Twin Charge!!! (the best of both worlds) - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

ddongbap · 10-24-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

Hmmm a lot of diesel cars use that now, I know Toyota's current Hilux pickups here have a variable geometry turbo like that, and I thiiink BMW's bigger turbodiesel motors do too.. It is a very interesting technology!

Mitsu Evos have that too.

Kaotic Lazagna · 09-26-2007, 04:27 AM

how about this. twin turbo's and a supercharger!

kurokoma-kun · 09-26-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

how about this. twin turbo's and a supercharger!

OMFG

I like the bright pink accent color, must be a girl's car

punch · 09-26-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

how about this. twin turbo's and a supercharger!

and how do we know this is twin turbo's?

more info, website please...

Kaotic Lazagna · 09-26-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by punch

and how do we know this is twin turbo's?

more info, website please...

here ya go...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2180560

and

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-105716.html

punch · 09-26-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

here ya go...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2180560

and

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-105716.html

well there ya go, can't figure it out though,
the exhaust spins the turbos, then goes to the downpipe --check
the supercharger, spins forces air into the intercooler, --- check
intercooler forces air into the cars intake--- check
the twin air filters, suck air into the turbos--- check

wheres the air from the turbo's going????? into the supercharger?

Duskin_Carpentier · 10-20-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by punch

well there ya go, can't figure it out though,
the exhaust spins the turbos, then goes to the downpipe --check
the supercharger, spins forces air into the intercooler, --- check
intercooler forces air into the cars intake--- check
the twin air filters, suck air into the turbos--- check

wheres the air from the turbo's going????? into the supercharger?

yes, the air will basically be pressurized out of the compressor of the turbocharger and leading to the inlet of supercharger which is craming even more air. Its a difficult concept to make efficent i think considering there will eventually be a weak link. The turbo charger can really most likely move more air then the supercharger and has the ability to make more power(depending on the size of the blower) so in other words after the turbo spools up and starts making boost sooner than it would the supercharger could actually become a hinderance to the engine because the turbocharger is pushin more air faster than the supercharger can handle. The supercharger as you know is connected to a belt so it will only spin so many rpms and create a fixed amount of boost. So you really have to have it down to a science so they both help eachother and no one pushes the other to far.

eTiMaGo · 09-26-2007, 04:59 AM

*gasp*

Kaotic Lazagna · 09-26-2007, 12:21 PM

hahaha, could be, but aren't Subaru Tecnica International parts pink?

kurokoma-kun · 09-26-2007, 02:45 PM

yeah, they are, just like the stickers on the bumper

Kaotic Lazagna · 09-26-2007, 08:12 PM

hahaha, not forced fed, so i barely know much (other than the basic force induction stuff).

bdc87 · 10-21-2008, 06:36 PM

Man the Germans have the best stuff. Long live the V-DUB.

richardholdener · 10-24-2008, 10:57 PM

I recently ran a test on a 2003 supercharged Mustang Cobra equipped with an Eaton supercharger. We ran the 4.6l 4-valve motor first with the supercharger alone, then with a pair of turbos feeding the supercharger and then again with the turbos alone (no blower). The test on this compound system demonstrated that the blower alone was the least effective in terms of power per pound of boost while the turbos alone were the most effective. Having the turbos feed the blower greatly improved the low-speed power production, but reduced the power output per pound of boost (basically the compound system ended up between the blower and turbo). Remember too that this compound system will dramatically increase the boost pressure supplied tot eh motor. Running the blower at 11 psi and the turbos at 7 psi resulted not in a total of 18 psi in the manifold but actually 23 psi (dropping to 20 psi at power peak). The compound system improves average power but reduces the power of turbo alone. I am currently testing a compound turbo system (large turbo feding a small turbo) on my 3-cylinder turbo Sprint motor.

Slitwrist Smile · 10-23-2008, 07:51 PM

I have a boosted tC. (trd charger). this is not mine, but taken from scionlife :

cali yaris · 10-24-2008, 12:16 AM

I've seen that one, it never ran well with that configuration. Props to them for trying a twin charge Scion though.

Here is my tC motor (443 whp / 474 torque @ 23 psi):

ddongbap · 10-24-2008, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I've seen that one, it never ran well with that configuration. Props to them for trying a twin charge Scion though.

Here is my tC motor (443 whp / 474 torque @ 23 psi):

NOBODY IS SAFE FROM THE BENT FILTER !!!!!

at3GG · 10-24-2008, 02:29 PM

cali yaris · 10-24-2008, 06:24 PM

LOL, so true!! dammit!

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09-26-2007, 04:27 AM	#2
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	how about this. twin turbo's and a supercharger!

09-26-2007, 12:21 PM	#9
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	hahaha, could be, but aren't Subaru Tecnica International parts pink?

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kurokoma-kun Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: my own little world Posts: 1,256	yeah, they are, just like the stickers on the bumper

09-26-2007, 08:12 PM	#11
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	hahaha, not forced fed, so i barely know much (other than the basic force induction stuff).

10-21-2008, 06:36 PM	#12
bdc87 HISTORY REPEATED 11/04/08 View User's Garage Drives: 07' MM Vitz LB Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA Posts: 355	Man the Germans have the best stuff. Long live the V-DUB.

10-24-2008, 10:57 PM	#13
richardholdener Drives: 2008 Yaris hatch Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Las vegas, NV Posts: 183	I recently ran a test on a 2003 supercharged Mustang Cobra equipped with an Eaton supercharger. We ran the 4.6l 4-valve motor first with the supercharger alone, then with a pair of turbos feeding the supercharger and then again with the turbos alone (no blower). The test on this compound system demonstrated that the blower alone was the least effective in terms of power per pound of boost while the turbos alone were the most effective. Having the turbos feed the blower greatly improved the low-speed power production, but reduced the power output per pound of boost (basically the compound system ended up between the blower and turbo). Remember too that this compound system will dramatically increase the boost pressure supplied tot eh motor. Running the blower at 11 psi and the turbos at 7 psi resulted not in a total of 18 psi in the manifold but actually 23 psi (dropping to 20 psi at power peak). The compound system improves average power but reduces the power of turbo alone. I am currently testing a compound turbo system (large turbo feding a small turbo) on my 3-cylinder turbo Sprint motor.

10-23-2008, 07:51 PM	#14
Slitwrist Smile Drives: 2008 yari sedan/2007 sc'd tC Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: York, PA Posts: 110	I have a boosted tC. (trd charger). this is not mine, but taken from scionlife :