Recommendation for Shocks?

[Loren]

Originally Posted by daikin22

I would like to get new shock that give me a smooth drive.

Look at your ride height. If the car has too little suspension travel, you're simply NOT going to get a "smooth drive". The problem with going too low is that you reduce the stock 3-4" of bump-absorbing suspension travel to less than 2". If you didn't cut the bump stops, you'd be ON them at rest. If you did cut the bump stops, you've got a whole inch before you contact them. This means that with stock shocks and typical off-the-shelf lowering springs, you're going to blow through what little travel you have on almost every bump. You'll at least get into the bump stop, which will make the ride harsh. If it's a larger bump, you'll compress the bump stop making it even harsher.

To run super-low ride heights on a race car, WAY stiffer springs and corresponding stiffer shock damping is used to make the most of the available suspension travel. None of that adds up to a smooth ride.

To recap: You're not going to get a smooth ride on a street car that's been lowered too much.

[YarisSedan]

I wouldnt go with a oe replacement since you car is lowerd. My experience kyb can be blown out easily in 15k miles on a lowerd car. Depending on where you live and how you drive. You are better off getting set of shocks that are specificly designed for lowered cars such as tokiko shocks. I saw a video in school once how they test every shock before packaging. I would say they are very high quality.

[daikin22]

Originally Posted by YarisSedan

I wouldnt go with a oe replacement since you car is lowerd. My experience kyb can be blown out easily in 15k miles on a lowerd car. Depending on where you live and how you drive. You are better off getting set of shocks that are specificly designed for lowered cars such as tokiko shocks. I saw a video in school once how they test every shock before packaging. I would say they are very high quality.

Thank for Reply

What is model # for Tokiko shocks (the one that same as trd shocks)

Thank in advances.

[YarisSedan]

Originally Posted by daikin22

Thank for Reply

What is model # for Tokiko shocks (the one that same as trd shocks)

Thank in advances.

http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/...idproduct=7797

and you can support a yarisworld vender. I think there was another vender selling the same set also.

[cali yaris]

To recap: You're not going to get a smooth ride on a street car that's been lowered too much.

The theory is correct -- but I guess I would ask you to take a ride in my car when I had DF210's (2" drop) and TRD shocks. Very smooth ride, but not totally mushy like stock.

TehXFallen has the same combo now and I'm always surprised when I ride in his car how perfect that combo feels for the Yaris.

[Loren]

"Smooth" is a very subjective thing. It depends on your personal tastes, and on what kind of roads you have to drive on every day.

My preference is always what I call "firm, but not harsh".

I don't know how much height you lose with the H&R springs, that's why I urged the OP to look at his ride height and make his own observations.

[daikin22]

Originally Posted by Loren

"Smooth" is a very subjective thing. It depends on your personal tastes, and on what kind of roads you have to drive on every day.

My preference is always what I call "firm, but not harsh".

I don't know how much height you lose with the H&R springs, that's why I urged the OP to look at his ride height and make his own observations.

Thank for reply

My H&R spring is about 30mm drop. Well, which shock would you recommend me.
However, it'll better, if I'm change the whole set (Spring & Shock).
Thank you

[daikin22]

Well, which one would you guy recommend me btw Tokiko or KYB.

Thanks in advance

[TheRealEnth]

Tokico +1

[pinoypizzaboy]

tokico ftw!

[Lafiro]

Ok, in plain english:

I have stock shock(dead)
TRD Sportivo Springs.

I do NOT want a harsh ride anymore. So Im assuming that by going with anything other then a stock shock will make things MUCH worse then they were when I first started this setup.

If thats the case, does anyone recommend getting NF210's and a firmer shock?

Or is it a bad thing to combine softer springs with firmer shocks?

Someone please enlighten me because I do not want to lose the drop the TRD springs gave me, but the ride is just getting on my nerves. Or maybe new firmer shocks will improve the ride then what it is now? (My tires bouce on the road at times, I feel it, and it slides even with dry pavement over little bumps, its bad!!!) I guess its time for new shocks, but I dont know what to do!!!!!!!! I live in NYC and I drive a lot, and every block has some tie of bump within a 20mile radius. lol

[daikin22]

Well, I think i will go with Tokico Hp Series. It's suitable for lower spring, isn't it?
Thank a lot for all recommends.

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by daikin22

Well, I think i will go with Tokico Hp Series. It's suitable for lower spring, isn't it?
Thank a lot for all recommends.

Yes. The car will be a little firmer, but a lot more stable. It will ride fine, but stiffer than the stock shocks.

[largeorangefont]

Ok there is a lot of misinformation here.

Tokico HP (blues) and the TRD KYBs are NOT the same. Tokico does NOT make the Sportivo TRD dampers.

I have rode in cars with both setups, and they ride similarly. Both are designed to be used with stiffer springs, which is why they are valved stiffer. I would not call either setup "harsh" or "too stiff". The damping will be a good match to the spring rates of quality lowering springs. The car will feel more sure footed through turns, more stable in the wind, and over bumps, and will rub tires less over bumps.

You will feel more bumps in the road. It is just the price you pay for increased handling. If this means anything, my girlfriend could not really tell the difference in ride from the stock dampers to the Tokico Blues. If you guys have ridden in EVOs, STIs, 350Zs etc, the car will ride BETTER than those types of cars with TRDs or Tokico HP (blues) and lowering springs. If you think that the TRDs rattle your fillings out or are unliveably stiff you should probably should trade you Yaris in on an Avalon. Unless you are on dirt roads in a 3rd world country, it just isn't that bad. If you want to save some money, get the Tokico Blues. They are over $100 cheaper than the TRD pieces and do the exact same thing.

KYB GR2s are good stock replacements. They are usually just very slightly stiffer than the stock dampning. You probably won't even notice the difference. These DO NOT blow out in 2 months, they are just as good as what came on the car. If you want factory replacements and a decent price, GR2s are what you want to get.

[daikin22]

Well, what's about compare between Tokico Hp series and Trd Sportivo, which one is more better, stiff, stable, and smooth.
As I need, I need stable and not much stiff. I don't like when the car sway after run over the brige.
My friend told me that Trd Sportiva is smooth and stable (but price is too high for me).
Then, which one would you recommend me? and sorry that asking you guy a lot because I have on idea about which shock is the one i want.
Thank a lot

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by daikin22

Well, what's about compare between Tokico Hp series and Trd Sportivo, which one is more better, stiff, stable, and smooth.
As I need, I need stable and not much stiff. I don't like when the car sway after run over the brige.
My friend told me that Trd Sportiva is smooth and stable (but price is too high for me).
Then, which one would you recommend me? and sorry that asking you guy a lot because I have on idea about which shock is the one i want.
Thank a lot

They both feel nearly identical. Just get the Tokicos then if the TRDs are too much. From a performance and feel perspective, there is no reason to spend the extra money for the TRDs.

[daikin22]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

They both feel nearly identical. Just get the Tokicos then if the TRDs are too much. From a performance and feel perspective, there is no reason to spend the extra money for the TRDs.

Thanks for reply. That's helpful.

[Black Yaris]

coilovers........ done