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nookandcrannycar · 03-12-2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Amdkt7

It can be harmful to the evaporation control system to overfill the tank.

So be it. I want to know that with each fill up that my reference point is as close to the same as possible. I don't trust 'the clicks', and that isn't specific enough to suit me. I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I have done this on every car I've ever owned and have never had any fuel related parts or service issues. In 2011 or 2012 I posted how I do my fill ups on a thread about fill ups. Why? posted that my level of fill up = extremely dangerous. I replied, asking him why. He didn't reply, so I'm unsure what he meant. Perhaps his thought was the same as yours above.

Amdkt7 · 03-12-2013, 07:53 PM

I have read about what happens, but forget what exactly it can do. The manuals all warn to not do it, for some reason. I think the point that it becomes a problem is when the gas gets into the vent line, which is right at the top of the fill tube. As long as the gas is below that vent it should be ok. However if it is close and your car gets on a slope such that the gas now tips into it you could be looking at costly repairs. The charcoal canister, as far as I remember.

nookandcrannycar · 03-12-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Amdkt7

gets on a slope

LOL. You'd be amazed how flat it is around here. Technically, any road that isn't completely flat has some slope....but what one normally thinks of as 'parking on a slope' is almost non existent around here. I'm not just saying that because I've lived in only hilly areas before this -- I think natives here would agree with me re the flatness of the terrain. I like it --- much easier on the car and biking, walking, etc = much simpler (you only have to think about distance, not terrain)....the rest of my family, not so much. They all have to either have hills and mountains around them or mountains within a 3 hour drive.

Amdkt7 · 03-12-2013, 07:57 PM

You are right, you really can't trust the point where it clicks to stop, but it really is close enough. Less than 1-2 mpg error I believe. Better, get a Scan gauge, I believe those tools are much closer to the truth.

nookandcrannycar · 03-12-2013, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amdkt7

You are right, you really can't trust the point where it clicks to stop, but it really is close enough. Less than 1-2 mpg error I believe. Better, get a Scan gauge, I believe those tools are much closer to the truth.

I have run out of gas a few times, but when I have I already know that I'm cutting it super, super close. The last time was on a late September/early October 2012 trip to what turned out to FL and AL. I got gas in the middle of nowhere on I-10 near I-75. I was headed to Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg. I was keeping track of the intervals between mileage bar drops in my head. I got just enough gas for the rest of the trip to 'The Trop' plus another approximately 1.5 miles to get to the station I wanted to go to (I didn't want to pay the rip off middle of nowhere price for any more than the minimum I needed). I ended up running out of gas about two miles before the stadium...so my on the fly estimate was under 4 miles off. I didn't want to stop for more gas because I wanted as much time as possible at the hitters museum (which relies on volunteers and doesn't have set hours). For some reason, I'm nearly always able to estimate it this accurately or even closer (and have rarely run out of gas. I've done fill ups of 12.5 gallons or more many times. I've thought about getting a Scan Gauge, but I'll wait until I'm certain I wouldn't be too obsessive about using it

(looking at it all the time, constantly crunching scenarios in my head, etc.).

screenprintr · 03-12-2013, 11:39 PM

Was is this Scan Gauge everyone keeps talking about?

Amdkt7 · 03-13-2013, 08:55 AM

There are a number of Ecometers on the market, some have different features, all plug into the diagnostic port under the dash. Instant feedback of your FE is very helpful, it can really change your habits. The 2012-13 models have a very basic one built in, which is what I'm using at the moment.
The Scangauge II is popular, but I have not done any research yet into buying one. The one built in is hard to see, and you have to toggle between six or seven different modes.

wajeehr · 08-30-2013, 03:15 PM

having a similar kind of problem these days ...
do you people have some solution besides keep the fuel tank full

bronsin · 08-30-2013, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wajeehr

having a similar kind of problem these days ...
do you people have some solution besides keep the fuel tank full

Ah keeping the tank full! (or half full) Simple, cheap and effective!

Who woulda thunk it?

nookandcrannycar · 09-03-2013, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Ah keeping the tank full! (or half full) Simple, cheap and effective!

Who woulda thunk it?

^^^^^ This post prompted me to think about a question I've never happened upon on Yarisworld....namely...How much does a gallon of gas weigh? Your thought above prompted me to think about members who have taken out their rear seats (some re the weight). I wonder how the weight of half a tank of gas would compare to the rear seat and seat back (and bolts/hardware)?

bronsin · 09-04-2013, 12:14 AM

Gas is 7 pounds per gallon. Thats 77 pounds for a full tank. Not a good reason to drive around 1/2 full!

I would take my rear seat out too but what if I sell the car? I would lose everything!

nookandcrannycar · 09-04-2013, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Gas is 7 pounds per gallon. Thats 77 pounds for a full tank. Not a good reason to drive around 1/2 full!

I would take my rear seat out too but what if I sell the car? I would lose everything!

Any idea how much the rear seat/back/and hardware weigh? Just curious.

xdarkxfirex · 06-18-2017, 12:34 AM

Never had it run out, but did have the feeling it was off. Sometimes it goes down slower than others. Like yesterday night I filled it and it was approx 8 km away from home. went to another city and came back and it still showed full. Drove it approx 25km more and it went down one bar, so that was like 137km total distance to go down. Drove it again 55km and it went back down another bar. Filled it up to the top, and was 13.856L. Not too far off, but the gauges arent as accurate as we would prefer. Its a 42L tank, about 11 gallons.

09-04-2013, 12:14 AM	#11
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,784	Gas is 7 pounds per gallon. Thats 77 pounds for a full tank. Not a good reason to drive around 1/2 full! I would take my rear seat out too but what if I sell the car? I would lose everything! __________________ Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head

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03-12-2013, 07:53 PM	#2
Amdkt7 Returning to Toyota Drives: 2013 L 3dr MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 154	I have read about what happens, but forget what exactly it can do. The manuals all warn to not do it, for some reason. I think the point that it becomes a problem is when the gas gets into the vent line, which is right at the top of the fill tube. As long as the gas is below that vent it should be ok. However if it is close and your car gets on a slope such that the gas now tips into it you could be looking at costly repairs. The charcoal canister, as far as I remember.

03-12-2013, 07:57 PM	#4
Amdkt7 Returning to Toyota Drives: 2013 L 3dr MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 154	You are right, you really can't trust the point where it clicks to stop, but it really is close enough. Less than 1-2 mpg error I believe. Better, get a Scan gauge, I believe those tools are much closer to the truth.

03-12-2013, 11:39 PM	#6
screenprintr Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 213	Was is this Scan Gauge everyone keeps talking about?

03-13-2013, 08:55 AM	#7
Amdkt7 Returning to Toyota Drives: 2013 L 3dr MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 154	There are a number of Ecometers on the market, some have different features, all plug into the diagnostic port under the dash. Instant feedback of your FE is very helpful, it can really change your habits. The 2012-13 models have a very basic one built in, which is what I'm using at the moment. The Scangauge II is popular, but I have not done any research yet into buying one. The one built in is hard to see, and you have to toggle between six or seven different modes.

08-30-2013, 03:15 PM	#8
wajeehr Drives: Toyota Vitz Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Lahore Pakistan Posts: 6	having a similar kind of problem these days ... do you people have some solution besides keep the fuel tank full

06-18-2017, 12:34 AM	#13
xdarkxfirex Drives: 2015 yaris le Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: hamilton, on Posts: 149	Never had it run out, but did have the feeling it was off. Sometimes it goes down slower than others. Like yesterday night I filled it and it was approx 8 km away from home. went to another city and came back and it still showed full. Drove it approx 25km more and it went down one bar, so that was like 137km total distance to go down. Drove it again 55km and it went back down another bar. Filled it up to the top, and was 13.856L. Not too far off, but the gauges arent as accurate as we would prefer. Its a 42L tank, about 11 gallons.