2012 Chevrolet Sonic (Aveo replacement) - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Shroomster · 07-14-2011, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-El

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/bu...king.html?_r=1

I give GM credit for being the only ones to build a sub-compact in the US.
Hopefully though, the cost cutting doesn't prove troublesome. I'm still confident that the Sonic will prove to be a very good car, light years ahead of Aveo.

Total labor/production costs, location, model name aside...WTF is different about it from the current half model year Aveo that is rolling around out here?

Why the emphasis?

Kal-El · 07-14-2011, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroomster

Total labor/production costs, location, model name aside...WTF is different about it from the current half model year Aveo that is rolling around out here?

Why the emphasis?

Huh?

You really think there's not much difference?

The difference is greater than any typical complete redesign. Why? Because they are two cars built by two different companies. One by Deawoo, and one by GM. Comparing the Aveo to the Sonic is about the same as comparing the Aveo to the Yaris. Yup, that different.

Does this look like the Aveo?

djct_watt · 07-28-2011, 01:48 PM

I didn't know that you could select "P" on a manual transmission, LOL.

*kimona* · 07-15-2011, 08:31 AM

You actually find this car appealing? Yuk! It's uglier than the new Vitz.

Kal-El · 07-15-2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimona

You actually find this car appealing? Yuk! It's uglier than the new Vitz.

I certainly wouldn't buy one, but I wouldn't say it's ugly. This and the new Yaris are both very good looking. The best looking car in the segment though is the Fiesta.

Just saying that you gotta appreciate how big of an improvement this car is over the Aveo, the worst car of the last 10 years.

jpmck03 · 07-19-2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroomster

Total labor/production costs, location, model name aside...WTF is different about it from the current half model year Aveo that is rolling around out here?

Why the emphasis?

I see what you're saying... It does look pretty similar to what they are selling right now... Doesn't seem too radical of a change on the exterior.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimona

You actually find this car appealing? Yuk! It's uglier than the new Vitz.

+1. I swear the Aveo and this new Sonic are so hideous. I mean, what's up with the front end on this thing?

No aspect of either car is appealing to me. No, wait there is one good thing about them; they make the Yaris look sooo much better in comparison!

Shinare · 07-21-2011, 02:15 PM

Why do I keep seeing pictures of the interior of the sonic with a 6 speed manual when it will not be available with such?

Thirty-Nine · 07-22-2011, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinare

Why do I keep seeing pictures of the interior of the sonic with a 6 speed manual when it will not be available with such?

Where did you hear it wouldn't be available with a six-speed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autoblog.com

With a targeted 40 mpg highway from 1.4-liter, six-speed manual-equipped models and a genuinely engaging driving experience, the Sonic has the bones to be a legitimate competitor.

Posted 6/2/11
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/02/2...k-spin-review/

Shinare · 07-28-2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Where did you hear it wouldn't be available with a six-speed?

Posted 6/2/11
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/02/2...k-spin-review/

The information in the OP.

Quote:

Shifting duties are handled by either a five-speed manual transmission or a six-speed automatic gearbox.

dmfang · 07-15-2011, 12:23 PM

definitely looks like an improvement over the Aveo.

Not going to be trading in anytime soon, but it'll be interesting to see how the Sonic does at market... and what people think once the actual car can be tested in the real world

detroiter · 07-15-2011, 01:04 PM

If it's any indication though, I think the Ford Fiesta and the Focus will have it beat. I've read in Motor Trend that Ford WILL be releasing a souped up version of the Fiesta, putting down 180hp I believe. The Focus will obviously be a bit more.

Looks like the Yaris is once again being outdone by other companies who are updating their subcompacts and boosting power/handling. Such a shame on Toyotas part in my opinion.

Here's some proof and pics of the Fiesta ST
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...a-st-spy-shots

CrankyOldMan · 07-15-2011, 01:22 PM

So is this the realization of the "beat" and "spark" concepts that have been blowing around since 2008-ish? Or is that still going to happen everywhere but the US?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review

Thirty-Nine · 07-19-2011, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

So is this the realization of the "beat" and "spark" concepts that have been blowing around since 2008-ish? Or is that still going to happen everywhere but the US?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review

Spark is already on sale in a number of countries. There are still rumors it may happen here, too. The Sonic is a straight-up Aveo replacement.

Shroomster · 07-16-2011, 01:57 AM

it's still the aveo body that screams poor choices.....at least to me...and I hate how there is so much trickle down and not enough differentiation between the models....they all share far too many similar aspects...the center instrumentation/radio panels same as the malibu and the cruze... just my .02

toad · 07-16-2011, 02:57 AM

i saw a white hatch parked in my neighbor's driveway yesterday. haven't had a chance to ask him about it yet, but it looked pretty nice from a short distance.

i would definately drive one(manual with the turbo, please)!

fnkngrv · 07-21-2011, 02:22 PM

I have to admit that GM is at least trying to bring something to the market. I would need to see the hatch in person however I know I don't care for the sedan. It should make a HUGE difference moving away from Daewoo.

thebarber · 07-21-2011, 11:12 PM

all i have to say is factory forced induction = win.

carnageehw · 07-24-2011, 11:48 AM

Love the inside, and hope it does well. But it's still butt ugly, just like the Aveo.

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07-15-2011, 01:04 PM	#11
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	If it's any indication though, I think the Ford Fiesta and the Focus will have it beat. I've read in Motor Trend that Ford WILL be releasing a souped up version of the Fiesta, putting down 180hp I believe. The Focus will obviously be a bit more. Looks like the Yaris is once again being outdone by other companies who are updating their subcompacts and boosting power/handling. Such a shame on Toyotas part in my opinion. Here's some proof and pics of the Fiesta ST http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...a-st-spy-shots __________________ I live my life a quarter pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I'm free. I need FRIES! Two of them. The big ones. Oh, and I need them tonight. You're lucky the double shot of BBQ sauce didn't blow the seam on your nugget box. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat. Check it out, it's like this. If I lose, winner takes my happy meal. But if I win, I take the burger and the toy. To some people, that's more important.

07-21-2011, 02:22 PM	#16
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	I have to admit that GM is at least trying to bring something to the market. I would need to see the hatch in person however I know I don't care for the sedan. It should make a HUGE difference moving away from Daewoo. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

07-21-2011, 11:12 PM	#17
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	all i have to say is factory forced induction = win. __________________

07-15-2011, 08:31 AM	#4
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	You actually find this car appealing? Yuk! It's uglier than the new Vitz.

07-15-2011, 12:23 PM	#10
dmfang View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 76	definitely looks like an improvement over the Aveo. Not going to be trading in anytime soon, but it'll be interesting to see how the Sonic does at market... and what people think once the actual car can be tested in the real world

07-15-2011, 01:22 PM	#12
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	So is this the realization of the "beat" and "spark" concepts that have been blowing around since 2008-ish? Or is that still going to happen everywhere but the US? http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review

07-16-2011, 01:57 AM	#14
Shroomster '07 to '12:2 wipers to 1? View User's Garage Drives: '12 5-door LE & '14 5-door LE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,999	it's still the aveo body that screams poor choices.....at least to me...and I hate how there is so much trickle down and not enough differentiation between the models....they all share far too many similar aspects...the center instrumentation/radio panels same as the malibu and the cruze... just my .02

07-16-2011, 02:57 AM	#15
toad Drives: street-legal go-kart Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bowser's castle Posts: 627	i saw a white hatch parked in my neighbor's driveway yesterday. haven't had a chance to ask him about it yet, but it looked pretty nice from a short distance. i would definately drive one(manual with the turbo, please)!

07-24-2011, 11:48 AM	#18
carnageehw Drives: 2010 Fusion Hybrid Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 88	Love the inside, and hope it does well. But it's still butt ugly, just like the Aveo.

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