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derickveliz2 · 11-23-2010, 02:19 AM

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If there are 2 types of speakers characteristics:

-Free Air (no need of enclosure just a baffle)
-Enclosure specific (XX cubic feet of internal volume)

So I asked my self?... is the internal volume of the spheres enough for the HL-70 to perform properly?

I email Hertz and they told me it's a Free Air driver and for my application I need at least 1 Liter = 61.0237 in³ of internal volume. According to my math a 5" sphere is about 65 in³ so I should be OK, but

"NO" I measured the spheres and real dimensions have a 4.5" diameter less the sides I cut short to match the a-pillars... I did a water test to find out the internal volume and it's a little under 1/2 liter.

I guess I'm going to have to open a second hole into the A-pillars to vent the enclosure for proper driver performance. Also will use some Poly Fill.

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sqcomp · 11-23-2010, 12:25 PM

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derickveliz2 · 11-23-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

...You didn't know this BEFORE? *smack*

I kind of knew, but never realized on the effects on such a small driver and how it will play lower frequencies from 200 Hz to 14k Hz. The Spheres as sealed enclosures could affect it's performance, but if I open them into the a-pillar I won't have a problem.

derickveliz2 · 11-25-2010, 02:46 AM

Here is a little bit more work on the spheres...

What I thought it would be flat black came out brown, ...

Any way at the end I may end up "FLOCKING" the spheres and the a-pillars, SQ, Palmer or any body else... do you know how to do it? I've been searching online and can't find a DIY

Spheres with primer and some spray paint:

derickveliz2 · 11-25-2010, 03:41 AM

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I found this Site with Flocking materials...

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derickveliz2 · 11-26-2010, 12:43 AM

I brought the spheres up stairs, for my wife to see... she surprised me and said..."They look pretty good"

So for now they are going to live like that, maybe add some soft texture and a flat black look; then after everything is installed I'll think about flocking or not.

I have to get smaller Threaded Inserts to hold the HL-70s to the spheres, the ones I got are a tad too big.

AM... save the best for last!

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derickveliz2 · 11-26-2010, 12:55 AM

HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERY BODY!

derickveliz2 · 11-26-2010, 02:27 AM

Black looks much better!

packetrace · 11-26-2010, 03:12 PM

:thum bup:

: thumbup:

its just too sick how they look great

derickveliz2 · 11-29-2010, 03:46 AM

After celebrating turkey day in New Hampshire and a long weekend with Family and Friends, we are back and here I am trying to install the "threaded inserts" I wish they make smaller ones for my 3" speakers, it has to be precises or it won't work, not a lot of space to play with.

Finally at the end looks good and they work great!

Derick.

derickveliz2 · 11-29-2010, 03:48 AM

Sqcomp...

what does "glassing with a racketball" means?

D.

derickveliz2 · 11-29-2010, 03:53 AM

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Next step...

Open a second hole into to the spheres to let the Mids breath!

The opening would be a little bit bigger than the red mark, and then I'll match it in the A-pillar, and will seal the edges with Butyl Rope to help with vibrations and acoustics.

Derick.

derickveliz2 · 12-01-2010, 02:20 AM

Left a-pillar is ready for speaker + wires, I'm letting the HL-70s breath through the a-pillar, I added some peaces of CLD-Tiles inside the sphere and behind the a-pillar, I will cover the CLD-Tiles behind the a-pillar with CCFoam, I also got a layer of CCFoam between the sphere and the a-pillar.

Feels very solid, we'll see how it works and if it needs more dampening material...

Derick

derickveliz2 · 12-01-2010, 12:34 PM

Here is the video:

LINK

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derickveliz2 · 12-01-2010, 03:08 PM

I'm getting 16 sq feet of MLV, 10 sq feet have Pressure Sensitive Adhesive, we'll see how it works...LINK to MLV

By the way forgot to mention that the amp and sub are here!

derickveliz2 · 12-01-2010, 04:35 PM

I had to peak in one of the boxes... IDQ12's are AWESOME!
The pictures I've seen online don't make justice to such a beautiful beast.

derickveliz2 · 12-02-2010, 02:59 AM

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One of each!

D.

Alien Mantis · 12-02-2010, 03:45 AM

Derick, those are some really nice electroacoustic transducers you got there!

11-23-2010, 02:19 AM	#1
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I was wondering about the small HL-70 Hertz 3"(mids) in the spheres... . If there are 2 types of speakers characteristics: -Free Air (no need of enclosure just a baffle) -Enclosure specific (XX cubic feet of internal volume) So I asked my self?... is the internal volume of the spheres enough for the HL-70 to perform properly? I email Hertz and they told me it's a Free Air driver and for my application I need at least 1 Liter = 61.0237 in³ of internal volume. According to my math a 5" sphere is about 65 in³ so I should be OK, but "NO" I measured the spheres and real dimensions have a 4.5" diameter less the sides I cut short to match the a-pillars... I did a water test to find out the internal volume and it's a little under 1/2 liter. I guess I'm going to have to open a second hole into the A-pillars to vent the enclosure for proper driver performance. Also will use some Poly Fill. . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-23-2010, 12:25 PM	#2
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	* __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 12-13-2010 at 01:08 PM.

11-25-2010, 02:46 AM	#4
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Here is a little bit more work on the spheres... What I thought it would be flat black came out brown, ... Any way at the end I may end up "FLOCKING" the spheres and the a-pillars, SQ, Palmer or any body else... do you know how to do it? I've been searching online and can't find a DIY Spheres with primer and some spray paint: __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-25-2010, 03:41 AM	#5
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	. I found this Site with Flocking materials... . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-26-2010, 12:43 AM	#6
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I brought the spheres up stairs, for my wife to see... she surprised me and said..."They look pretty good" So for now they are going to live like that, maybe add some soft texture and a flat black look; then after everything is installed I'll think about flocking or not. I have to get smaller Threaded Inserts to hold the HL-70s to the spheres, the ones I got are a tad too big. AM... save the best for last! . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-26-2010, 12:55 AM	#7
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERY BODY! __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-26-2010, 02:27 AM	#8
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Black looks much better! __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-26-2010, 03:12 PM	#9
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	:thum bup:: thumbup:its just too sick how they look great __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

11-29-2010, 03:46 AM	#10
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	After celebrating turkey day in New Hampshire and a long weekend with Family and Friends, we are back and here I am trying to install the "threaded inserts" I wish they make smaller ones for my 3" speakers, it has to be precises or it won't work, not a lot of space to play with. Finally at the end looks good and they work great! Derick. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-29-2010, 03:48 AM	#11
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Sqcomp... what does "glassing with a racketball" means? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-29-2010, 03:53 AM	#12
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	. Next step... Open a second hole into to the spheres to let the Mids breath! The opening would be a little bit bigger than the red mark, and then I'll match it in the A-pillar, and will seal the edges with Butyl Rope to help with vibrations and acoustics. Derick. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-01-2010, 02:20 AM	#13
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Left a-pillar is ready for speaker + wires, I'm letting the HL-70s breath through the a-pillar, I added some peaces of CLD-Tiles inside the sphere and behind the a-pillar, I will cover the CLD-Tiles behind the a-pillar with CCFoam, I also got a layer of CCFoam between the sphere and the a-pillar. Feels very solid, we'll see how it works and if it needs more dampening material... Derick __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-01-2010, 12:34 PM	#14
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Here is the video: LINK . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-01-2010, 03:08 PM	#15
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I'm getting 16 sq feet of MLV, 10 sq feet have Pressure Sensitive Adhesive, we'll see how it works...LINK to MLV By the way forgot to mention that the amp and sub are here! __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-01-2010, 04:35 PM	#16
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I had to peak in one of the boxes... IDQ12's are AWESOME! The pictures I've seen online don't make justice to such a beautiful beast. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-02-2010, 02:59 AM	#17
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	. One of each! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-02-2010, 03:45 AM	#18
Alien Mantis Secret Agent Drives: 2008 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 350	Derick, those are some really nice electroacoustic transducers you got there! __________________ www.sonicelectronix.com for all your mobile audio needs!

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