CONSUMER REPORTS : MARCH issue reviews '09 YARIS .

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by PK198105

how can you say the yaris is not as good build wise. i think this is the first car i ever owned/driven that the pieces actually stay on the car. nothng falls off everything is tightly fastened and nothing squeaks. did you ever try working on the honda?in order to change a headlight bulb you almost have to take the whole front off. im sorry if the Yaris is not a 350Z but it is a commuter car and not a racing machine. oh and btw the 350z interior is not much better than the yaris , last time ive been in a 350 it was cramped plastic and downright gawdy, not to insult anyone.

also if you don't like the Yaris, then why buy it there are plenty of alternatives to it.
And how can you say the Yaris is not as good looking as the Fit, the Fit looks like a giant clothes iron.

as for the after market parts don't forget who makes that buisness run , little yo boys with Hondas it is only natural that there will be a bigger supply of rice for them. IMO Toyotas and more precisely Yaris are great cars, conservative yes and maybe not as hyped up as other cars yet i wouldn't take a Fit if the have given it to me,

look its hard to deny that most of the fit/yaris debate is looks based, no?

i mean c'mon!

i like both, but differently. but i have to admit that the interior of the 1st gen fit (and 2nd gen) are nicer than the yaris. its not that the yaris sucks - - do dont get me wrong - - but i prefer the fit better. i like the gauges behind the steering wheel. i like the split fold, multi use seats, i like the fold-flat rear cargo area, i like the seating material better too, cus blue dots on flat seats = worse than black/grey seats in the fit...

and you can NOT say that the aftermarket support for the yaris is or will ever be better than a fit. cus k20 swap > all. toyotas are hard to due because the ecu is so adaptive. and all cars get i/h/e...but we still dont have a catback exhaust yet....only 1 set of non-trd shocks, only TRD sway bars (f&r), and the list goes on

that being said, i like that the yaris is lighter than the fit (and i like that the echo hatch is lighter than a yaris). i also like the look of the yaris - - THATS RIGHT I LIKE BOTH CARS LOOKS! i like that you CAN buy a super base yaris for really cheap (which i more or less bought). i really like the bolstered seats in the RS. i love the look of a yaris w/ the side skirts in 06/07.

but for me in my life, the fit would have worked better that a yaris for me.....especially now that im going to have a kid.....i could have used 4drs, split fold seats, and more storage.....but i have what a i have

very few from this site will ever prefer the fit over a yaris....and as a car enthusiast, im willing to accept that.

[auxmike]

As a Smart car owner, I can tell you the're real easy to work on.
BUT, I get no respect in it.
My last road rage incident pictured......

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by auxmike

As a Smart car owner, I can tell you the're real easy to work on.
BUT, I get no respect in it.
My last road rage incident pictured......

I think you're using the wrong wookie for that mod.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by PK198105

i just have one question how safe would you really feel in a Smart? each time i see a Smart on the road i have my cell set to 911 just press SEND

my wife and i drove a smart w/ a diesel before driving the yaris (actually like 30min before)

i found the ergonomics kind of weird, and the car being a 2 seater just made it seem kind of useless. i also hated the quasi-auto transmission too. AND it was wicked slow.

oh, and theres no mercedes dealer in fredericton - - the closest is in saint john which is just over an hour away in good weather. and its not like you can get the oil changed anywhere w/ the diesel smart too (im not sure how it is for the newer gas engine) but they actually have to pump the oil out as there isnt a drain in the pan....so you HAVE to get it done at a mercedes dealer (though from what i read on the smart forum, there is a roaming truck that will come to your city to change the oil)

so ya...we own a yaris (which seemed like a speed demon after driving the smart car!)

lol @ auxmike

[rningonfumes]

lmao at the pics.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by PK198105

i just have one question how safe would you really feel in a Smart? each time i see a Smart on the road i have my cell set to 911 just press SEND

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s

As you can see, even at a brutal 70 mph crash head on into a cement barrier, the Smart's passenger compartment stays intact. It's a pretty safe car. Too many people are stuck on the old belief that a small car is a death trap.

[Kal-El]

Yeah, the test in the this video is an extreme example and you'd probably get killed in a Hummer going 70 mph into a solid barrier. The cause of death in this situation is the sudden and violent whiplash of your internal organs never mind the broken neck and the seatbelt crushing your ribs.

[Phaeton]

Some people who bought the Yaris aren't poor.
I bought one because I needed a car that would be dependable and get good gas mileage over a long period of time. I've put 40,000 miles on mine in 8 months. I would not do that to a nicer car.

[Kal-El]

Funny how "poor" is such a relative term. Technically, if you're poor you shouldn't have a car at all never mind a new car.

To say that by buying an economy car assumes a person is poor is ridculous.

If being able to buy a $15K car is poor, I hate to see what a guy living on a park bench is characterized as.

It's funny, I was listening to a news report describing what being "poor" is today. It's having 1-2 cars, flat screen TV, cell-phone, computer/internet, ect...

[Crandall]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

If being able to buy a $15K car is poor, I hate to see what a guy living on a park bench is characterized as.

I believe that's called being homeless

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

It's funny, I was listening to a news report describing what being "poor" is today. It's having 1-2 cars, flat screen TV, cell-phone, computer/internet, etc

oh crap...im lower than poor! i gotta get me a flatscreen and a cell phone w/ a camera in it!

[ddongbap]

Anyway, my point exactly. If you really wanna continue this, GeneW, you can just shoot me over a PM. We can keep it nice and private, unless an audience is the source of your fuel for 'debate'.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by PK198105

and all i did was ask why the fit is a better car... damn i better stay quiet next time.

lol, now you know!

PK talking = baby mama drama

[auxmike]

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by PK198105

and all i did was ask why the fit is a better car... damn i better stay quiet next time.

I disagree with the primary assumption - that the Fit is in fact a "better" car.

Better for whom and why is the proper question. Some of us here love to Mod cars and might find the Fit a better candidate for the task. Especially since Honda ECUs are a lot easier to hack than Toyota ECUs.

Some of us, who do not own a garage and do not want to buy lots of exotic tools, and do not wish to play with our OBD-II systems, might find the Yaris a little more to our taste.

Gene

[ddongbap]

PMs, or gtfo.

I don't want to have this kind of argument, one which has the potential to get dirty and low brow, in front of all these people.

Sorry, but I won't stroke your epeen on these forums.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

PMs, or gtfo.

I don't want to have this kind of argument, one which has the potential to get dirty and low brow, in front of all these people.

BS. You use profane abbreviations and imperious tones with me.

You love to argue. You're just not very good at it.

Gene

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by GeneW

BS. You use profane abbreviations and imperious tones with me.

You love to argue. You're just not very good at it.

Gene

I LOVE to argue. But these forums suck for the arguing.

I tried not to use those tones, but its hard not to for me.