TRD sway bar for sedan

[Chris07LB]

Chalk another one up for the, "it works" crowd.

[St_G]

I have to admit a certain level of skepticism on the efficacy of any inexpensive mod, but I don't really understand the need to make mulitple, thread-crapping comments. If you've done a mod and didn't see much benefit, by all means mention it, but why turn it into a big fight?

In any case, this mod is cheap enough and at least designed to address my biggest complaint about the Yaris' handling, so I think I'll be giving it a shot.

[cleong]

Combinine the sway bar with stiffer springs and you should be all right.

[St_G]

If I could (afordably) do that without also lowering the car, I'd be all over it. I might still buy the TRD springs, since they don't lower very much and keep the same relative F/R heights (I REALLY don' like the look of most of the other lowering springs, as they drop the rear too much in relation to the front).

Originally Posted by cleong

Combinine the sway bar with stiffer springs and you should be all right.

[cleong]

I've not bottomed out my car on TTE springs ever, though its only two weeks since I installed it. The TTE springs turn out to be really comfortable and I have to say they aren't handling-oriented-stiff.

It appears that TTE found the exact spring rate balance between ride comfort and avoiding bottoming out the car while lowering it. Handling is not so much the focus of the springs... and no one complains of an uncomfortable car, they don't realize I've swapped the springs out.

I said in another thread they drop 30/25mm front to rear, so the car sits a little lower in front actually. Tein dressup springs and Tanabes seem to do an equal front and rear drop.

A lower front tends to shift the CG of the car forward a little as well, giving better on-power steering such as coming out of corners, but the trade off is a more nervous rear end when you brake.

I've let some air out of the rear tires to help cure the restless rear, though its not something I feel. More than one passenger told me that my rear end felt like it was stepping out when I drive enthusiastically, while I just feel that it comes around really well without feeling like the car is dragging its ass through corners.

But to come back on topic, I'm really interested in the sway bar too. How springs might come into play with the swaybar, is that if the springs are too stiff, the swaybar might not be able to transfer enough weight across to the unladen wheel to make a difference.

[St_G]

I remember the pics of your car, Cleong, and I very much liked the stance. I'm not concerned with bottoming out so much as I just kinda like the stock ride height. But I don't at all like the pitching and rolling during turns.

So yeah, for $150 and an install that I can do myself? I'm going to give this bar a shot. Hell, if I don't feel any difference, I'm sure I can turn it around and not lose too much cash on the deal.

[Chris07LB]

Well with my Tanabe DF's, Tanabe upper strut bar, and Cusco lower tie bar, I too was told the overall improvements were all in my head...

The rear sway is next on my list.

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Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Well with my Tanabe DF's, Tanabe upper strut bar, and Cusco lower tie bar, I too was told the overall improvements were all in my head...

The rear sway is next on my list.

If you still have the stock tires, get rid of them. Putting something better on is the best thing you can do, even before springs.

Both the tie bars should have helped a little.. the spring should have been more dramatic though.

Who told you that?

[cleong]

Originally Posted by St_G

I remember the pics of your car, Cleong, and I very much liked the stance. I'm not concerned with bottoming out so much as I just kinda like the stock ride height. But I don't at all like the pitching and rolling during turns.

So yeah, for $150 and an install that I can do myself? I'm going to give this bar a shot. Hell, if I don't feel any difference, I'm sure I can turn it around and not lose too much cash on the deal.

I'd really suggest you plump for height adjustable suspension with stiffer springs then, given your preference for the stock ride height. I'm not sure if there's anyone making springs that let you maintain your stock ride height while reducing the pitching and rolling.

Of course, the swaybar's a much cheaper option, and I think even if the problem isn't completedly fixed, you're already halfway there, and then you can think about the suspension I mentioned above.

[eTiMaGo]

he's making fun on the original ass-umption that the sway bar does nothing, it's all in people's heads, hence the eye-rolling smiley... right?

[magoo_lc1]

Wow! for a minute i thought i was on honda tech. I hope it mellows in here thats why i like coming here: to get away from the b.s. of the other sites. If i had the car i would rock the sway.

[sf180th]

Just ordered the TRD Sway bar along with TRD lowering springs, this should make a diffrence!

[Chris07LB]

good deal.

[St_G]

Ordered the sway bar from Sparks last night. Was going to order the springs too, but I spent damn near $150 on dinner Friday night (sort of on accident) so those will have to wait while I get my alarm and window tinting installed.

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

put the trd sway bar on today and it looks nice. not sure if it does anything yet, but springs are coming next......

[eco]

RocklandToyota,I have a few questions about your sig.Do those TC mats have a TC logo or Scion logo?Do they fit the Yaris perfectly,does the driver side mat use the 2 clips to stay in place?
Why did you use the XB neon light package,is it the same package for the Yaris,just cheaper?

[eco]

Ohya,I have my rear TRD bar installed,and my ass is alot smoother,like a baby's.

[curik]

Hmm I wonder if the torsion beam is an independent type of suspension. On my Accord Euro (very similar to your Acura TSX in the USA) has independent rear suspension, and I could feel a huge improvement by upgrading the stock swaybar, there is more oversteer. But since the swaybar acts to limit the movements between the left and right arms, it requires the left arm to be independent to the right one. In our case, the torsion beam connects the left and right suspension, hence by adding an extra swaybar, it increases the "stiffness" of the torsion beam. However since torsion beam is a non independent type suspension, the increase of handling performance will be less than if it was fitted on an independent type rear suspension.

This could be the reason why he said adding a swaybar on a torsion beam suspension does not do s@#!. I actually own a liftback yaris and I am thinking to get the swaybar too. But so far I have not seen any convincing words which can make me click the buy it now button.