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Let me know how it works for you. I may have gotten the WM special misformulated bottle Also what filter are you planning on running with the AFE? - I would rec against the purolator gold or any high efficiency unit in the winter - given the incredible loud startup and warmup racket I had with the bosch(purolator). Please report back. I dont want to be alone in my AFE woes!
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01-08-2010, 06:39 PM | #74 | |
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I snuck regular YB Pennzoil 5w-30 in my Yaris for about 3K miles of my last OCI because I was eager to install my Fram sure-drain...sure-drain works great, but YB Pennzoil was a little noisier when pulling into my garage. Pennzoil Platinum is the quietest I've used, slightly beating the Eneos and HP Amsoil...the Mobil 1 isn't any louder than the PP, maybe even less noise than the PP, definitely much quieter than the conventional I had in there. |
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01-09-2010, 12:45 AM | #75 |
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using PLATINUM 5w-30 in the '09 5 door . Got it for less than $3 a qt.. TOYO ( Denso ) oil filter at $3.50 each . Use its brother , SHELL 5w-30 full synthetic ( $3 a qt. ) in the '08 sedan along with TOYO filter .
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01-09-2010, 03:01 PM | #76 |
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I just changed fuel from Shell where I had been getting a terrible 33 mpg ave over 3 tanks to Mobil. Mobil was crummy in the summer, but this batch seems very good and I know that the last batch of shell has been killing my mileage and causing all kinds of noise and driveability issues - suspect it was misformulated or had WAY too much ethanol in it. My 17 deg cold start on the mobil was "acceptable" and warm run just peachy! So at leat part of my perceived "woes" are due to fuel quality.
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01-10-2010, 11:41 AM | #77 | |
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01-10-2010, 12:28 PM | #78 |
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^^ That's weird because mobil has their own tankers that I see refueling mobil and nowhere else. And are claims of additives(v-power, techron, etc) all false then?
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01-10-2010, 03:35 PM | #79 |
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Around here I see all brands of gas stations getting their tanks filled from trucks that say, I think, "Appalachian Petroleum." This jobber may add the brands' own proprietary additives, I don't know. Those are normally added to the tanker truck when it's filled at the terminal.
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01-10-2010, 05:54 PM | #80 |
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wow, this is news to me, i have never seen a shell truck at an esso or anything of the such
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I haven't seen any Mobil tankers in years, but there is a Mobil station on every corner. Not for sure about the claims. They could very well be false. Remember, the companies don't tell you how much additives they are actually putting in. They could add 1 oz. of additive to a 3000 gallon tank and that would make their claim be true.
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01-10-2010, 07:11 PM | #82 |
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You are correct Yaris. The gasoline is the same but the additive package of the particular brand of gasoline is added to the gas before it is delivered to the station.
Shell and Chevron for example are top tier gasolines. If a top tier brand sign is displayed it is required to meet top tier gas standards. More info here: http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html |
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The website you posted says, "In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards. This does not mean that the retailer has to use the brand of gas that they advertise on the top of the building. For example, a Shell station doesn't have to use Shell gas. If the Shell station decides to use Shell gas, then that gas must then meet the standards. |
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01-11-2010, 07:03 AM | #84 | |
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and u are saying that i cannot complain because they dont have to supply as advertised..... not saying ure wrong and i know my example is bad but if its true, that is very unreasonable and wrong what they do......
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01-11-2010, 02:57 PM | #87 |
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very very true.... and i had realized my example was a bad one....
so now, take for example the shell commercials that dont talk so much about additives but more fuel quality overall and a cleaner burning and longer engine life overall..... how can they make those clames if in fact shell gas is the same as esso?? if anyone is wondering y i am picking on shell and esso, that is because in ontario(GTA) 3 main companies, shell, esso and petrocanada.....doubt anyone from the states has heard of petrocanada... lol
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Motor fuel is supposed to have a minimum level of detergents added per federal regulations ( or provide a spec levekl of deposit accumulation in operation on a test engine )- but no one is watching the pot and anything goes. Most e10 has a good amount of water in it since the ethanol sponges up any water in the UG storage tank. I worked at a gas station and we used to have about 3" of water in the tank. U put a tell-tale putty on the measuring stick when you stick the tanks and it indicates water. The problem with ethanol it absorbs all the water. I wouldnt want to be the first guy buyng gas a day after a station converted to e10 fuel! In fast my mothers car dies and will not start a couple months ago - thats when FL went to e10. She only gets gas a couple times a year since she doesnt drive much at all.
Help with fuel problems - If you are concerned that you may have been the victim of a fuel problem wheer you have to replace filter or injectors you should test the fuel for water and alcohol level - there are test kits available - lemme go scare up a URL .... http://www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_...ecautions.html Last edited by TheSilkySmooth; 01-16-2010 at 08:20 AM. Reason: add url |
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