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Old 05-25-2010, 05:31 PM   #1
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And although you could get cars with 50+ MPGs in the 1980s, I'd much rather be in a crash in my 30 MPG Yaris vs. a 53 MPG Chevy Sprint.

However, it does speak to two things: 1) Our want for power and 2) Our lack of diesel options. Nowadays, if a car doesn't have 100 hp, it's nearly an impossible sell, regardless of mileage.
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Old 05-25-2010, 07:00 PM   #2
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Nowadays, if a car doesn't have 100 hp, it's nearly an impossible sell, regardless of mileage.
And we would have hostile foreign governments and the oil companies on their knees if we made a religion out of conservation.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:41 PM   #3
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same for CHINA , want to live the AMERICAN lifestyle . Bigger is better . They're part of reason why AMERICAN car manufacturers are staying afloat . Not good for the near future gas , diesel , and oil prices .
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:22 PM   #4
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Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:32 AM   #5
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Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.
yea if you call absolute poverty 'sustainable.' Might as well call it what it truly is to a good majority of the chinese population: "slavery."

some money is finally starting to flow to non uber wealthy chinese. of course they are going to start to spend it.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:17 AM   #6
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Yeah the super efficient nobody will ever find one to buy 2600 pound its all a lie that it gets 40 mpg version.
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:29 AM   #7
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I agree the Chinese people are in a position where they will soon be demanding a bigger slice of the pie. Its going to be a difficult balancing act for everybody. China is only seeing an illusion of prosperity. Once the cheap labor goes, what happens then? Revolution? And when, as it seems likely, the Revolution doesnt produce the desired results, whats to follow THAT? There just isnt enough $$$$ to give everybody what they want.

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Old 01-16-2011, 07:55 PM   #8
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I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.
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Old 01-16-2011, 09:28 PM   #9
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I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.
One imperial gallon is approximately equal to 1.201 U.S. gallons. Canada, Great Britain, ect. use imperial gallons thus making the "MPG" figures significantly higher even when comparing identical cars.

Also, the USA's EPA provides estimates only good for the US market. Other countries produce their own estimates which vary due to different testing techniques.

Birdman, are you wondering if the Fiesta's 40 MPG figure is the European figure? It's not, that is the official EPA estimate for America - the same testing that gave the Yaris a 35 MPG highway figure.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:00 PM   #10
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I'd rather drive the Chevrolet Cruze Eco.

At least THAT is an American car, not a Mexican car.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:25 PM   #11
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most of GM's cars are made in mexico too.
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Stupid american UAW.... not so smart to price yourself out of a job.
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Old 01-21-2011, 12:07 AM   #13
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The '88 > '93 FORF Festivas ( Mazda 121 ) were manufactured in MEXICO . They were / are very dependable . Wonder if it's the same plant the new FIESTA is made at ?
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