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Old 07-17-2007, 11:06 AM   #1
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consider it as just a good excuse to the SO to get a custom paint job in the near future
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:11 AM   #2
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With the money you save in gas, you can afford a new paint job. One to your liking and maybe a color Toyota has yet to offer.

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Old 07-17-2007, 11:21 AM   #3
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People complain about the paint on the Scions, Hondas, etc. That would be the least of my worries. As far as the CR thing goes, I think CR is BS.

Drive the Yaris, drive the Fit, Versa, Accent, Rio, Aveo, xB, xA or whatever other cars you're looking it.

I don't care how loyal a person is to a brand -- you should always shop the competition, IMHO.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:24 AM   #4
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I didn't buy a Yaris for its paint job or CR rating. I bought it for 40 MPG. I get 40 MPG. I'm a happy camper. You would be too if you stopped thinking about it and just bought the damn thing.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:59 PM   #5
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I didn't buy a Yaris for its paint job or CR rating. I bought it for 40 MPG. I get 40 MPG. I'm a happy camper. You would be too if you stopped thinking about it and just bought the damn thing.
I guess I don't have as leasurely of an approach as you do when it comes to making a $12-$15K purchase. I've gotta KNOW it's what I want before I commit to a purchase that substantial.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:45 AM   #6
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Yup, for a car that's as "cheap as chips" it's a remarkable little performer, well mannered, fuel efficient, and functional, with Toyota quality and reliability to boot!

Can't beat that combo!
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:59 AM   #7
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The Yaris is a cheap car.

It's not a BMW with a 12 year unlimited miles rust protection etc.

If you want better paint you have to buy a more expensive car. All cars in this pricing segment and up will have paint problems.

If you want a terrific value and a great, basic all around car get a Yaris, and you'll be happy. If you worry more about quality than value, save up your money and buy a Lexus or BMW.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:04 PM   #8
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Before tires and suspension upgrades, I remember getting blown around on the interstate. It works so well now that I had almost forgotten it ever happened.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:04 PM   #9
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Paint quality really isn't the main reason I've become leary, it just adds to it. Since I haven't read what CR said about the Yaris myself, I can only go by what others have said about what CR said. I think CR's main complaint was regarding the handling of the Yaris at highway speeds, particularly during windy/turbulant conditions. I have test driven a LB, but the amount of time I spent at higway speeds was limited to only about 2 or 3 minutes and it really wasn't very windy that day and I didn't encounter any semis to find out how wind/tubulance effects it. Since most of my driving is highway, it's important that I get a vehicle that can handle highway driving without being a handful for the driver, but I also need something that gets excellent fuel economy because I put 2500-3000 miles on my car per month.
the yaris definitely gets tossed around a little bit in a crosswind, but so does every other car that is light with a high profile.
i've driven my friend's honda fit in the same conditions with the same result.

all i do is slowdown to the speed limit and it is fine, pushing the car in these conditions is what makes it not safe.

much has been said of the poor reviews the yaris has recieved, you would do well to take them with a grain of salt because this is a great little car that will get the best fuel economy of any in it's class and will not be spending much time in the shop and it's also one of the most affordable.

that's what a yaris is, it isn't a porsche.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:11 PM   #10
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I highly suggest going back for another test drive. Spend some more time on the highway with it. Remember: you're the one spending the money, and you should be able to test drive this car as long as you want.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:09 PM   #11
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My plan is to see if I can get the use of a LB for an entire day to really get a feel for the car. If I can find a dealer that's willing to let me take one for a day, or if I can find a car rental place that rents the LB, I'm sure then I'll be able to find out if I want one of not.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:02 PM   #12
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My plan is to see if I can get the use of a LB for an entire day to really get a feel for the car. If I can find a dealer that's willing to let me take one for a day, or if I can find a car rental place that rents the LB, I'm sure then I'll be able to find out if I want one of not.

Your dealer should have a "demonstrator" that they can lend out if you put a deposit on a new one with a subject clause stating that it is subject to your test drive.

I have driven (all the competition) prior to working for TOYOTA and I know I made the right choice in getting the Yaris.

Versa - Made in Mexico ('nuff said)

Fit - narrow front wide rear - lights colour coded to car (ugly) and did not drive as nice as the Yaris. Maintenance is higher on Honda vs TOYOTA

Hyundai - to big for what I wanted and Yaris beats in both quality and reliability

Smart - too small, great mileage, just did not feel safe

Suzuki - well... it's a Suzuki (could not bring myself to drive it)

I did not take the decision lightly... But it definitely is the best car in its class in my opinion.

Good luck, grampi.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:15 PM   #13
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Versa - Made in Mexico ('nuff said)


I don't believe the Versa's problem is that it's made in Mexico. Ask the millions of satisfied VW costumers if they think their car is crap because of where it was made.
A car's quality goes well beyond where the manufacturing plants reside. Mid-priced Nissan's have a history of shoddy quality components, and it usually shows.

There are a few reasons why Mexico is quickly becoming one of the premier vehicle manufacturing countries in the world. So do your homework and stop spreading FUD just for the hell of it. Please use your brain before you post next time.
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:01 PM   #14
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I don't believe the Versa's problem is that it's made in Mexico. Ask the millions of satisfied VW costumers if they think their car is crap because of where it was made.
A car's quality goes well beyond where the manufacturing plants reside. Mid-priced Nissan's have a history of shoddy quality components, and it usually shows.

There are a few reasons why Mexico is quickly becoming one of the premier vehicle manufacturing countries in the world. So do your homework and stop spreading FUD just for the hell of it. Please use your brain before you post next time.
However, it's no secret that VW's are plagued with quality problems, which probably have little to do with place of manufacture.
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However, it's no secret that VW's are plagued with quality problems, which probably have little to do with place of manufacture.
My point exactly.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:47 PM   #16
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I have zero issues with crosswinds. My car feels excellent on the highway. Sometimes I may feel a little something when passing an 18 wheeler or something, but other than that though, no problems. I'm lowered with stock tires.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:55 PM   #17
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I've had no problems on the highway.. actually my boyfriend drove it that one time.. and he was going 90! and it was smooth as ever. I don't remember having much problems with having a truck pass it but it's probably because all cars gets a bit tossed around if a truck passes by at high speeds.

Plus I live in the windy city! haha. I've seen users complainin that it's a death trap and how they've had horror stories driving on highway or whatnot but those are probably just the people who do not know how to drive properly
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:05 PM   #18
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Actually, the CR review of the LB Yaris was good...how can anyone complain about CR's review? It was not 100% highest score across all categories, but it was very, very good.

CR uses very scientific methods when reviewing cars. They are 100% trustworthy.....but talk to someone that owns a BS car which received a poor score, and they will say CR is bias, or their methods are not scientific, and other BS......sore losers, to be sure.

Grampi, the Yaris scored very well. True the Yaris paint is mediocre at best, but then so is the paint on perhaps 90% of all Japanese models. Domestic cars still have the better paint then the Japanese...my fords had much much better paint then any of my Hondas and Toyotas.
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