Soda vs Cement

[id3379]

I have a friend at my work, who used to work for pepsi in a distribution plant.

Monday morning they were loading some pallets of pepsi into a truck to be delivered but the fork lift accidentally poked a hole in one of the crates of pepsi and it leaked out, they said they were running behind so they just picked it up and set it in the corner of the warehouse and kept working while it slowly leaked soda out. There were about 50 packs of pepsi on the pallet fyi.

Friday morning they went to the corner to go clean it up and they said when they lifted the leaking pallet off the ground all the soda had chewed away the top of the cement!

She no longer drinks soda.

[nemelek]

I would have to see it to believe it.

[id3379]

Originally Posted by PK198105

ok here is something you can try find a black penny , dump it in a glass of coke or pepsi overnight. and see the results. of course it is bad if its the only drink you ingest but from time to time its ok dont worry too much.

time to time X your lifetime = ?

[MadMax]

We were always told to put an iron nail in a glass full of Coke and let it stand for a week. It would dissolve. But the contents of your stomach are more acidic...

Cheers! M2

[BailOut]

What's interesting is that the all natural and organic colas don't do this. If you take away the totally unnecessary and harmful ingredients found in Coke and Pepsi such as high fructose corn syrup, aspartame, phosphoric acid, sodium benzoate, etc. then the caustic reactions that are known to eat metals, teeth and now concrete sealant simple cannot occur.

The organic and/or all natural colas use ingedients such as evaporated cane juice and omit "flavor enhancers" and preservatives. It is a much smarter, healthier way to make a soda.

But the big bottlers aren't interested in your long term health. They care only about how much profit they can show for this quarter, and each time you buy one of their products you help perpetuate this harmful behavior.

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by BailOut

What's interesting is that the all natural and organic colas don't do this. If you take away the totally unnecessary and harmful ingredients found in Coke and Pepsi such as high fructose corn syrup, aspartame, phosphoric acid, sodium benzoate, etc. then the caustic reactions that are known to eat metals, teeth and now concrete sealant simple cannot occur.

The organic and/or all natural colas use ingedients such as evaporated cane juice and omit "flavor enhancers" and preservatives. It is a much smarter, healthier way to make a soda.

But the big bottlers aren't interested in your long term health. They care only about how much profit they can show for this quarter, and each time you buy one of their products you help perpetuate this harmful behavior.

it's a shame that the small timers can't get mass produced and pushed like the big timers.....
vending machines on every corner for pepsi and coke.....yet I have to travel like 10 miles or so to get the good stuff.....

[blktiger60]

I don't like cola, none of it.
Give me a nice bottle of Jones Soda. I like the Green Apple and Bubble Gum flavors.

And for my rum, . . . something citrus.

[id3379]

why would you wanna drink stuff that taste like bubble gum ?? :(

[SIPNGAS]

I remember my grandpa brushing Coke on corroded battery contacts on his cars with a paint brush. It would eat the corrosion away....

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by BailOut

What's interesting is that the all natural and organic colas don't do this. If you take away the totally unnecessary and harmful ingredients found in Coke and Pepsi such as high fructose corn syrup, aspartame, phosphoric acid, sodium benzoate, etc. then the caustic reactions that are known to eat metals, teeth and now concrete sealant simple cannot occur.

The organic and/or all natural colas use ingedients such as evaporated cane juice and omit "flavor enhancers" and preservatives. It is a much smarter, healthier way to make a soda.

But the big bottlers aren't interested in your long term health. They care only about how much profit they can show for this quarter, and each time you buy one of their products you help perpetuate this harmful behavior.

Sodium benzoate is a preservative that inhibits the growth of dangerous bacteria and fungi. It's found naturally in some fruits. It's very effective at keeping acidic foods free of dangerous growths.

Purer ingredients tend to reduce spoilage. Pure ingredients are easier to purge of bacteria and fungi during the process of concentration. "Natural" ingredients contain enzymes and reducing sugars that can corrupt stored foods.

Pure Sucrose is a wonder food. If you keep it dry and away from air it stores very well. In contrast Turbinado (dried cane juice) and brown sugars are more fragile and do not store as well. Alas, the price of Sucrose is "supported" by Congress, hence the use of corn based fructose syrups that are well tolerated by many consumers.

Artificial flavorings are aldehydes that are engineered for a certain taste. Considering that "natural flavors" are relatively scarce, fragile and often seasonal artificial flavors reduce the cost and increase availability of some tastes for more people.

Artificial sweetners are subject to reasonable amounts of testing, and can liberate diabetics and others from the scourge of tiny portions and glucose spikes. I have to wonder how much of their negative press is inspired by the Sucrose Lobby, which works hard enough keeping Corn based sweetners at bay?

However it's everyone's right to go to a Health Food store and pay half again more or double for something that does not store as long as the mass produced good and if its not well cared for can become a culture media.

I'm not being hard on you Brian but don't you think there was a reason that so many moons ago the Food Industry wanted longer shelf lives and a wider market?

Gene

[IllusionX]

it's the citric acid contained in those drinks.

[blktiger60]

Originally Posted by id3379

why would you wanna drink stuff that taste like bubble gum ?? :(

Why would someone else want to drink stuff that is cola flavored ?

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by id3379

Friday morning they went to the corner to go clean it up and they said when they lifted the leaking pallet off the ground all the soda had chewed away the top of the cement!

She no longer drinks soda.

That's her call. Most likely it was the phosphoric acid in the Pepsi. Why it's there I do not know. However Phosphoric acid reacts with calcium and magnesium salts to form phosphates. In the process of doing so the structure of the Concrete is destroyed.

Another use for Pepsi or Coke is to remove rust from steel. Pure phosphoric acid is better for this purpose. It also has a citrus odor to it.

Gene

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by SIPNGAS

I remember my grandpa brushing Coke on corroded battery contacts on his cars with a paint brush. It would eat the corrosion away....

It's also apparently good at loosening stuck lug nuts!

Cheers! M2

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Sodium benzoate is a preservative that inhibits the growth of dangerous bacteria and fungi. It's found naturally in some fruits. It's very effective at keeping acidic foods free of dangerous growths.

Sodium Benzoate + Vitamin C = Benzene

From http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1181971:

although sodium benzoate occurs naturally in some foods, it is the much higher concentrations within soft drinks that are causing alarm, especially when combined with Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)

It is simply not worth it. I like to keep my DNA intact when possible, thank you.

Originally Posted by GeneW

Purer ingredients tend to reduce spoilage. Pure ingredients are easier to purge of bacteria and fungi during the process of concentration. "Natural" ingredients contain enzymes and reducing sugars that can corrupt stored foods.

In my experience organic items last much, much longer both in storage and once opened than do their highly processed counterparts that are packed with preservatives. However, even if you are accurate it begs the question of why so much storage is "needed".

Originally Posted by GeneW

Pure Sucrose is a wonder food. If you keep it dry and away from air it stores very well. In contrast Turbinado (dried cane juice) and brown sugars are more fragile and do not store as well. Alas, the price of Sucrose is "supported" by Congress, hence the use of corn based fructose syrups that are well tolerated by many consumers.

Again I question the "need" of such extensive storage.

Originally Posted by GeneW

Artificial flavorings are aldehydes that are engineered for a certain taste. Considering that "natural flavors" are relatively scarce, fragile and often seasonal artificial flavors reduce the cost and increase availability of some tastes for more people.

I have no idea why anyone would think that natural flavors are scarce but things are seasonal for a reason. Creating highly synthetic alternatives is simply silly.

Originally Posted by GeneW

Artificial sweetners are subject to reasonable amounts of testing

They are? By who? Where? When?! Would that be the same FDA that allows things like Splenda on the market even after it is proven that even moderate usage of it has the potential to cause cancer?

Originally Posted by GeneW

However it's everyone's right to go to a Health Food store and pay half again more or double for something

Pay for it with your wallet or with your health and the health of the planet. The cost of things most often goes far beyond what one pays at the register. You make the call.

Originally Posted by GeneW

I'm not being hard on you Brian but don't you think there was a reason that so many moons ago the Food Industry wanted longer shelf lives and a wider market?

The "Food Industry", like almost every other corporate venture, cares not one whit for you, your family or the world we live on. They care only about profits from quarter to quarter and lobby extremely hard - even threaten and hurt people - in order to keep the truth behind most of the things they do a secret. This is why not a single study linking long term exposure to industrial and synthetic chemicals used in "food" manufacturing to human health has ever been published.

If you have no problem with any of that then, by all means, go drink your artificially sweetened and preserved soda and eat your bleached bread and your dyed cheese and wipe your ass with chlorine bleached paper. They will love you for it.

[SilverBack]

So I guess it's possible to dissolve a tooth in cola then? Or is that just the cavity working?

[ddongbap]

The acid in your stomach is worse, isn't it?

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by k r a y z e e . j o j o

So I guess it's possible to dissolve a tooth in cola then? Or is that just the cavity working?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBus..._Uses_For_Cola regarding the Mythbusters "101 Uses for Cola" segment, where they tried to dissolve a tooth overnight:

The tooth did start to dissolve, indicating that with enough time it could be completely dissolved