ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 18 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Duncan Ashworth · 07-28-2011, 11:34 AM

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

devinlamothe · 07-29-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncan Ashworth

Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

Good luck with Transport Canada - I filed almost a year ago and got no response.

My ABS lights have been on for a couple of years now ... I don't really care to spend $$$ to fix this.

If you find a way to solder them directly to the hub without damaging anything, can you please post some pics of what you've done? I would like to do the same and then apply a crap-ton of weather proof silicone to seal the bugger.

"G" · 07-29-2011, 08:56 PM

In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.

auxmike · 03-17-2011, 01:58 AM

Glad I don't have ABS on mine, seems like a big hassel...

Dave · 03-17-2011, 06:11 PM

How would hardwiring around the sensor solve the problem?

Maybe I'm not understanding your idea properly.

It seems to me that if you were to do that, you'd still be driving a car without a functioning speed sensor that no longer has ABS. You might as well just pull the fuse and not cut any wires. I'd hate to have to explain to my insurance company that I got in an accident because I cut a bunch of wires off my brakes.

WeeYari · 03-17-2011, 06:20 PM

speed sensor -> connector -> wires

proposed solution:

speed sensor -> wires

Since the issue is corrosion in the connector, the idea put forth by yaris2010RS is to directly bypass the connector and hard wire direct to the sensor.

Dave · 03-17-2011, 06:52 PM

Riiiiight. Sorry, it's been a long day. My bad.

stuffy · 03-18-2011, 12:07 AM

i'm writing a letter to the wheels section of the toronto star regarding this, perhaps if more of us did that we would get some attention and therefore action from toyota canada.

here's the email for the editorial staff of the wheels section if anyone else feels so inclined:
wheels@thestar.ca

stuffy · 03-25-2011, 05:09 PM

after a couple of calls to the service manager of my dealership and toyota canada, they ended up covering 80% of the price to replace the faulty sensor and wiring harness on my yaris,
so it cost $75 plus the initial $50 diagnostic (this is for the one side only).

while i was happy that it did not cost $416 like i was quoted i'm still not entirely satisfied as i think this is a defective part.
i think there's a good chance the other side will eventually go as well so i'm wondering if they will hand me the same token for that one?

N9QGS · 03-25-2011, 08:25 PM

I went to my tire place, they checked all connections; they saw nothing worth alarming, and it only came on one more time after this and now the weather is warmer, it has not returned. I do expect to see it next winter, and I will get it taken care of at that time.

PrincessKay · 05-12-2011, 10:44 AM

Both of my lights are on as well - somewhat of a comfort to know that I'm not the only one.

I drive an '07 RS HB. I have to go in tomorrow for service so I will talk to them about it then. This really should be a recall...

sternz · 05-15-2011, 10:09 AM

I'm having the problem as well, it started happening this past winter. I cleaned the rear sensors and applied Dielectric Tune-up Grease and still have the lights on. I really don't want to have to pay anything to have this problem fixed, since it should be recalled. I'm very disappointed Toyota has done nothing for their clients. Worst part is that unless the design for the sensors themselves are not changed, it will just keep us all going back to the shop.

I contacted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm

I urge those in the US to do the same.

devinlamothe · 05-21-2011, 12:30 AM

I've tried almost everything to get Toyota to do SOMETHING about this, but unless I pay them to do the repair they won't budge. Toyota Canada is crap when trying to get anything.

They should have really had a recall for this issue since it's happening to more and more people.

I just leave the lights on the dash on, I don't care any more since they keep coming back on.

derickveliz2 · 05-21-2011, 09:25 AM

They turn on and off all the time, specially when wet.

D.

Mikeey01nzl · 05-28-2011, 12:10 AM

Okay now I'm really confused...

ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumpered 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times.
None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about?

derickveliz2 · 05-28-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeey01nzl

Okay now I'm really confused...

ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumper 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times.
None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about?

I'm sorry if I'm been naive here, but what does it means to " I jumper 4 & 13"

D.

Mikeey01nzl · 05-28-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I'm sorry if I'm been naive here, but what does it means to " I jumper 4 & 13"D.

Short the two terminals... read this excellent post by C T Scott for more info
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...&postcount=262

So back to my orginal question chaps.... what the heck is 49 or 94 flashes on the ABS light really mean?

Mikeey01nzl · 03-13-2012, 03:47 AM

I gave up and took it to the dealer...

They diagnosed two codes.
CO278 open circuit in ABS solenoid relay
CI249 open circuit in stop light switch circuit

x1 new stop light switch ($118.30nzd +tax)

I found the same part available #8434019025 from the states for $24.22, god we get ripped for parts here in New Zealand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeey01nzl

Okay now I'm really confused...

ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumpered 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times.
None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about?

07-28-2011, 11:34 AM	#1
Duncan Ashworth I've made a post! Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Caledon, On. Posts: 1	Unsafe 07 Yaris Total cost spent to date related to the faulty ABS brake issue is $6000+- and counting. Sooner or later Toyota Canada has to issue a recall notice for this major safety defect. I'm amazed no one has been killed yet! We have spun around 3 times because of a locked rear wheel. Wow! unbelievable. I recently filed with Transport Canada. I will be undertaking legal action unless Toyota Canada fesses up.

03-17-2011, 01:58 AM	#4
auxmike Drives: 2008 HB, A/T, Power W/L/M Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, New Yawk Posts: 2,063	Glad I don't have ABS on mine, seems like a big hassel... __________________ Never take eyes off opponent - Bruce Lee

03-17-2011, 06:20 PM	#6
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 Polar White 5dr, 13 Soul 4u Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,809	speed sensor -> connector -> wires proposed solution: speed sensor -> wires Since the issue is corrosion in the connector, the idea put forth by yaris2010RS is to directly bypass the connector and hard wire direct to the sensor. __________________

03-25-2011, 08:25 PM	#10
N9QGS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgetown, KY Posts: 117	I went to my tire place, they checked all connections; they saw nothing worth alarming, and it only came on one more time after this and now the weather is warmer, it has not returned. I do expect to see it next winter, and I will get it taken care of at that time. __________________ 198K Miles

05-15-2011, 10:09 AM	#12
sternz Drives: 08 Blazing Blue LB Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Milford, PA Posts: 20	I'm having the problem as well, it started happening this past winter. I cleaned the rear sensors and applied Dielectric Tune-up Grease and still have the lights on. I really don't want to have to pay anything to have this problem fixed, since it should be recalled. I'm very disappointed Toyota has done nothing for their clients. Worst part is that unless the design for the sensors themselves are not changed, it will just keep us all going back to the shop. I contacted the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm I urge those in the US to do the same. Last edited by sternz; 05-21-2011 at 11:11 AM. Reason: Added direct url for vehicle complaint

07-29-2011, 08:56 PM	#3
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	In order to solder them directly you need to remove the hub anyway, so you might as well install a new one.

03-17-2011, 06:11 PM	#5
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	How would hardwiring around the sensor solve the problem? Maybe I'm not understanding your idea properly. It seems to me that if you were to do that, you'd still be driving a car without a functioning speed sensor that no longer has ABS. You might as well just pull the fuse and not cut any wires. I'd hate to have to explain to my insurance company that I got in an accident because I cut a bunch of wires off my brakes.

03-17-2011, 06:52 PM	#7
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	Riiiiight. Sorry, it's been a long day. My bad.

03-18-2011, 12:07 AM	#8
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	i'm writing a letter to the wheels section of the toronto star regarding this, perhaps if more of us did that we would get some attention and therefore action from toyota canada. here's the email for the editorial staff of the wheels section if anyone else feels so inclined: wheels@thestar.ca

03-25-2011, 05:09 PM	#9
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	after a couple of calls to the service manager of my dealership and toyota canada, they ended up covering 80% of the price to replace the faulty sensor and wiring harness on my yaris, so it cost $75 plus the initial $50 diagnostic (this is for the one side only). while i was happy that it did not cost $416 like i was quoted i'm still not entirely satisfied as i think this is a defective part. i think there's a good chance the other side will eventually go as well so i'm wondering if they will hand me the same token for that one?

05-12-2011, 10:44 AM	#11
PrincessKay Drives: Blueberry Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2	Both of my lights are on as well - somewhat of a comfort to know that I'm not the only one. I drive an '07 RS HB. I have to go in tomorrow for service so I will talk to them about it then. This really should be a recall...

05-21-2011, 12:30 AM	#13
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	I've tried almost everything to get Toyota to do SOMETHING about this, but unless I pay them to do the repair they won't budge. Toyota Canada is crap when trying to get anything. They should have really had a recall for this issue since it's happening to more and more people. I just leave the lights on the dash on, I don't care any more since they keep coming back on.

05-21-2011, 09:25 AM	#14
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	They turn on and off all the time, specially when wet. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

05-28-2011, 12:10 AM	#15
Mikeey01nzl 91octane $2.24nzd / litre Drives: 05 5d 1.3 CVT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 21	Okay now I'm really confused... ABS light comes on, I don't own any diag stuff to plug into it so I jumpered 4 & 13. ABS light flashes 4 times then goes out, then flashes 9 times. None of this even comes close to what is listed above.. does anyone know what it's complaining about? __________________ Last edited by Mikeey01nzl; 05-28-2011 at 12:51 AM.