1st oil change ; At what miles ?

[Rand0m0sityxX]

Originally Posted by Hershey

What kind ( synthetic or conventional ) ? What brand ( Pennzoil , Valvoline , etc. ) ? What weight ( 5w-30 , 5w-20 , ... ) . THANKS

you SHOULD do your first around 1k to 1500. And I do that, as well as advise it, because the metal shards are still coming off the motor, and you don't want to drive 5k with that in your oil.

I also change every 4k with synthetic oil, i just use super tech from walmart and the filter.

I personally (no matter what anyone says) would trust a car going over 3k on conventional, but to each they're own opinion.

I also will advise to not use fram filters, they are not worth the money.

[Astroman]

I agree about FRAM, avoid that crap at all cost. And just follow the scheduled maintenance in the manual. Drive it right, and change at 5k miles and you'll be fine. Manual is an amazing thing.

[roxy1]

i see absolutely no point in using synthetic when changing every 5k, but the manufacturers of synthetic oil sure are good at marketing the miraculous wonders of their product. i have to give them that.

[robkay]

Hershey, what you have done and what you plan to do will not hurt a thing. I think it's a pretty good plan.

Oil change intervals are designed mainly by marketing. Manufactures want to claim that their cars are more maintainence free than the competition"s
The also want to say their cars are more "green" and get more "use" out of oli.

I would be very interested in seeing an example of "marketing" materials to support this proposition. I am not exactly a young guy and I cannot recall ever-- ever--seeing marketing materials from a car company stating, "Buy our car because you don't have to change the oil as often." I can't even recall a company promoting low maintenance as a feature because regular maintenance is a big money maker for dealerships. Luxury, glamor, speed, power, warranty, fuel economy, crash ratings--absolutely. But, low maintenance? NEVER.

OK, as far as the first oil change. I think there is some logic in doing the first one early, even though Toyota does not specifically recommend it. What's a couple bucks? But, after that I would go with the recommendations in the owners manual. If you want to spend a little more money and do it early, more power to you ya. Not sure it's really necessary, though.

[Hershey]

thanks . These oil changes with synthetic oil and TOYO oil filter are less than $17 .

[Aothachos]

when i get a manual hb, im changing my oil once i get home to synthetic