Suggestions for $300-$400 worth of mods please! - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

ZING · 01-24-2009, 03:16 PM

Yargh how jealous I get. Cost me 300$ for springs alone..including shipping and customs tax.

You didn't mention NF210's up there. They are great.

cali yaris · 01-24-2009, 05:36 PM

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And shop around for DF210 springs, they can be found for far less than you have listed.

Less than $158 shipped? where?

I do also have Progress springs for $144.95 shipped. Customers so far have really liked them.

Great ideas on this thread, enough to put together a nice upgrade package for your car.

PetersRedYaris · 01-25-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

Less than $158 shipped? where?

I do also have Progress springs for $144.95 shipped. Customers so far have really liked them.

Great ideas on this thread, enough to put together a nice upgrade package for your car.

Hmmm, I guess your right. 2 years ago when I got my NF210's, I would see DF's all over ebay in the $130 range. I guess prices have gone up; inflation?

So, it appears you do have the best deal.

Edit- heres a sweet deal.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13122

NonStopTuning · 01-24-2009, 06:31 PM

Excellent thread!
I have repeatedly heard that the NST Underdrive Crank Pulley and Short Shift Kit transform the Yaris into a much more enjoyable car.

Of course this is why we build them

lilredrocket · 01-25-2009, 05:59 AM

Haha. Mike you sound a little cocky there... I like it. I will be buying the whole pully kit ssk and bushing kit next weekend. Can't wait to feel the difference!

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-25-2009, 06:17 AM

Ok so far It looks like my best buy would be:

Tanabe DF210 Springs $158
NST Short Shift Kit $90
NST underdrive pulley $118
Total $366 shipped

(tho not sure if these dealers are the best price for these...)

I'm still not sure if these are the right springs to get... I'm leaning towards the Tanabe DF210s, after all they were "approved by Black Yaris"

Other springs were also mentioned but I don't know any thing about spring rates or what makes a good setup... I'm not sure if rubbing is an issue with a 2" drop. I'm pretty sure my stock 15" steel wheels would be ok but if I upgrade to larger alloys in the future, I wonder if my upgrade will be limited (I wonder if a larger wheel is needed at all to tell the truth)

With the current list it leaves a tiny bit left for possibly the camber bolts but then again I might need that for the tools I will prolly have to rent/buy to install all this stuff. That and the camber thing scares me...

Any ways sorry for being so wordy, but I would appreciate any thoughts on this subject (after all this is my first major mod and prolly my last until I ether get a better job or another tax return

)

eTiMaGo · 01-25-2009, 06:29 AM

There's not much actual comparison between different springs, and not a lot of data, but essentially if you are looking for a mild drop that remains comfortable, then NF210 or TEIN H-tech would be fine. For a more aggressive drop with stiffer feeling, then DF210s or S-techs... No idea how other brands fit in to the range, though!

Klink10 · 01-25-2009, 08:51 AM

Thanks for your post to my "something to do thread".

It appears that several knowledgeable folks have provided good comments on how to spend your available funds wisely. Don't forget that a Yaris is a very nicely styled auto and when kept clean and shiny it will draw attention. The clean and shiny can be done by you with a minimum expense in materials. I consider it a free mod. Good luck.

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-25-2009, 08:58 AM

yea thanks

Wish I could wash it right now but sub freezing temps and salt covered roads make that unlikely... If I don't get any better ideas by tomorrow, I think I'll order the parts. (After I research the DIYs a bit more to be sure I can put these parts on....)

cleong · 01-25-2009, 10:15 AM

Well here's the thing, if you're going to do the springs, you're going to mess with the front struts and the alignment anyway. Now some people feel that an alignment after a disassembly of the struts is un-necessary, but I'll leave you to decide for yourself.

If you have plans to take it to an alignment shop to get it squared up again, you might as well do the camber bolts at the same time. Otherwise you'll end up spending alignment labour twice.

TheRealEnth · 01-25-2009, 01:31 PM

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The camber bolts are scary... I've read the wrong camber settings can ruin a car...

is that true? dont know about camber bolts -.- what does -1.5 degrees in the front do exactly... and how would we set it up right.. or we need a mechanic that knows what hes doing ? lol

-edit: reading up on it now... when you drop your car it changes the camber angle which leads to faster wear and tear... and also at a negative in the front you can take turns better .. =D... but is it still true about the wrong settings?

cleong · 01-25-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealEnth

is that true? dont know about camber bolts -.- what does -1.5 degrees in the front do exactly... and how would we set it up right.. or we need a mechanic that knows what hes doing ? lol

-edit: reading up on it now... when you drop your car it changes the camber angle which leads to faster wear and tear... and also at a negative in the front you can take turns better .. =D... but is it still true about the wrong settings?

-1.5 degrees gives you better corner grip if you're the sort of driver that likes to be enthusiastic around the twisty stuff. How much negative camber you actually need depends on your driving habits. If you regularly test the traction limits of your tires on freeway on/off ramps then negative 1.5 and beyond should serve you well. Otherwise, setting up that much negative camber and driving sedately would actually wear out the inside edge of your front tires prematurely. The idea is to spread the wear evenly on your front tires. By doing that, you're maximizing your tire grip as well.

bikegerm · 01-25-2009, 02:48 PM

Your choice is perfect. Springs, underdrive pulley, and SSK. Trust your fellow forum members, you won't find any better prices and support than from the vendors on this site !! Don't waste your time looking anywhere else for Yaris specific mods.

bzinn 1 · 01-26-2009, 01:58 AM

I really enjoyed the look and ride from my DFs,they ride a bit low on my car for some reason and I scrape with my stockies on on speed bumps but that is normal.

Another great mod is the rear TRD sway bar.....works great with the springs.

For best handling good tires make a great differance.

Pullys make the car come alive.....night and day.....

SSK makes it better to control shifts too.

Great choices out there,shop around and find the best prices,check the classifieds on here as I always see springs for sale for cheap.....

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bzinn 1

I really enjoyed the look and ride from my DFs,they ride a bit low on my car for some reason and I scrape with my stockies on on speed bumps but that is normal.

Yikes... you scrape on speed bumps?

hmmm ok now that's something to think about... what size wheels?

AdeJong 03 · 01-26-2009, 05:05 AM

rear sway bar would be the first thing id buy

hard for me to justify go fast mods on a car that has less than 110 hp lol. im only doing suspension

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AdeJong 03

rear sway bar would be the first thing id buy

hard for me to justify go fast mods on a car that has less than 110 hp lol. im only doing suspension

ahh but the thing is... It weighs so little that every hp counts

(that and every pound shaved off...)

CtrlAltDefeat · 01-26-2009, 06:26 AM

well the SSK and the Underdrive pulley are ordered... Still unsure about which springs to order...

Also, is an alignment really needed when you swap springs? The DIY seemed pretty straight forward; I didn't see any thing you could adjust...

01-24-2009, 06:31 PM	#4
NonStopTuning Drives: NST CARS: S13 AE86 ANT10 AW11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,097	Excellent thread! I have repeatedly heard that the NST Underdrive Crank Pulley and Short Shift Kit transform the Yaris into a much more enjoyable car. Of course this is why we build them __________________ MIKE @ NST www.NonStopTuning.com

01-25-2009, 06:17 AM	#6
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	Ok so far It looks like my best buy would be: Tanabe DF210 Springs $158 NST Short Shift Kit $90 NST underdrive pulley $118 Total $366 shipped (tho not sure if these dealers are the best price for these...) I'm still not sure if these are the right springs to get... I'm leaning towards the Tanabe DF210s, after all they were "approved by Black Yaris" Other springs were also mentioned but I don't know any thing about spring rates or what makes a good setup... I'm not sure if rubbing is an issue with a 2" drop. I'm pretty sure my stock 15" steel wheels would be ok but if I upgrade to larger alloys in the future, I wonder if my upgrade will be limited (I wonder if a larger wheel is needed at all to tell the truth) With the current list it leaves a tiny bit left for possibly the camber bolts but then again I might need that for the tools I will prolly have to rent/buy to install all this stuff. That and the camber thing scares me... Any ways sorry for being so wordy, but I would appreciate any thoughts on this subject (after all this is my first major mod and prolly my last until I ether get a better job or another tax return ) Last edited by CtrlAltDefeat; 01-25-2009 at 06:31 AM.

01-25-2009, 06:29 AM	#7
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	There's not much actual comparison between different springs, and not a lot of data, but essentially if you are looking for a mild drop that remains comfortable, then NF210 or TEIN H-tech would be fine. For a more aggressive drop with stiffer feeling, then DF210s or S-techs... No idea how other brands fit in to the range, though! __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

01-25-2009, 08:58 AM	#9
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	yea thanks Wish I could wash it right now but sub freezing temps and salt covered roads make that unlikely... If I don't get any better ideas by tomorrow, I think I'll order the parts. (After I research the DIYs a bit more to be sure I can put these parts on....) __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

01-25-2009, 10:15 AM	#10
cleong Parallel Parking Pro View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 1.5 Manual Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 590	Well here's the thing, if you're going to do the springs, you're going to mess with the front struts and the alignment anyway. Now some people feel that an alignment after a disassembly of the struts is un-necessary, but I'll leave you to decide for yourself. If you have plans to take it to an alignment shop to get it squared up again, you might as well do the camber bolts at the same time. Otherwise you'll end up spending alignment labour twice. __________________ Leong's NCP91 Toyota Yaris E Hankook V12 Evo 195/55/15 on Buddy Club P1 replicas 15x7 ET +38 Stebel horns, Philips Silvervision turn indicator bulbs TTE Lowering Springs, Camber bolts TRD Blue brake pads Fujitsubo Super Wagolis axleback exhaust DC Sports header

01-24-2009, 03:16 PM	#1
ZING View User's Garage Drives: Yaris '09,GTi '09, BMW 3.30ci Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lebanon, Middle East. Posts: 582	Yargh how jealous I get. Cost me 300$ for springs alone..including shipping and customs tax. You didn't mention NF210's up there. They are great.

01-25-2009, 05:59 AM	#5
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	Haha. Mike you sound a little cocky there... I like it. I will be buying the whole pully kit ssk and bushing kit next weekend. Can't wait to feel the difference!

01-25-2009, 08:51 AM	#8
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	Thanks for your post to my "something to do thread". It appears that several knowledgeable folks have provided good comments on how to spend your available funds wisely. Don't forget that a Yaris is a very nicely styled auto and when kept clean and shiny it will draw attention. The clean and shiny can be done by you with a minimum expense in materials. I consider it a free mod. Good luck.

01-25-2009, 02:48 PM	#13
bikegerm View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Meteor LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nashville, TN. Posts: 229	Your choice is perfect. Springs, underdrive pulley, and SSK. Trust your fellow forum members, you won't find any better prices and support than from the vendors on this site !! Don't waste your time looking anywhere else for Yaris specific mods. __________________ Randy LeRoy www.airshowmastering.com randy@airshowmastering.com

01-26-2009, 01:58 AM	#14
bzinn 1 Drives: 2008 Yaris HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: University Place,WA Posts: 828	I really enjoyed the look and ride from my DFs,they ride a bit low on my car for some reason and I scrape with my stockies on on speed bumps but that is normal. Another great mod is the rear TRD sway bar.....works great with the springs. For best handling good tires make a great differance. Pullys make the car come alive.....night and day..... SSK makes it better to control shifts too. Great choices out there,shop around and find the best prices,check the classifieds on here as I always see springs for sale for cheap.....

01-26-2009, 05:05 AM	#16
AdeJong 03 "Stealth Runner" View User's Garage Drives: 2009 Yaris-S Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LA, CA Posts: 510	rear sway bar would be the first thing id buy hard for me to justify go fast mods on a car that has less than 110 hp lol. im only doing suspension

01-26-2009, 06:26 AM	#18
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	well the SSK and the Underdrive pulley are ordered... Still unsure about which springs to order... Also, is an alignment really needed when you swap springs? The DIY seemed pretty straight forward; I didn't see any thing you could adjust... __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell