Anyone running Royal Purple?

[Yar Is Word]

From Silverglow #19 attachment

Toyota Supports ASE Certification Page 1 of 2
EG018-06
Title:
ILSAC GF-4 ENGINE OIL RECOMMENDATION
Models:
All ’06 – ’07 Toyota & Scion Technical Service BULLETIN
March 29, 2006
TSB UPDATE NOTICE:
The information contained in this TSB supercedes TSB No. EG001–06.
TSB No. EG001–06 is now obsolete and should be discarded.
Toyota Motor Corporation manufacturing plants have begun using ILSAC GF–4 engine oil. This engine oil is recommended due to its superiority in terms of fuel economy and engine protection and due to its benefits for both the customer and the environment.
ILSAC GF–4 can be used in all Toyota and Scion engines.
NOTE:
The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle.
For Prius vehicles, refer to TSB No. EG050–04, “Engine Oil Specifications.”
2006 – 2007 model year Toyota and Scion vehicles.
OP CODE DESCRIPTION TIME OFP T1 T2
N/A Not Applicable to Warranty – – – –
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 5W–20
This oil has been set as the Toyota genuine engine oil, starting in February 2006 for the U.S. This oil is superior in terms of fuel economy, engine protection, and cold starting performance.
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 0W–20
This oil has even better fuel efficiency and cold starting performance than 5W–20. Initial application for 0W–20 is in the 2006 model year 2AZ–FE engine and will be used in new engines to be developed.
ENGINE
Introduction
Applicable Vehicles Warranty Information Recommended Engine Oils

ILSAC GF–4 ENGINE OIL RECOMMENDATION – EG018-06 March 29, 2006
Page 2 of 2
Engines That Can Use 5W–20 and 0W–20:
OIL ENGINE
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 5W–20
AZ series
GR series
JZ series
MZ series
NZ series
RZ series
UZ series
VZ series
1ZZ–FE
2TR–FE
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 0W–20
(Beginning with 2006 MY)
2AZ–FE Camry
2AZ–FE Solara
2AZ–FE Highlander
2AZ–FE RAV4 (ACA3#)
NOTE:
DO NOT use these oils in engines other than those listed above. These low–viscosity oils cannot maintain lubrication effectiveness in engines with older designs and could result in smoke emissions from the tailpipe and/or unusual engine noise.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by Yar Is Word

From Silverglow #19 attachment

Toyota Supports ASE Certification Page 1 of 2
EG018-06
Title:
ILSAC GF-4 ENGINE OIL RECOMMENDATION
Models:
All ’06 – ’07 Toyota & Scion Technical Service BULLETIN
March 29, 2006
TSB UPDATE NOTICE:
The information contained in this TSB supercedes TSB No. EG001–06.
TSB No. EG001–06 is now obsolete and should be discarded.
Toyota Motor Corporation manufacturing plants have begun using ILSAC GF–4 engine oil. This engine oil is recommended due to its superiority in terms of fuel economy and engine protection and due to its benefits for both the customer and the environment.
ILSAC GF–4 can be used in all Toyota and Scion engines.
NOTE:
The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle.
For Prius vehicles, refer to TSB No. EG050–04, “Engine Oil Specifications.”
2006 – 2007 model year Toyota and Scion vehicles.
OP CODE DESCRIPTION TIME OFP T1 T2
N/A Not Applicable to Warranty – – – –
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 5W–20
This oil has been set as the Toyota genuine engine oil, starting in February 2006 for the U.S. This oil is superior in terms of fuel economy, engine protection, and cold starting performance.
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 0W–20
This oil has even better fuel efficiency and cold starting performance than 5W–20. Initial application for 0W–20 is in the 2006 model year 2AZ–FE engine and will be used in new engines to be developed.
ENGINE
Introduction
Applicable Vehicles Warranty Information Recommended Engine Oils

ILSAC GF–4 ENGINE OIL RECOMMENDATION – EG018-06 March 29, 2006
Page 2 of 2
Engines That Can Use 5W–20 and 0W–20:

OIL ENGINE
ILSAC GF–4 SAE 5W–20

AZ series
GR series
JZ series
MZ series
NZ series
RZ series
UZ series
VZ series
1ZZ–FE
2TR–FE

ILSAC GF–4 SAE 0W–20
(Beginning with 2006 MY)

2AZ–FE Camry
2AZ–FE Solara
2AZ–FE Highlander
2AZ–FE RAV4 (ACA3#)

NOTE:
DO NOT use these oils in engines other than those listed above. These low–viscosity oils cannot maintain lubrication effectiveness in engines with older designs and could result in smoke emissions from the tailpipe and/or unusual engine noise.

SO...Toyota says do NOT use 0w-20 in the Yaris 1.5L NZ series engine, and Glow keeps providing that TSB link as proof the he likes to use the wrong oil in his Yaris...

Thank you.

[SilverGlow]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

SO...Toyota says do NOT use 0w-20 in the Yaris 1.5L NZ series engine, and Glow keeps providing that TSB link as proof the he likes to use the wrong oil in his Yaris...

Thank you.

Wrong!

The TSB says that we can use 5w-20 in our Yaris. However I choose to use 0w-20 because I understand oil. At 212F, 0w-20 and 5w-20 provide the SAME protection, the same viscosity, so what is the big deal? I use 0w for the first start on cold mornings (40F or colder), as it will circulate faster, and better, and that translates into more protection during the first start of every cold morning, and it is at that instance when 90% of engine wear happens.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

Wrong!

The TSB says that we can use 5w-20 in our Yaris. However I choose to use 0w-20 because I understand oil. At 212F, 0w-20 and 5w-20 provide the SAME protection, the same viscosity, so what is the big deal? I use 0w for the first start on cold mornings (40F or colder), as it will circulate faster, and better, and that translates into more protection during the first start of every cold morning, and it is at that instance when 90% of engine wear happens.

Wrong!! 5W-20 is NOT the same as 0W-20, and Toyota is aware of it, that's why they say 5W-20 is okay for the Yaris but 0W-20 is NOT okay for the Yaris. Can't believe you're too dense to understand something that simple.

Rearrange the TSB to fit your needs all you want, and make all the excuses you want, but it's gonna be tuff convincing the Toyota service department how wrong they are if they ever question you for using a viscosity that is listed right on the TSB as a viscosity to not be used in the Yaris NZ 1.5

[bdc87]

Use RP 5-20 with KN Oil Filter.

[id3379]

Originally Posted by bdc87

Use RP 5-20 with KN Oil Filter.

just picked up that combo tonight

[TheSilkySmooth]

Rp street oil is not synthetic so why spend the money for an Sh/Sj oil when you can go out and buy John Deere tractor oil at your home center? OOOhhh its purple (at least for a day)! Recent UOA on BITOG show shearing to 20W during service of 5W-30 street oil. Now RP application specific racing oils are a diff story altogether .... Only Redline and Some Amsoils are true synthetics that are readily available; so, if youre going to pay a premium whay not get the "real" stuff - Unless your a "faker" and a "phoney".

[TheSilkySmooth]

Back to the TSB EG018-06: So, if your oil filler cap or manual requests 5W-20 as a recommended grade, you can use ILSCA-GF4 instead of the API SL/GF3 in the manual. I cant see any other way to interpret this TSB.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Back to the TSB EG018-06: So, if your oil filler cap or manual requests 5W-20 as a recommended grade, you can use ILSCA-GF4 instead of the API SL/GF3 in the manual. I cant see any other way to interpret this TSB.

Yeah, my cap says 5w-30 and I don't know why I'd ever want to switch to 5w-20 eventho' the TSB says it's okay. The 5w-30 is in the owner's manual and appears to be the superior grade, at least where Pennzoil Platinum is concerned:

5w-30 (ACEA A5/B5)
5w-20 (ACEA A1/B1) ...maybe because 5w-20 has a higher "piss" content?

[Tamago]

:facepalm:

this thread is still going?

[Red Horse]

What happen if I mix 2 quarts of royal purple and 1 quart of amsoil for the next oil change ?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Red Horse

What happen if I mix 2 quarts of royal purple and 1 quart of amsoil for the next oil change ?

that creates a gold/ruby/ivory blend.. it's generally reserved for the Suzuki Swift.

i'm not sure the lowly 1NZFE can handle the power benefits of this oil change

[Red Horse]

Originally Posted by Tamago

that creates a gold/ruby/ivory blend.. it's generally reserved for the Suzuki Swift.

i'm not sure the lowly 1NZFE can handle the power benefits of this oil change

LOL that means its ok to mix it cause I have 1 quart amsoil leftover from the last oil change.

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by The Shape

So is four quarts of Castrol 5w-30 way to much?? I checked it and it is over the full line a little bit , but not drastically.

I put 4qt of Royal Purple 5w-30 all the time. I let it drain at least 5-10mins (sometimes i go for lunch and come back) before refilling, and i'm usually dead on the "high" mark.

[Yaribhini]

4qt's will be too much. On a perfectly level surface, I got the oil nice and HOT, not warm and proceeded to let it drain for 2 hours. 4 quarts was way too much oil. I'd say that the re-fill should start at 3.3 qts and possibly end up at 3.7 at the most. I know that 4 quarts was way too much oil because the pan is equipped with a fujitomo drain valve and I was easily able to drain ~ .5 quarts from the pan to get the correct fill.

[SilverGlow]

According to many Used Oil Analysis, Royol Purple is a very good oil, BUT not better then oils costing half as much. It is an internet myth that it is better then most. People get sold on it's color, as it is novel, and being more expensive then most oils, some people are fooled into thinking that it is better. It is not. Don't be suckered in!

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

did another change on sat. with 5w20 mobil1 and trd(rebadged k/n) filter.....

[mikenacarato]

hey 1sttoyota...let him blow his engine up...its ok :)