ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

jesse1000 · 12-08-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by onizuka

this should be something of safety concern and perhaps a recall should be made
when most of us upgrade to ABS package, we expect it to last and come to use
jesse, I can see that your car is 2007, how can you past your warranty this quick?

Ya, it's a 2007...I didn't bother getting the extended warranty (it's a Toyota), and i was working as a co-op student about 90km from home for about 16 months....I have put on 110,000km so far

uncleyaris · 12-07-2008, 11:08 PM

I'm glad i didn't get ABS. Seems like a problem to come back after a while. BTY, how's the sway bar doing?

voodoo22 · 12-08-2008, 08:26 AM

Is this a sedan problem as well or only a lb issue?

I have a sedan and am entering the second winter with it. I haven't had this issue yet and am wondering if any sedan owners are also having this problem?

Pars · 12-09-2008, 09:05 AM

I put on 150,000km on my Hatchback in less then 2yrs. So I quickly blew through the warranty.

I spoke to the mechanic fixing my ABS, he told me that the sensors being used on the Yaris's ABS is the same as the Corolla and according to him, there wasn't any issue with Corolla's ABS. If that's true, I suspect it's the harness/connections that are getting corroded and causing the problem. But, since both ends are getting corroded, so the sensors is still suspect even if it's working.

Anyone with a 2008 model that's having the ABS problem?

IllusionX · 12-09-2008, 10:37 AM

Those connections should be water proof.. much like all other connections that are in the engine bay. But it's not a bad idea to grease them to avoid corrosion...

I got my sedan in 2006.. and have not had any problems with the car except the water pump bearing that gave up.

ammes · 12-09-2008, 11:41 AM

Does anyone know what the exclamation point symbol means? I just got my 08 Yaris Sedan on October 14th and this morning that exclamation point light was on an did not go off like usual. I found the light symbol in my manual, but no explanation on what the light is suppose to indicate. I am taking it to my dealer on Friday but I am curious to know what it is suppose to be telling me. Any help is gladly appreciated.

voodoo22 · 12-09-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ammes

Does anyone know what the exclamation point symbol means? I just got my 08 Yaris Sedan on October 14th and this morning that exclamation point light was on an did not go off like usual. I found the light symbol in my manual, but no explanation on what the light is suppose to indicate. I am taking it to my dealer on Friday but I am curious to know what it is suppose to be telling me. Any help is gladly appreciated.

I'm guessing, but isn't it parking brake?

GeneralDon7 · 12-09-2008, 12:43 PM

Yes thats the parking brake light, Does anyone know what would cause the ABS to come on sometimes, its really random, is this cause of that corroded connecor, and also does anyone know why the power steering light would come on, could it be low power steering fluid, cause it only comes on after i start steering. These lights have only started coming on after I just got my front two tires changed. Which I find quite fishy to begin with.

IllusionX · 12-09-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneralDon7

Yes thats the parking brake light, Does anyone know what would cause the ABS to come on sometimes, its really random, is this cause of that corroded connecor, and also does anyone know why the power steering light would come on, could it be low power steering fluid, cause it only comes on after i start steering. These lights have only started coming on after I just got my front two tires changed. Which I find quite fishy to begin with.

was it this one?

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Originally Posted by CTScott

It is the one that looks like this:

IllusionX · 12-09-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ammes

Does anyone know what the exclamation point symbol means? I just got my 08 Yaris Sedan on October 14th and this morning that exclamation point light was on an did not go off like usual. I found the light symbol in my manual, but no explanation on what the light is suppose to indicate. I am taking it to my dealer on Friday but I am curious to know what it is suppose to be telling me. Any help is gladly appreciated.

buddy, you are in the Canadian forum :P Some US models have tire pressure monitors.... this could be it.

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Originally Posted by GeneralDon7

Yes thats the parking brake light, Does anyone know what would cause the ABS to come on sometimes, its really random, is this cause of that corroded connecor, and also does anyone know why the power steering light would come on, could it be low power steering fluid, cause it only comes on after i start steering. These lights have only started coming on after I just got my front two tires changed. Which I find quite fishy to begin with.

the yaris does not have any powersteering fluid. It's solely powered by an electric motor. If the light does come on... it could be your motor is overheating or malfunctioning.

onizuka · 12-09-2008, 07:38 PM

just took my car to my dealer, last winter (jan 2008), I had my left rear sensor replaced. Now this winter, my right side are done. As usual, parts are backorders, have to wait for 1-2 weeks just like last time. Luckily my ECP extended warranty is paying for it.

To whomever doing their sensor, push them to do it both side. IF it's the same hardness and they are installed at the same time, it's the matter of time that both get corroded around the same time.

Just like your left shoe would get same wear and tear than your right shoe! I don't understand why didn't Toyota simply replace both side from beginning.

IllusionX · 12-12-2008, 04:10 PM

BTW guys... my sedan has been undercoated by Toyota. my connections probably have been isolated from water and road salt. I also do yearly oil rust-proof, and they spray oil all over under the car.

onizuka, how about yours ?

onizuka · 12-12-2008, 07:03 PM

still pending for parts arrival

Jem_hadar · 12-14-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onizuka

Last year I got the speed sensor problem fixed. Waited for parts for 2 weeks, and driven my car without ABS in snow for 2 weeks. And now a year later, the problem happens again after an afternoon of snowy driving.

I recall my dealer telling me how the speed sensor can easily be malfunction due to salt splash. Dammit, I hope it's on the other side, because I can't believe how the same parts fail twice in 2 years. I have to bring my car in on Monday.

My car is heading its 4th year, and I hope my warranty continues to cover this.

THANK GOD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! (Sorry to hear abt u having the same issue too though, man)

Last Sunday this bloody issue happened AGAIN with my 2007 Yaris 5DR Manual Hatchback.

This is the SECOND time it has happened to me (YES, I'm annoyed! Sorry)

Happened earlier this year, last winter back in Feb 08.

Now, this winter, Dec 08, it had happened again (right after we got another massive dumping of snow)!

Luckily getting the replacement part in was no problem for my dealership. Took my car in (bc of the ABS and (!) warning lights showing), and after the apt they told me the issue (something abt the hub assembly ???? i dunno, was over my head...) and that i would have to come back the next day for the fix - getting the part the next day wasnt an issue up here.

I'm covered under warranty, but that expires this coming May 09. So since this has now happened TWICE in less than a year, I'm kinda concerned (and annoyed).

I asked out of curiosity what it would likely cost me to fix, just a general ballpark i said..... and was told around the $400! JESUS f*cking jehovah!

Anyways, so sum this up, I have a few questions to clear up.

If this goes on me again when I'm out of warranty, I dont wanna be shelling out money for something that is NON-ESSENTIAL to my car's operations (while im still making monthly pymts)

ie. If i dont need to fix it (if it wont cause further issues or complications for my car), i dont wanna fix it.

Can I just say "screw it" and save the $400+ and live w/o ABS and be fine? There'll be no detriment to my car, right? There's no danger of creating further problems for my Yaris in the future if i dont address this ABS failure?

As well, if the answer above is YES, and i chose to live w/o ABS (not huge big deal for me), is there a way they can flash (or whatever the term is) the car's computer so i dont have to live w/ the ABS and (!) lights being perpetually on!??

I would hate to have to deal with and see those lights on constantly if this was an issue i was gonna just ignore. Can turning them off (as it relates to this ABS failure issue) be done?

(obvi i would still want my (!) to be on when i have the parking brake up... i drive a manual. i am fond of that indicator. lol)

Thanks for the input ppl.

Glad to see im not the only Yaris owner w/ this bloody issue. UGH. Feel annoyed for us all though. this feels like an "annoying VW" issue as far as im concerned... :S

Jem

voodoo22 · 12-14-2008, 05:00 PM

Is anyone with a sedan having this problem?

I haven't had this problem on our sedan yet, and so far, it looks like everyone having issues owns hatches.

WeeYari · 12-14-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by voodoo22

Is anyone with a sedan having this problem?

I haven't had this problem on our sedan yet, and so far, it looks like everyone having issues owns hatches.

Post #24 is a sedan.

voodoo22 · 12-15-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WeeYari

Post #24 is a sedan.

Thanks WeeYari

IllusionX · 12-15-2008, 12:42 AM

i would like to know if, of all those who had the problem, had the car rust proofed, or had undercoat done.

12-09-2008, 11:41 AM	#6
ammes I've made a post! Drives: 08 Flint Mica Yaris Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, OR Posts: 1	Exclamation Point Light Question Does anyone know what the exclamation point symbol means? I just got my 08 Yaris Sedan on October 14th and this morning that exclamation point light was on an did not go off like usual. I found the light symbol in my manual, but no explanation on what the light is suppose to indicate. I am taking it to my dealer on Friday but I am curious to know what it is suppose to be telling me. Any help is gladly appreciated. __________________

12-07-2008, 11:08 PM	#2
uncleyaris View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Bayou Blue!!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,523	I'm glad i didn't get ABS. Seems like a problem to come back after a while. BTY, how's the sway bar doing?

12-08-2008, 08:26 AM	#3
voodoo22 Drives: Yaris Sedan (auto) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 545	Is this a sedan problem as well or only a lb issue? I have a sedan and am entering the second winter with it. I haven't had this issue yet and am wondering if any sedan owners are also having this problem?

12-09-2008, 09:05 AM	#4
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	I put on 150,000km on my Hatchback in less then 2yrs. So I quickly blew through the warranty. I spoke to the mechanic fixing my ABS, he told me that the sensors being used on the Yaris's ABS is the same as the Corolla and according to him, there wasn't any issue with Corolla's ABS. If that's true, I suspect it's the harness/connections that are getting corroded and causing the problem. But, since both ends are getting corroded, so the sensors is still suspect even if it's working. Anyone with a 2008 model that's having the ABS problem?

12-09-2008, 10:37 AM	#5
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	Those connections should be water proof.. much like all other connections that are in the engine bay. But it's not a bad idea to grease them to avoid corrosion... I got my sedan in 2006.. and have not had any problems with the car except the water pump bearing that gave up.

12-09-2008, 12:43 PM	#8
GeneralDon7 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 221	Yes thats the parking brake light, Does anyone know what would cause the ABS to come on sometimes, its really random, is this cause of that corroded connecor, and also does anyone know why the power steering light would come on, could it be low power steering fluid, cause it only comes on after i start steering. These lights have only started coming on after I just got my front two tires changed. Which I find quite fishy to begin with.

12-09-2008, 07:38 PM	#11
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	just took my car to my dealer, last winter (jan 2008), I had my left rear sensor replaced. Now this winter, my right side are done. As usual, parts are backorders, have to wait for 1-2 weeks just like last time. Luckily my ECP extended warranty is paying for it. To whomever doing their sensor, push them to do it both side. IF it's the same hardness and they are installed at the same time, it's the matter of time that both get corroded around the same time. Just like your left shoe would get same wear and tear than your right shoe! I don't understand why didn't Toyota simply replace both side from beginning.

12-12-2008, 04:10 PM	#12
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	BTW guys... my sedan has been undercoated by Toyota. my connections probably have been isolated from water and road salt. I also do yearly oil rust-proof, and they spray oil all over under the car. onizuka, how about yours ?

12-12-2008, 07:03 PM	#13
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	still pending for parts arrival

12-14-2008, 05:00 PM	#15
voodoo22 Drives: Yaris Sedan (auto) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 545	Is anyone with a sedan having this problem? I haven't had this problem on our sedan yet, and so far, it looks like everyone having issues owns hatches.

12-15-2008, 12:42 AM	#18
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	i would like to know if, of all those who had the problem, had the car rust proofed, or had undercoat done.