Need Help Figuring this out - Toyota Yaris Forums

CanadianHiFive2 · 04-25-2009, 09:03 PM

Ok so today, I was at the local audio store looking at some stuff and when i went to my car the door opened with the auto key and then when i go to start the ignition, car wont start! I wait 2 minutes and nothing still. The only thing i have hooked up to my battery is a 200 Watt amp. I went and unhooked the amp and the car started! What could be going on? The amp is wired so that it only turns on when the head unit turns on and im using an 8 guage wire to hook it up from the + end of the battery to the amp

Any ideas

Tamago · 04-25-2009, 09:31 PM

double check your grounds.. did you fuse the power wire going to the amp?

CanadianHiFive2 · 04-25-2009, 10:04 PM

Ya there is a 60A fuse running close to the battery and the ground is connected to a screw i found in my trunk

wsladaritz · 04-25-2009, 10:31 PM

Did you sand the area around that screw for the ground? May not be getting good contact if there's paint in the way.

CanadianHiFive2 · 04-26-2009, 12:05 AM

I believe it is grounded properly cause this only happened twice so far and the amp has been in there for 4 months

CanadianHiFive2 · 04-26-2009, 12:22 AM

would it be possible that water was touching the positive part of the battery and shorting it out?

wsladaritz · 04-29-2009, 02:43 AM

maybe... i'm not really sure about that though. It would have to be enough water to allow the positive and negative sides to touch... i think.

CanadianHiFive2 · 04-29-2009, 03:52 AM

ok so it happened again today except i actually needed a boost to get it started and then when i shut it off i needed another boost! Im starting to think i need a new battery? What do u think any suggestions on a specific type

battleversiontc · 04-29-2009, 05:49 AM

i think you need a new battery or alt not working so good

sqcomp · 04-29-2009, 01:15 PM

Take the fuse out of the power line on the amplifier so that it doesn't turn on. If you're at an audio shop, they should have a battery charger hanging around somewhere. What I'd do is to ask them to hook up the car's battery and charge it for a while. Now, if you take the car off the charger and it dies after a little while AFTER YOU ARE ABLE TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER...you'll probably notice that you have a nasty rough idle...your alternator is dead.

The dealership SHOULD be able to replace the alternator under warranty. Just make sure they know that the sound system is fused and grounded properly so they can't bite you in the a$$ saying that it was the system that caused the alternator failiure. I honestly can't see a Toyota dealer doing that the first time you bring it in though.

wsladaritz · 04-29-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

The dealership SHOULD be able to replace the alternator under warranty. Just make sure they know that the sound system is fused and grounded properly so they can't bite you in the a$$ saying that it was the system that caused the alternator failiure. I honestly can't see a Toyota dealer doing that the first time you bring it in though.

I can see that happening... I don't what toyota is like elsewhere, but here in East Texas they're a bunch a douche bags! It took me four trips up there after I bought my car to finally figure out they weren't gonna help me with shit after they made the sale... I kept thinking if I talked to a different person up there they would be more helpful or understanding. I was wrong

Sorry... not tryin to hijack the thread!

*climbs down off soap box*

wsladaritz · 04-29-2009, 07:27 PM

do what sqcomp said though, I think he's got the right idea.

sqcomp · 04-30-2009, 02:48 AM

That $ucks to hear about the dealership! You should run the car through the front window of the dealership and start taking hostages!

Juuuuuuuuuuusst kidding.

wsladaritz · 04-30-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That $ucks to hear about the dealership! You should run the car through the front window of the dealership and start taking hostages!

Juuuuuuuuuuusst kidding.

hmmm.... that sounds like it might be fun! If there was like a rewind button or something

sqcomp · 05-01-2009, 03:07 AM

hey Canadian...

What is the fuse rating on the amplifier? Aside from that it really sounds like your alternator quit on you.

04-25-2009, 09:03 PM	#1
CanadianHiFive2 Drives: Sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 21	Need Help Figuring this out Ok so today, I was at the local audio store looking at some stuff and when i went to my car the door opened with the auto key and then when i go to start the ignition, car wont start! I wait 2 minutes and nothing still. The only thing i have hooked up to my battery is a 200 Watt amp. I went and unhooked the amp and the car started! What could be going on? The amp is wired so that it only turns on when the head unit turns on and im using an 8 guage wire to hook it up from the + end of the battery to the amp Any ideas

04-29-2009, 05:49 AM	#9
battleversiontc View User's Garage Drives: 08 vip yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 808 Posts: 501	i think you need a new battery or alt not working so good __________________ 08 junction produce belta almost done and ready for paint 06 junction produce tc 604 bhp 445tq ddriven still trying for 700+hp 90 crx sir ls vtec turbo 755 hp mecp masters certified

04-29-2009, 01:15 PM	#10
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Take the fuse out of the power line on the amplifier so that it doesn't turn on. If you're at an audio shop, they should have a battery charger hanging around somewhere. What I'd do is to ask them to hook up the car's battery and charge it for a while. Now, if you take the car off the charger and it dies after a little while AFTER YOU ARE ABLE TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER...you'll probably notice that you have a nasty rough idle...your alternator is dead. The dealership SHOULD be able to replace the alternator under warranty. Just make sure they know that the sound system is fused and grounded properly so they can't bite you in the a$$ saying that it was the system that caused the alternator failiure. I honestly can't see a Toyota dealer doing that the first time you bring it in though. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-30-2009, 02:48 AM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	That $ucks to hear about the dealership! You should run the car through the front window of the dealership and start taking hostages! Juuuuuuuuuuusst kidding. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

05-01-2009, 03:07 AM	#15
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	hey Canadian... What is the fuse rating on the amplifier? Aside from that it really sounds like your alternator quit on you. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

04-25-2009, 10:04 PM	#3
CanadianHiFive2 Drives: Sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 21	Ya there is a 60A fuse running close to the battery and the ground is connected to a screw i found in my trunk

04-25-2009, 10:31 PM	#4
wsladaritz Y4R1Z View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 219	Did you sand the area around that screw for the ground? May not be getting good contact if there's paint in the way.

04-26-2009, 12:05 AM	#5
CanadianHiFive2 Drives: Sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 21	I believe it is grounded properly cause this only happened twice so far and the amp has been in there for 4 months

04-26-2009, 12:22 AM	#6
CanadianHiFive2 Drives: Sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 21	would it be possible that water was touching the positive part of the battery and shorting it out?

04-29-2009, 02:43 AM	#7
wsladaritz Y4R1Z View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 219	maybe... i'm not really sure about that though. It would have to be enough water to allow the positive and negative sides to touch... i think.

04-29-2009, 03:52 AM	#8
CanadianHiFive2 Drives: Sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 21	ok so it happened again today except i actually needed a boost to get it started and then when i shut it off i needed another boost! Im starting to think i need a new battery? What do u think any suggestions on a specific type

04-29-2009, 07:27 PM	#12
wsladaritz Y4R1Z View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 219	do what sqcomp said though, I think he's got the right idea.

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