic DX Coupe, but when I learned that Coupe version didn't have a Tacometer, while the Hatchback version did, I ended up buying the hatchback. (which was an added bonus since the Hatch ended up being much nicer then the coupe).

09-18-2006, 01:37 PM	#7
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	Somewhat off topic... I had a Honda Civic VX Hatchback. It had a tach, and it would do 111 MPH in 3rd gear (that was in the owners manual)! That was supposed to be an economy car as well, but it was so fun to floor! I once raced my boss in his new Mazda Mellinuim in a light to light. He was pissed when I beat him! I also had a Civic HX CVT, and this guy at work said he looked at those, but bought the Altima because it was faster. Raced him one day, and we were neck and neck 'til about 45MPH, then the CVT started spanking him. He looked over in utter disbelief and I was LMAO! I also had 3 big guys in my Civic compared to him and one other guy in the Altima. The HX had a tach too, but in a CVT the tach stops moving right at either the torque or HP max, and the CVT does all the work! Very cool tranny!

09-28-2006, 07:42 PM	#12
Reddington Drives: 1995 Corolla DX auto Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 26	http://www.scangauge.com/products/sg2photos/index.shtml Check this one out. Its an LED display that connects to the OBDII jack and mounts directly into the dash. It can display RPMs, current MPG, etc. The best part that I like about it is that it allows you to see the computer diagnostic codes when there is a problem. All for $169

10-14-2006, 08:48 PM	#13
gonzo452001 Drives: 3-door liftback blazing blue Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: French Lick,IN Posts: 185	leaving out the tach saved them a few dollars and they raised the price of the LB another 100.00 its now 11,050 .

10-17-2006, 03:41 AM	#14
paultyler_82 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Meteorite Metallic Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 441	kinda reminds me of my old 90 cavalier.... manual everything, no tach, but it even beat the Yaris on non-included options... it didn't have a passenger side outer rear-view mirror! Seriously, that was an OPTION at the time!

10-17-2006, 10:22 PM	#15
SmellyTofu 好多人& Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 264	If you can't drive a manual without a tacho, then you have serious problems. The digital dash is overrated. You can have mine if you could take it because I don't think I've ever actually looked at it whilst driving in everyday city driving. The only time I've actually needed it was on a racetrack which accounted for so far <0.005% of the distance I've covered in total this year. Even so, the digital dash is useless except the speedometer part. The tachometer in it increases every 250rpm increments anyway but I think it goes down as the engine speed increases. I don't know what it is exactly. It's really really overrated. If you want one, buy a TRD one that mounts on the front console lid.