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GnomeBody · 05-12-2010, 02:15 PM

^^^lol your kidding me right?!?!

I've never actually bothered to watch them do my state inspection so I wasnt sure... well damn, If thats the case than maybe their's a standalone in my future after all.

cdydjded · 05-12-2010, 02:25 PM

CTScott has a Techstream. It is not programable, he has tried. Techstream is only meant to reflash the ECU via Toyota TSB's. The reflash cannot be customized. That being said I still want you H3LlIon to try what you can to find a solution. A week ago I found out about the Techstream Lite & spoke to Techstream in detail about this issue.

As for the Dezod in Line ECU, a week ago I spoke to both Paul from Dezod & Allan from APR about their unit. They have no intention to make a unit for the Yaris, it is not financially feasible for them. But Paul did say that if I do the leg work in getting some technical specs on the Yaris ECU, he might change his mind. Iv have been working on that for him.

The issue is going to be the cost which will be in the $1800-$2000 price range or more. Now I know thats alot of $$$$ & it is not for everyone. This is not going to be for the N/A guy. This is a unit that will be for turbo or S/C. It will be comparable to a AEM EMS. It would be 100% better than a AEM FIC or Emanage. It would be a plug and play unit.

H3LlIoN · 05-12-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

CTScott has a Techstream. It is not programable, he has tried. Techstream is only meant to reflash the ECU via Toyota TSB's. The reflash cannot be customized. That being said I still want you H3LlIon to try what you can to find a solution. A week ago I found out about the Techstream Lite & spoke to Techstream in detail about this issue.

As for the Dezod in Line ECU, a week ago I spoke to both Paul from Dezod & Allan from APR about their unit. They have no intention to make a unit for the Yaris, it is not financially feasible for them. But Paul did say that if I do the leg work in getting some technical specs on the Yaris ECU, he might change his mind. Iv have been working on that for him.

The issue is going to be the cost which will be in the $1800-$2000 price range or more. Now I know thats alot of $$$$ & it is not for everyone. This is not going to be for the N/A guy. This is a unit that will be for turbo or S/C. It will be comparable to a AEM EMS. It would be 100% better than a AEM FIC or Emanage. It would be a plug and play unit.

I've been through his threads, I can't find anywhere where he has done a type up on his experimentation on the techstream, if he does have it. Why has he not mentioned? Also, unless he is with toyota, he most likely does not have access to TIS. Again, dude @ toyota said that some parameters are able to be changed, it depends on the vehicle. CTScott might have tried it, but I'm more of a "find out for myself" kind of guy. I got the techstream diagnostic cable already, hoping to get in this saturday and see what we're working with. As for Dezod, what kind of leg work is needed? PM me with specifics and I can see what I or my buddy @ Toyota can provide.

Oh and I love how you automatically assume that us N/A guys won't touch for that price. Also, from what I read, it is way easier to set up than EMS or comparable, since it uses all factory sensors.

cdydjded · 05-12-2010, 02:28 PM

Also let me add that Dezod has their unit working on the TC & they just got it to work on the xB2.

cdydjded · 05-12-2010, 03:32 PM

So since there is no threads about CTScott & a Techstream that means the BS flag immediately comes out? I dont get it. I cant speak for him, but I was not going to mention my work with Dezod until I was more advance in the project. I feel now that it would have been a better decision on my part. Im glad you are a "find out for myself" guy, I am also. Please keep on reasearching the possibilities of the Techstream.

Im not assuming, Im basing it on historical fact from this forum. Most N/A guys here want $50 headers & $25 intakes.

H3LlIoN · 05-12-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

So since there is no threads about CTScott & a Techstream that means the BS flag immediately comes out? I dont get it. I cant speak for him, but I was not going to mention my work with Dezod until I was more advance in the project. I feel now that it would have been a better decision on my part. Im glad you are a "find out for myself" guy, I am also. Please keep on reasearching the possibilities of the Techstream.

Im not assuming, Im basing it on historical fact from this forum. Most N/A guys here want $50 headers & $25 intakes.

You misunderstood me. I wasn't calling BS at all. (I believe we actually have a BS flag avatar for that) I was just remarking that I couldn't find any discussion/conclusions from him on the subject. You misunderstood my train of thought, or perhaps my delivery was ill worded. Apologies, if the latter is the case.

Regarding the work with Dezod, my offer still stands. If there is anything that we can provide, don't hesitate to ask; I'll be glad to help.

Also, $50 headers and $25 intakes are characteristic of bolt-on weekend drivers, not N/A guys. I'm basing that on 10 years spent in and around N/A teams, who spend two and three times what you would spend on FI to get [hopefully] the same power gains.

cali yaris · 05-12-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

bolt-on weekend drivers, not N/A guys

I am quite sure he meant those to be synonymous.

cdydjded · 05-12-2010, 05:27 PM

No need for apologies, all is good. Thanks for the offer on the help, Ill keep you in mind for anything I cant figure out.

There are two spectrums of N/A, people here will never be like the one you spent time around.

H3LlIoN · 05-12-2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

There are two spectrums of N/A, people here will never be like the one you spent time around.

Haha I'm hoping to change all that with this thread.

cdydjded · 05-12-2010, 05:33 PM

You & me both!

H3LlIoN · 05-20-2010, 01:16 AM

So...I got an email from Bill today asking me to confirm my shipping address so...hopefully that means this isn't much longer. In the meantime, here are the baselines, stock config all in one place:

98.93 hp
100.55 tq
16.64 1/4 mile E.T.

Black Yaris · 05-20-2010, 06:24 PM

Hmm.... wonder if that same 2az head will bolt to my 1az?

other thing I wonder is once a 2az head is fitted, would the tC supercharger mount up?

H3LlIoN · 05-20-2010, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Hmm.... wonder if that same 2az head will bolt to my 1az?

other thing I wonder is once a 2az head is fitted, would the tC supercharger mount up?

tc supercharger is centrifugal....should be able to mount on your 1AZ without switching heads. Fitment will be the issue.

Parmas · 05-21-2010, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Hmm.... wonder if that same 2az head will bolt to my 1az?

Sorry I am confused now... does Gude's Head consist of a 1NZFE head or 2AZ-FE head?

On their describtion Gude mentioned 2 times the 2AZFE and I thought it was a writing mistake..... or not?

Can you please clear my mind H3liton?

H3LlIoN · 05-22-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parmas

Sorry I am confused now... does Gude's Head consist of a 1NZFE head or 2AZ-FE head?

On their describtion Gude mentioned 2 times the 2AZFE and I thought it was a writing mistake..... or not?

Can you please clear my mind H3liton?

The head that I ordered is the 1nz-fe head for our cars. (Echo/Prius/Yaris/Gen 1 xB)

He ALSO reworks 2AZ heads (tC), as well as heads for honda, vw, other toyo, etc etc...

H3LlIoN · 05-20-2010, 06:44 PM

Camell...yes. We plugged it in to the computer to see what could be done...it allowed for some basic adjustments of random stuff such as keyless entry and such...it also has tabs for engine stuff, but no access...My official stance after playing around is that the access MIGHT be there, but that it is not accessible at the dealership level. I talked with my tech buddy while I was there, and we agreed that access might be possible with the security "seed," but it is not available at dealership, he has to call toyota. Furthermore, he said that, if he does that, they let him go, and void all the work he's done on anything he may have worked on while employed there. (obviously not an option)

On another side note, there was a new feature available on the techstream that was a recent update...it's a datalogging feature that tracks all engine functions realtime. He had to go out of town, so we're waiting for him to get back before we borrow the computer for the night to log but, as of know, techstream is a no-go unless we can get that security key, which is pretty unlikely. We'll be using the logger both in stock config, and then with the camcon/cams/head/etc...

Black Yaris · 05-20-2010, 07:52 PM

Hmmm... I will have to check in to this... I am sure someone has tried to slap a tc supercharger on a 1az before

Bluevitz-rs · 06-05-2010, 06:01 PM

any updates? did you get it yet?

05-12-2010, 02:15 PM	#1
GnomeBody AD&D Dork Drives: 07Liftback/07sedanS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: US-V.A. Posts: 83	^^^lol your kidding me right?!?! I've never actually bothered to watch them do my state inspection so I wasnt sure... well damn, If thats the case than maybe their's a standalone in my future after all. __________________ Mods: K&N filter, Megan Coilovers, Ultra Racing 19mm rear sway bar, Sun tachometer, Window Tint.

05-20-2010, 01:16 AM	#11
H3LlIoN View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yarrrr hatch Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Midatlantic Posts: 727	So...I got an email from Bill today asking me to confirm my shipping address so...hopefully that means this isn't much longer. In the meantime, here are the baselines, stock config all in one place: 98.93 hp 100.55 tq 16.64 1/4 mile E.T. __________________ Toyota Moving Forward ...even when you don't want it to. Special thanks to Cali Yaris, 1NZYaris1 and lilredrocket

05-20-2010, 06:24 PM	#12
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	Hmm.... wonder if that same 2az head will bolt to my 1az? other thing I wonder is once a 2az head is fitted, would the tC supercharger mount up? __________________

05-20-2010, 06:44 PM	#16
H3LlIoN View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yarrrr hatch Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Midatlantic Posts: 727	Camell...yes. We plugged it in to the computer to see what could be done...it allowed for some basic adjustments of random stuff such as keyless entry and such...it also has tabs for engine stuff, but no access...My official stance after playing around is that the access MIGHT be there, but that it is not accessible at the dealership level. I talked with my tech buddy while I was there, and we agreed that access might be possible with the security "seed," but it is not available at dealership, he has to call toyota. Furthermore, he said that, if he does that, they let him go, and void all the work he's done on anything he may have worked on while employed there. (obviously not an option) On another side note, there was a new feature available on the techstream that was a recent update...it's a datalogging feature that tracks all engine functions realtime. He had to go out of town, so we're waiting for him to get back before we borrow the computer for the night to log but, as of know, techstream is a no-go unless we can get that security key, which is pretty unlikely. We'll be using the logger both in stock config, and then with the camcon/cams/head/etc... __________________ Toyota Moving Forward ...even when you don't want it to. Special thanks to Cali Yaris, 1NZYaris1 and lilredrocket

05-20-2010, 07:52 PM	#17
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	Hmmm... I will have to check in to this... I am sure someone has tried to slap a tc supercharger on a 1az before __________________

05-12-2010, 02:25 PM	#2
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	CTScott has a Techstream. It is not programable, he has tried. Techstream is only meant to reflash the ECU via Toyota TSB's. The reflash cannot be customized. That being said I still want you H3LlIon to try what you can to find a solution. A week ago I found out about the Techstream Lite & spoke to Techstream in detail about this issue. As for the Dezod in Line ECU, a week ago I spoke to both Paul from Dezod & Allan from APR about their unit. They have no intention to make a unit for the Yaris, it is not financially feasible for them. But Paul did say that if I do the leg work in getting some technical specs on the Yaris ECU, he might change his mind. Iv have been working on that for him. The issue is going to be the cost which will be in the $1800-$2000 price range or more. Now I know thats alot of $$$$ & it is not for everyone. This is not going to be for the N/A guy. This is a unit that will be for turbo or S/C. It will be comparable to a AEM EMS. It would be 100% better than a AEM FIC or Emanage. It would be a plug and play unit.

05-12-2010, 02:28 PM	#4
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Also let me add that Dezod has their unit working on the TC & they just got it to work on the xB2.

05-12-2010, 03:32 PM	#5
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	So since there is no threads about CTScott & a Techstream that means the BS flag immediately comes out? I dont get it. I cant speak for him, but I was not going to mention my work with Dezod until I was more advance in the project. I feel now that it would have been a better decision on my part. Im glad you are a "find out for myself" guy, I am also. Please keep on reasearching the possibilities of the Techstream. Im not assuming, Im basing it on historical fact from this forum. Most N/A guys here want $50 headers & $25 intakes.

05-12-2010, 05:27 PM	#8
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	No need for apologies, all is good. Thanks for the offer on the help, Ill keep you in mind for anything I cant figure out. There are two spectrums of N/A, people here will never be like the one you spent time around.

05-12-2010, 05:33 PM	#10
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	You & me both!

06-05-2010, 06:01 PM	#18
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	any updates? did you get it yet?

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