manual trans fluid - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

nsmitchell · 08-14-2007, 11:11 AM

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?

ttufrosty · 08-15-2007, 12:51 AM

I too am looking to go to AMsoil 75W-90, I did find these two topics on the Scions. At least they are a starting point on what to do if you need a visual reference.

Changing an Xb
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...0Oil%20Change/

Changing a tC
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=120673

Black Yaris · 08-15-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?

Don't know what kind of manuals you drove but every manual I know of either takes gear lube (75w-90, 75w-140, etc), or many mazda/ford manual trannys actually take ATF.

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Originally Posted by ttufrosty

I too am looking to go to AMsoil 75W-90, I did find these two topics on the Scions. At least they are a starting point on what to do if you need a visual reference.

Changing an Xb
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...0Oil%20Change/

Changing a tC
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=120673

I just changed mine to Amsoil as well, after I got my car up on ramps and saw the large fill and drain plugs plainly labled "see owners manual before refilling"... it was a simple job with the beer bong funnel to fill her up...

ttufrosty · 08-15-2007, 01:39 AM

Here is another topic from Scionlife with lots of info on changing the manual tranny fluid as well as info on particular gear oil to use.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...n+oil&&start=0

hystria · 08-15-2007, 07:44 PM

Syncromesh Friction Modified sell by GM for manual Corvette transmissions will help having smoother gear shifting after a while

WolfWings · 08-24-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Don't know what kind of manuals you drove but every manual I know of either takes gear lube (75w-90, 75w-140, etc), or many mazda/ford manual trannys actually take ATF.

3rd-gen Civic manual transmissions specified 30W engine-oil for the transmission, actually. Not 10W-30, 30W. And not gear oil, motor oil. Single-grade motor oil, in a transmission. Still want one of those again.

They also happened to specify that for the engine itself as an option in climates that didn't get below 20F/-7C, so on my '86 Civic I had straight 30W oil in the entire vehicle.

WolfWings · 01-14-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?

Hell, old 3rd-gen Civic manual transmissions recommended 30W engine oil in the transmission, and the engine if you lived in temperate and mild climates. Made it insanely-cheap to just change all the fluids every oil change, since 30W is just about bottom-barrel for price.

JosephDoc · 08-23-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blacksan

Manual Transmission,.....GL-5
All TEMPS......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube

-------------------------- Thanks for the backing up.

I thought I've used the wrong oil.

I just did my first oil change @ 2k miles. I replaced both motor and transaxle (manual transmission) fluids @ 2k miles since my wife is a stick-shift noob and I feel secured to get it done early.

I use "Eneos-0w20" for motor oil, and "AMS SEVERE GEAR Synth 75-90" for the tranny. Why? Don't ask but let me finish... I know Eneos' quality and I am a JDM fan, but since Eneos has not released their 75w90 in USA so I pick the best by AMS.

But why sever-duty grade in a little Yaris? I was not so sure but it was recommended by a good friend who works in the parts store. So the truth is on all newer Toyotas, the manual tranny does require GL4 or GL5 fluids as it says in Techinfo-Toyota. I could not find out more support material about AMS's "SEVERE GEAR Synth 75-90" but I guess I have to trust good friends' advise when I am not a pro at it. With or without the servere-grade label, I pick the servere grade since I notice frequently I push the car a bit harder than my other cars since the Yaris has a small engine.

Now the car runs much smoother and overall vibration has clammed down a lot. It works!! I am also expecting to see some gaining in MGP in next few weeks.

Black Yaris · 08-24-2007, 12:50 AM

Joseph.... I have found that if you are pushing the car every now and again. 0w20 is no good.... the 20 weight is a little too thin... need to go to 0w30 if you are harder on your car, that is what I am now running, I had to change the 0w20 early because it was so dark, yes it was full synth.... after doing a little more reading online 0w30 is the way to go, it is actually the #1 recommended replacment oil for cars that came with 5w30 from the factory

jkuchta · 01-06-2009, 06:41 PM

The redline is a GL-4, and is designed specifically for Toyota synchros.

1stToyota · 01-06-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jkuchta

The redline is a GL-4, and is designed specifically for Toyota synchros.

Is it really?
On their site I'm seeing 75w-90 and 75w-90 NS, both listed as GL-5. I really didn't study what they claimed about the 75w-90, but the 75w-90 NS shows to work in transmissions, as well as differentials. If they had a 3rd choice of a GL-4 75w-90 I guess I didn't find it.

mikenacarato · 01-06-2009, 07:31 PM

the royal purple 75w90 oil we use in our differentials at work in semi trucks is the same stuff i used in my yaris. its max life 75w90 which i believe is what other royal purple useres used.

jkuchta · 01-06-2009, 07:34 PM

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

gid · 01-06-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jkuchta

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

is GL-4 . Says it on the bottle as well . Otherwise I wouldn't use it .

1stToyota · 01-07-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jkuchta

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

Thanks. We're gettin' things done now. That's three synthetic 75W-90s that we know for sure are GL-4 rated: Redline MT-90, AMSOIL's transmission/transaxle fluid, Pennzoil's GL-4 75W-90

metalshark · 02-13-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jkuchta

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

+1. Shifts better, better mileage. GL-5 has more extreme pressure additives for hypoid gears than can rob mileage.

Chupacabra · 01-07-2009, 11:56 AM

After putting the MT-90 in nearly all my cars...I highly recommend it in the Yaris. The shifts are like butter now (especially reverse).

gid · 01-07-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

After putting the MT-90 in nearly all my cars...I highly recommend it in the Yaris. The shifts are like butter now (especially reverse).

what other vehicles you have ?

08-24-2007, 12:50 AM	#9
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	Joseph.... I have found that if you are pushing the car every now and again. 0w20 is no good.... the 20 weight is a little too thin... need to go to 0w30 if you are harder on your car, that is what I am now running, I had to change the 0w20 early because it was so dark, yes it was full synth.... after doing a little more reading online 0w30 is the way to go, it is actually the #1 recommended replacment oil for cars that came with 5w30 from the factory __________________

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08-14-2007, 11:11 AM	#1
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick? __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

08-15-2007, 12:51 AM	#2
ttufrosty Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: DFW, USA Posts: 50	I too am looking to go to AMsoil 75W-90, I did find these two topics on the Scions. At least they are a starting point on what to do if you need a visual reference. Changing an Xb http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...0Oil%20Change/ Changing a tC http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=120673

08-15-2007, 01:39 AM	#4
ttufrosty Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: DFW, USA Posts: 50	Here is another topic from Scionlife with lots of info on changing the manual tranny fluid as well as info on particular gear oil to use. http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...n+oil&&start=0

08-15-2007, 07:44 PM	#5
hystria Drives: 2007 Orange Yaris Hb 3Drs Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montreal-Canada Posts: 262	Syncromesh Friction Modified sell by GM for manual Corvette transmissions will help having smoother gear shifting after a while

01-06-2009, 06:41 PM	#10
jkuchta View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris hatch (red) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L.A. Posts: 557	The redline is a GL-4, and is designed specifically for Toyota synchros.

01-06-2009, 07:31 PM	#12
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	the royal purple 75w90 oil we use in our differentials at work in semi trucks is the same stuff i used in my yaris. its max life 75w90 which i believe is what other royal purple useres used.

01-06-2009, 07:34 PM	#13
jkuchta View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris hatch (red) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L.A. Posts: 557	1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

01-07-2009, 11:56 AM	#17
Chupacabra Banned Drives: 2009 Yaris liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Posts: 350	After putting the MT-90 in nearly all my cars...I highly recommend it in the Yaris. The shifts are like butter now (especially reverse).