ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 15 - Toyota Yaris Forums

onizuka · 03-11-2011, 09:36 PM

This thread is getting VERY interesting. Yes, I am the original owner of this thread. Back in 2008, I was complaining about how my sensor failed in 2007 on one side, and 2008 on the other. Today as temperature is warming up, guess what...my sensors failed again. Back in 2008, I got them replaced by Toyota. It appears that the new/modified/improved/watever sensor hardness is no more protection than the original one. My car has only 130000km, not bad for a car that is purchased since 2005. This is my first and my last Toyota!

stuffy · 03-12-2011, 03:31 PM

i just discovered this problem on my car this winter, occassionally the two lights would come on and the abs would be disengaged.

we had A LOT of snow this winter so i thought maybe snow was getting packed in around the sensor or something, the problem went away for a long time but now that it's getting warmer it's actually getting worse.

my car is an 06 with 125,000 kms on it

derickveliz2 · 03-14-2011, 03:09 PM

As soon as I posted on this thread my lights went off, so "no problema"

D.

s2kap1 · 03-15-2011, 06:23 PM

sh!t happen to me today,abs+hand brake lights go on

06 HB RS , will Toyota will fix the problems with NO charge

devinlamothe · 03-16-2011, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2kap1

sh!t happen to me today,abs+hand brake lights go on

06 HB RS , will Toyota will fix the problems with NO charge

Good luck with that. I think both sides are a $1000-1200 repair.

stuffy · 03-16-2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

As soon as I posted on this thread my lights went off, so "no problema"

D.

it will probably come back on...mine did the same thing

i talked to toyota canada...apparently they have no idea of such a problem with the yaris
called my dealership and they are definitely aware of an issue, they said it's possibly moisture getting into the sensors, i have an appt on friday so i'll see

onizuka · 03-16-2011, 11:24 PM

Toyota is in full denial mode on this issue. Just like they did on the accelerator problem on Camrys and Lexus. How can they not know about this issue? the parts are in constant backorders...."geeezz...why would this parts becoming so popular? as popular as the Netz emblems..."

derickveliz2 · 03-17-2011, 12:11 AM

I'm about to remove the camber kit in the rear axle, so I have to disconnect the ABS "Again"! (I've done it at least half a dozen times.

It's very easy to do, but it's very easy to break them too.

D.

yaris2010RS · 03-17-2011, 12:23 AM

hey...if the issue is the connector cant u cut them off and hard wire them together?

derickveliz2 · 03-17-2011, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

hey...if the issue is the connector cant u cut them off and hard wire them together?

Yes it could be done, I would like hear TCScott's opinion first.

Once I pulled too hard and I end up with 2 single wires in my hand, put them back in and it was ok. I was ready to cut and solder the wires my self.

D.

Duncan Ashworth · 07-28-2011, 10:34 AM

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

devinlamothe · 07-29-2011, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Ashworth

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

Good luck with Transport Canada - I filed almost a year ago and got no response.

My ABS lights have been on for a couple of years now ... I don't really care to spend $$$ to fix this.

If you find a way to solder them directly to the hub without damaging anything, can you please post some pics of what you've done? I would like to do the same and then apply a crap-ton of weather proof silicone to seal the bugger.

"G" · 07-29-2011, 07:56 PM

In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.

auxmike · 03-17-2011, 12:58 AM

Glad I don't have ABS on mine, seems like a big hassel...

Dave · 03-17-2011, 05:11 PM

How would hardwiring around the sensor solve the problem?

Maybe I'm not understanding your idea properly.

It seems to me that if you were to do that, you'd still be driving a car without a functioning speed sensor that no longer has ABS. You might as well just pull the fuse and not cut any wires. I'd hate to have to explain to my insurance company that I got in an accident because I cut a bunch of wires off my brakes.

WeeYari · 03-17-2011, 05:20 PM

speed sensor -> connector -> wires

proposed solution:

speed sensor -> wires

Since the issue is corrosion in the connector, the idea put forth by yaris2010RS is to directly bypass the connector and hard wire direct to the sensor.

Dave · 03-17-2011, 05:52 PM

Riiiiight. Sorry, it's been a long day. My bad.

stuffy · 03-17-2011, 11:07 PM

i'm writing a letter to the wheels section of the toronto star regarding this, perhaps if more of us did that we would get some attention and therefore action from toyota canada.

here's the email for the editorial staff of the wheels section if anyone else feels so inclined:
wheels@thestar.ca

03-14-2011, 03:09 PM	#3
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	As soon as I posted on this thread my lights went off, so "no problema" D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-17-2011, 12:11 AM	#8
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I'm about to remove the camber kit in the rear axle, so I have to disconnect the ABS "Again"! (I've done it at least half a dozen times. It's very easy to do, but it's very easy to break them too. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-17-2011, 12:23 AM	#9
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,886	hey...if the issue is the connector cant u cut them off and hard wire them together? __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

07-28-2011, 10:34 AM	#11
Duncan Ashworth I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Caledon, On. Posts: 1	Unsafe 07 Yaris Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

03-17-2011, 12:58 AM	#14
auxmike Drives: 2008 HB, A/T, Power W/L/M Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, New Yawk Posts: 2,063	Glad I don't have ABS on mine, seems like a big hassel... __________________ Never take eyes off opponent - Bruce Lee

03-11-2011, 09:36 PM	#1
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	This thread is getting VERY interesting. Yes, I am the original owner of this thread. Back in 2008, I was complaining about how my sensor failed in 2007 on one side, and 2008 on the other. Today as temperature is warming up, guess what...my sensors failed again. Back in 2008, I got them replaced by Toyota. It appears that the new/modified/improved/watever sensor hardness is no more protection than the original one. My car has only 130000km, not bad for a car that is purchased since 2005. This is my first and my last Toyota!

03-12-2011, 03:31 PM	#2
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i just discovered this problem on my car this winter, occassionally the two lights would come on and the abs would be disengaged. we had A LOT of snow this winter so i thought maybe snow was getting packed in around the sensor or something, the problem went away for a long time but now that it's getting warmer it's actually getting worse. my car is an 06 with 125,000 kms on it

03-15-2011, 06:23 PM	#4
s2kap1 Drives: 10@4run Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: montreal Posts: 6	sh!t happen to me today,abs+hand brake lights go on 06 HB RS , will Toyota will fix the problems with NO charge

03-16-2011, 11:24 PM	#7
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	Toyota is in full denial mode on this issue. Just like they did on the accelerator problem on Camrys and Lexus. How can they not know about this issue? the parts are in constant backorders...."geeezz...why would this parts becoming so popular? as popular as the Netz emblems..."

07-29-2011, 07:56 PM	#13
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.

03-17-2011, 05:11 PM	#15
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	How would hardwiring around the sensor solve the problem? Maybe I'm not understanding your idea properly. It seems to me that if you were to do that, you'd still be driving a car without a functioning speed sensor that no longer has ABS. You might as well just pull the fuse and not cut any wires. I'd hate to have to explain to my insurance company that I got in an accident because I cut a bunch of wires off my brakes.

03-17-2011, 05:20 PM	#16
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 5dr LE (deceased), 13 Soul Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,827	speed sensor -> connector -> wires proposed solution: speed sensor -> wires Since the issue is corrosion in the connector, the idea put forth by yaris2010RS is to directly bypass the connector and hard wire direct to the sensor. __________________

03-17-2011, 05:52 PM	#17
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	Riiiiight. Sorry, it's been a long day. My bad.

03-17-2011, 11:07 PM	#18
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i'm writing a letter to the wheels section of the toronto star regarding this, perhaps if more of us did that we would get some attention and therefore action from toyota canada. here's the email for the editorial staff of the wheels section if anyone else feels so inclined: wheels@thestar.ca