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06-08-2014, 07:34 PM | #37 |
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went to the Milwaukee area late last night from southwest MI. this was pretty much all I-94 interstate at 45-70 mph, depending on construction zones/congestion, and some rain. admittedly id say 70% of the trip was at 50-65 mph, so good conditions for mpg's.
414.8 total miles. 9.18 gallons used. 45.18 mpg's. computer showed 44.9. the only stopping was for tolls. the rest was literally going with the flow of traffic. there was enough traffic (mostly the greater Chicago/Milwaukee area) that most of the lanes were going about the same speeds. no hypermiling. a monkey could have been driving and gotten the same mileage. 2014 5 speed manual. completely stock, except for the weather tech floor liner and OEM SE shift knob. |
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In the unlikely event you know what you're talking about, please explain what is "the 1/2 ton of toxic waste the earth needs to deal with, when I prius is wrecked." |
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06-09-2014, 12:03 PM | #39 | |
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Yes, if you know nothing about cars and electricity and ask a stealership to do it, the sticker shock will be predictable. Same as any major failure in any regular car. But, I'm wasting my time here as this is obviously Yaris boy fan club and personally having both yaris and prius makes me too objective to participate in hybrid hate. |
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06-09-2014, 12:14 PM | #40 |
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The only differences between your car and mine : A/T vs M/T (negligible difference in this car) Cruise control is set whenever possible (for me) Tanabe exhaust vs stock aFe intake vs stock 36-38 psi vs ? stock wheels & tires on both (I'm assuming) I average 15 miles one way for work, usually a/c off and Windows down, I drive at the speed limits (40-65) +/-5mph with no jackrabbit starts the average temperature here right now is about 85-90 I'm getting 340-360/tank and I usually fill up about 10.5-11 gallons Could climate, air quality & location be to blame for this difference? Sent from my metallic purple honami
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06-09-2014, 01:30 PM | #41 | |
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#1. Lots of rare earth metals! Rare earths occur naturally with the radioactive elements thorium and uranium, which, if not stored securely, can leach into groundwater or escape into the air as dust. The refining process requires huge amounts of harsh acids, which also have to be disposed of safely.
Production of the Prius is described as "the biggest user of rare earths of any object in the world. #2. Production of the batteries and disposal of the batteries has a huge impact on our environment. Just because it's all done in third world areas, does not make it any less toxic to the planet. What Prius owner don't get, is nothing is free! The gasoline engine is very efficient and clean. The Prius is less efficient once you add the toxic waste, and cost to the planet(not the prius owner). Prius owners are as guilty of poisoning our planet, as any of the chemical companies that dump there waste. The Prius owners may not be tipping the toxic barrel, but they are in the toxic waste chain(imo). Folks that run out and buy a Prius, are ignorant emotional consumers. If they were informed with a logical thought process, they would not buy a Prius. Quote:
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06-09-2014, 01:37 PM | #42 | |
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I find these people to be ignorant emotional consumers, thats all, no hate.
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06-09-2014, 01:56 PM | #43 | |
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most folks I see here and on fuelly pulling really good mileage are diving manuals. I just think in the real world, the difference between the manual and auto is more significant than what the epa results would indicate. |
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06-09-2014, 02:02 PM | #44 | |
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Use of "rare elements" in Prius is in form of electric motor magnets. The same magnets are used in hard drives, fridge magnets, and thousand of other things you use everyday. Maybe you are one of those "ignorant emotional consumers" who don't know about it? Myth #2. Prius HV batteries are produced and recycled in Japan. Last time I checked it was first world country. Your sources are clearly lies. Toyota ships used batteries back to Japan: http://tms.ccar-greenlink.org/HV%20B...y_Program.html By the way, there are the same NiMH batteries that you use or used to use in toys and other electronic equipment everyday. "ignorant emotional consumers" again? You are clearly drinking too much oil companies coolaid. How come you are not concerned about them poisoning environment by fracking. I know, I know, it has to do with hypocrisy. |
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I agree with roxy1 in his reply....that real world difference between the manual and the automatic is greater than recognized by the EPA. |
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06-09-2014, 08:08 PM | #49 | |
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At that point it was clear I nailed JB correctly, added him to my Ignore list, and moved on.
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Also, come to think of it, I don't think an enduser could rebuild a Prius battery. In fact I don't know of many, if any, that could rebuild any battery. Batteries are not made to be opened. As far as I know, there all sealed, and are designed to stay sealed. Can you imagine what sort of fumes would fill a Prius, if just one battery sprung a leak. The kids sleeping over the battery compartment would be the first to go.
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06-09-2014, 11:42 PM | #53 | |
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The HV batteries are not sealed just like prius doesn't carry 1/2 ton of "toxic waste". You are just one ignorant teenager with load mouth. Because of that, I forgive you. Over and out. |
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