Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Some thing funny happened to me...

I had in my Tacoma a pair of (Pioneer) Premier 6.5 component speakers (not cheap) and guess what? I end up putting back the OEM speakers because they sound much better than the premier, although the OEM speakers from the Tacoma are much better quality than the ones I found in my Yaris.

I didn't know that the Zeus came with a blue LED inside! I'm going to have to play with that!


D.

I would guess the pioneers have a metalic tweet (and lack a good crossover), which may sound a bit harsh, along with a much higher BL on the mid which might (depending on the other T/S specs) lead the an early/fast roll off on the frequency response (for midbass) compared to the oem units. The OEM units are designed to have somewhat weak motor (Bl) and a very slow roll off. They also usually lack a dedicated tweet which gives a much more laid back and anemic sound which isn't desirable, but at least it doesn't make you cringe everytime you hear a cymbal crash.

yeah, you don't get an air filter unless you ask for one... and really... its actually easy enough that i'd tell everybody to replace it themself. I've made my own using giant 3M Filtrete Home Filters, 25,000 miles later and still no problems. You get multiple filters for around $15 that way... if you buy the filters designed for it I believe you pay around $10 a pop at least, and thats for a non-toyota brand.

I actually have been thinking about changing my filter for the past week. I'll probably do it the same day I change my oil filter (doing 10k oil intervals now, with 5k oil filter intervals)

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

I would guess the pioneers have a metalic tweet (and lack a good crossover), which may sound a bit harsh, along with a much higher BL on the mid which might (depending on the other T/S specs) lead the an early/fast roll off on the frequency response (for midbass) compared to the oem units. The OEM units are designed to have somewhat weak motor (Bl) and a very slow roll off. They also usually lack a dedicated tweet which gives a much more laid back and anemic sound which isn't desirable, but at least it doesn't make you cringe everytime you hear a cymbal crash.

The Premier tweeters sound great! not so bad passive crossover, it was the 6.5 drive that was not handling the mid-low frequencies.

Thanks, I learn so much every day even if I only understand half of it! .

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

I'll probably do it the same day I change my oil filter (doing 10k oil intervals now, with 5k oil filter intervals)

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10k oil interval is STUPID.
I don't care if you run a full synthetic.

I've been a mechanic for 25 years.
I've seen engines destroyed because people let their oil go LESS than 10k.

3-4k TOPS. New filter every oil change.

I change my Yaris oil at 3k intervals. I use Castrol GTX oil.

Oil is cheap, your motor is NOT.
Oil breaks down, and it is a suspension for the by-products of combustion.

I seen factory maintenance literature that says oil changes at 5-6k.
Spark plugs at 100k.

Yeah.... they can stick that up their asses.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Alien Mantis

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10k oil interval is STUPID.
I don't care if you run a full synthetic.

I've been a mechanic for 25 years.
I've seen engines destroyed because people let their oil go LESS than 10k.

3-4k TOPS. New filter every oil change.

I change my Yaris oil at 3k intervals. I use Castrol GTX oil.

Oil is cheap, your motor is NOT.
Oil breaks down, and it is a suspension for the by-products of combustion.

I seen factory maintenance literature that says oil changes at 5-6k.
Spark plugs at 100k.

Yeah.... they can stick that up their asses.

got tired of throwing away (recycling) oil that came out the same exact color as when it was poured in. The oil I get is far greater quality than what is needed for 5k. I hear what you say, and have made up my mind, no more is needed to be mentioned about it in this thread... There's no point in debating something that only time... errr... thousands of miles will be able to tell.

next week i'll let you tell me that running 44psi on the tires is stupid too.

[swidd]

Uh, I ran 10,000 miles on mobil 1 extended interval synthetic, and it came out clear as new. Sorry for keeping the subject alive - but I only did it out of lazyness, and value opinions against it. Will probably not do it anymore. Altough that oil is very expensive, it is only a few $ more than regular quality synthetic.

[derickveliz2]

Mmm... I just realized that my Yaris needs new oil and filter.

Thanks

D.

[Alien Mantis]

I know this is getting off-topic, but it is an important issue.

A new Yaris motor is super efficient.
So it will not contaminate oil as fast as other engines can.

The recommended oil weight is 5w-30.
That is a thin oil straight out of the bottle. As it breaks down, it becomes a 0w.
It may not look all that dark, but it will lose it's viscosity properties.

As I get more miles on my Yaris motor, I will switch to a 10w-30, for extra protection of the metal parts.

Yes, you take a tiny gas mileage hit with thicker oil, but it's worth it to protect the engine.

I also live in a hot climate. In a cold climate, 5w-30 would be fine for the life of the engine.

I have no doubt that good oil in a new/low mileage Yaris engine could easily go 4k miles safely. I would NEVER let it go to 10k.
Anywhere between 3-4k is safe. Under 3k is totally wasting good oil.
I have a friend who changes the oil in his Ford Explorer every 2,000 miles. I told him several times to let it go to 3k. He is paranoid, but his engine is totally clean inside, with 76,000 miles on it.
It certainly won't HURT an engine to change the oil at 2,000 miles.... but the reality is: the global oil reserves are going to be DEPLETED in 15-20 years.
Our world leaders are keeping this a secret, because they don't want a total PANIC.

A world without OIL is a fast approaching reality, and currently we have NO ALTERNATIVE energy source to replace fossil fuels.

Oil fields in the USA will be used strictly for military strategic reserves only.

But alas.... I digress.

[sqcomp]

Oh...you so silly! You mean I've been over in Iraq for black gold? Say it ain't so! :P

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Oh...you so silly! You mean I've been over in Iraq for black gold? Say it ain't so! :P

Ask the BILDERBERGERS.

( just don't expect the truth out of them )

When you join the military, do you not take an OATH to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC?

Seems like we have lots of "domestic enemies of the Constitution" right here in our own government. They have been there for a long time actually.

( Maybe you guys are shooting at the wrong targets? )

But alas.... I digress yet again.

[swidd]

If you're looking for cheap uranium, you should have invaded Kazakhstan instead.

[sqcomp]

We got Borat already didn't we?

[derickveliz2]

The noise increased so much by driving without the glove compartment, no left seat and naked door, I'm using as a reference the numbers of the volume with my HU, before this condition listening to music at volume 10 was no problem 20 was nice and 30 is as good as it gets, after that it just distortion all the way up to 62/max; today 10 was impossible, 20 not enough and 30 was OK but not loud enough to overcome the noise from the road (highway speeds 70mph average).

I should get my new shoes next week, winter tires on OEM wheels will go to storage, I guess noise coming from the snow tires will play a big factor as well.

I need to take the OEM's deadening before I start with the floor with a heat gun, if it gets too messy I'll use dry ice, or last case I'll just leave it there. )o:

D.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

The noise increased so much by driving without the glove compartment, no left seat and naked door, I'm using as a reference the numbers of the volume with my HU, before this condition listening to music at volume 10 was no problem 20 was nice and 30 is as good as it gets, after that it just distortion all the way up to 62/max; today 10 was impossible, 20 not enough and 30 was OK but not loud enough to overcome the noise from the road (highway speeds 70mph average).

I should get my new shoes next week, winter tires on OEM wheels will go to storage, I guess noise coming from the snow tires will play a big factor as well.

I need to take the OEM's deadening before I start with the floor with a heat gun, if it gets too messy I'll use dry ice, or last case I'll just leave it there. )o:

D.

Yeah, I remember putting one or two layers on the console area as well.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

Yeah, I remember putting one or two layers on the console area as well.

Not there yet, all that area scares me, same for the headliner.




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[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Not there yet, all that area scares me, same for the headliner.




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I've never done a headliner... and don't even know if it's worth my time in the yaris... such a small roof, and it's slightly curved. When it rains, I hear the noise coming from the drops hitting the windshield, not from the roof.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

I've never done a headliner... and don't even know if it's worth my time in the yaris... such a small roof, and it's slightly curved. When it rains, I hear the noise coming from the drops hitting the windshield, not from the roof.

"Sqcomp" is going to do it, I hope he is going to show us how to do it, in my case I would like to do it and I only need to apply a few CLD Tiles to control the resonance of the roof, so I guess I don't have to take it all off, just loose it up on the edges 1 at a time to reach the flat areas of sheet metal and I'll be done.

As I'm writing here I'm building my cabin air filter


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[derickveliz2]

Today's ride was LOUD!!! some thoughts about this stage...

1. I did try heating up the OEM patches and removed with a screw driver, hard I couldn't find my putty knife. I'm really only going to do it on the flat surfaces, then add CLD Tiles.

2. I may kill rear vent, not sure but it may make my HVAC more efficient in front and may make my life easier in this process.

3. Center console, lost of noise from the 5 speed mechanism, I'm going to try to add CCF and some MLV probably it wouldn't hurt to add some kind of grease to smooth all moving parts, we'll see.

4. Today I'm going to try to get my main power wire through Firewall.

5. My wife is concern that I'm driving my car in such conditions, she suggested that I should get it done sooner than later! Yeah!!! I have a big excuse to work more in my car.


I'm guessing that SQcomp it's joining us today, is that right? are you near your Yaris now?


More soon...


D.


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[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Today's ride was LOUD!!! some thoughts about this stage...

1. I did try heating up the OEM patches and removed with a screw driver, hard I couldn't find my putty knife. I'm really only going to do it on the flat surfaces, then add CLD Tiles.

2. I may kill rear vent, not sure but it may make my HVAC more efficient in front and may make my life easier in this process.

3. Center console, lost of noise from the 5 speed mechanism, I'm going to try to add CCF and some MLV probably it wouldn't hurt to add some kind of grease to smooth all moving parts, we'll see.

4. Today I'm going to try to get my main power wire through Firewall.

5. My wife is concern that I'm driving my car in such conditions, she suggested that I should get it done sooner than later! Yeah!!! I have a big excuse to work more in my car.


I'm guessing that SQcomp it's joining us today, is that right? are you near your Yaris now?


More soon...


D.


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Soon, I thought he said the 20th... soon tho.