|
09-16-2010, 03:03 AM | #37 |
Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 685
|
It's funny to me how people complain about $2.50 a gallon for gas. Let's see, a Grande something at Starbucks would cost about $4 , that's 16 oz. It's 8 times that in a gallon, so that makes $32 for a gallon of boiling water run through some ground beans... I haven't heard anyone complaining about that or blaming the government...
Why do people think they are entitled to cheap gas? Ferrchrissake, gas is cheaper than most drinking water at Safeway!!!
__________________
5% Tint Rear | Micro Image LED Ignition Light Kit |
09-16-2010, 01:43 PM | #38 | |||
A diesel yaris?!
Drives: 2010 UK Black Yaris HB Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: England, UK
Posts: 19
|
Quote:
Quote:
Why sell it us then? Taxing it heavily is supposed to make us use it less apparently. But it's just another moneymaker. However you see it, there are people that need to use their cars for everyday use, even treehuggers drive cars. Quote:
With the new Conservative Government looking to privatize the current health care, it will not be as "universal" as you think it is. |
|||
09-16-2010, 03:06 PM | #39 | |
Quote:
|
||
09-16-2010, 06:54 PM | #40 | ||
Only Happy When it Rains
|
Just comparing numbers is meaningless. And your average salaries are meaningless as well.
Quote:
Not to mention crappy coffee and bottled water are luxury items. No one would consider gas a luxury item, for 99% of the USA, it is a necessity. Quote:
__________________
Colin Chapman disciple |
||
09-16-2010, 08:08 PM | #41 | |
Drives: 2010 Carmine Red hatchback Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorful Colorado
Posts: 208
|
Quote:
This is essentially how the CPI is calculated and it is a very good economic indicator, so again.....hardly meaningless. There are so many people complaining about how much gas is and that it is overtaxed......you can see that taxes are only 15% of the price of a gallon of gas. Taxed, yes. But hardly overtaxed. When that number approaches 50% (like most EU countries) then people can bitch and moan about high taxes that pay for meaningless social programs that don't work. Here's another way to quantify it....assume you get 20MPG and drive 15,000 miles per year. You would use 750 gallons of gas per year. In 1960, 750 gallons would cost you $232.50 (750 x $0.31) and in 2010 it would cost you $2047.50 (750 x $2.73). Now you can make a ratio of your yearly gas bill in relation to what you earn. Median Income: 1960: $232.50/$5600= 4.15% 2010: $2047.50/$52,029= 3.93% Minimum Wage: 1960: $232.50/$2080= 11.2% 2010: $2047.50/$15,080= 13.6% Looks like a wash to me. So.....we are paying pretty much the same for gas today as people did 50 years ago. You can also use an inflation caculator to find out what something today would cost 50 years ago and vice versa. Try this one: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com and see for yourself. |
|
09-17-2010, 01:52 AM | #42 |
Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 685
|
^ +1,000,000. The numbers speak for themselves.
Oh, and by the way, Big Oil pays a lot of taxes alright... just not in the US... at least not the biggest chunk...
__________________
5% Tint Rear | Micro Image LED Ignition Light Kit |
09-17-2010, 06:58 AM | #43 |
Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper
|
I just think that everyone needs to conserve, whether it be for economic reasons or just because we shouldn't waste ever drop of everything just because we can. That's why everyone should drive a Yaris! :)
__________________
|
09-18-2010, 09:18 PM | #44 |
Banned
Drives: 09 jetta tdi dsg Join Date: May 2010
Location: mary esther fl
Posts: 91
|
fuel prices in the us are some of the cheapest in the world but people still complain about it. I spend 25 a week on gas and my commute is 32 miles ONE way which is double what most people drive so I dont see how you complain about spending less than 20 dollars a week on fuel.
|
09-18-2010, 09:23 PM | #45 | |
Banned
Drives: 09 jetta tdi dsg Join Date: May 2010
Location: mary esther fl
Posts: 91
|
Quote:
|
|
09-18-2010, 09:27 PM | #46 |
der Zeck
Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 5,231
|
Blah, blah blah.... you can rant and rave, crunch #'s all you want.... you can do nothing about gas prices. just deal with it
__________________
|
09-18-2010, 09:32 PM | #47 |
Banned
Drives: 09 jetta tdi dsg Join Date: May 2010
Location: mary esther fl
Posts: 91
|
I love it when poeple complain about cigarette prices.
|
09-18-2010, 09:34 PM | #48 |
der Zeck
Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 5,231
|
kinda like bitchin about fuel prices..... if you think the prices are so bad, stop buying
__________________
|
09-18-2010, 10:39 PM | #49 |
Hooch Brewer-Shine Sipper
|
Isn't that why we bought Yaris' in the first place? So we wouldn't have to buy so much gas! Like I said before, I don't care how high gas prices go, because the higher they are, the less people who are on the roads. Good enough. Well, Yaris' will be on the road. ;)
__________________
|
09-20-2010, 03:55 AM | #50 | |
Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: slovakia
Posts: 425
|
Quote:
I wan to react that in Europe we have to pay taxes. as someone said all countries have deficit and governments try to decrease it by taxing everything. The same happen in Slovakia but in comparison with other countries the road tax is not so horrible. I just do not understand where US government takes money (you do not have taxes on roads and gas etc) when you spend so much on wars (huge amount of money). Just curious I do not want to talk about the war whether it is right or wrong. |
|
09-20-2010, 11:12 AM | #51 | ||
Only Happy When it Rains
|
i love it when politicians tax cigarettes higher, then complain that they don't get enough tax money for cigarettes, yet they still all make sure everyone says how bad cigarette smoking is for you.
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Colin Chapman disciple |
||
09-20-2010, 02:36 PM | #52 | |
Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 685
|
Quote:
Here you get just some basic services and then you're on your own. Taxes are lower, sometimes much lower than some European countries, you get to keep more of you heard earned money, but you're also expected to look after yourself more. If your house burns down, don't come crying to the government, you had better be insured. That's the basic idea, the devil is in the details, of course As for, where the war money is coming from? Well, it's complicated... Read about the "Bretton Woods System" and reserve currencies. The US is in a privileged situation because of the role of the US dollar in the world and can get away doing things other countries (especially smaller countries) can't.
__________________
5% Tint Rear | Micro Image LED Ignition Light Kit |
|
09-20-2010, 03:03 PM | #53 |
Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: slovakia
Posts: 425
|
so we have to moved to US :) if it would be easier I will do so ;)
|
09-20-2010, 05:21 PM | #54 |
Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 685
|
^ LOL, I am from Romania and before 1989, during Ceausescu's regime, there was a joke all over the country, because people wanted to leave so badly: they used to say, the last one to leave the country should turn off the lights. That was a hint at the draconian energy conservation policies that were being practiced in Romania in the 80's. From our perspective, countries like Slovakia were paradise
Did you ever have to show your ID card to get your ration of butter, oil and sugar?
__________________
5% Tint Rear | Micro Image LED Ignition Light Kit |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
The Nitrous Thread | ChinoCharles | Performance Modifications | 116 | 02-16-2016 03:07 PM |
Yaris Fuel Pump | HTM Yaris | General Yaris / Vitz Discussion | 12 | 03-22-2012 03:34 AM |
The "let's brainstorm how to make a piggyback work" thread | eTiMaGo | Forced Induction Forum | 83 | 08-17-2011 03:54 PM |
Mini v. sedan = injury. No duh. Is this news? | jess | General Yaris / Vitz Discussion | 48 | 04-17-2009 06:46 AM |