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08-19-2006, 09:22 AM | #1 | |
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Subaru Might Sell Rebadged Toyotas
Subaru might rebadge Yaris and Aygo:
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08-19-2006, 11:01 AM | #2 | |
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Does any one know about the build quality of the Pontiac Vibes, which are essentially just re-badged Toyota Matrices? When these vehicles are rebadged for different auto makers, you get a similar (almost exact look oftentimes, save for subtle differences) but you also get the same quality you know you'd get if you bought a Toyota Matrix , or are you likely getting the same shoddy build that you'd get if you bought a sunfire (as an example) Thanks for the insight. Jem |
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08-19-2006, 01:23 PM | #3 |
I didn't know they made Yaris' in France? Mine said 100% Japan, so I guess they have more than one production plant. Kind of makes sense since it is the best selling car in the world But I wouldn't want mine to be built in France!
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08-19-2006, 01:25 PM | #4 | |
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Anyone confirm? |
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08-19-2006, 01:28 PM | #5 |
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With the vibe I'm pretty sure owners are experiencing buyer's remorse once they put the vehicle into the market for resale. People are very brand oriented, and for better or worse they will pay more for the better brand. For instance if lada or yugo came out with rebadged toyota's i'm sure that you would find that the original toyota version would be the better seller, and own the better resale down the line.
As far as the yaris and france, i'm pretty sure they're refering to the design which was done in france. The actual vehicles are made in japan, in Canada our vin's start with a J to indicate the country of origin. |
08-19-2006, 02:14 PM | #6 |
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well
Daihatsu is already selling re-badge bB in Japan. which is kinda weird... cuz both cars are sold in the same market |
08-19-2006, 03:15 PM | #7 |
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Hmm, i wonder.
4WD Sport Wagon 4D 06 Matrix MSRP - $18,375 05 @23k miles - $17,930 97% value 05 @23 Trade in - $13,550 AWD Sport Wagon 4D 06 Vibe MSRP - $ 19,990 05 @23k miles - $ 16,895 84% value 05 @23 Trade in - $12,550 I used the exact same model and options. The 05 is for dealer sale price for used and is another reason why i wont buy an american car, sigh. Thats kinda shitty for the exact same base car. |
08-19-2006, 08:41 PM | #8 | |
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Yes Remember the hatch was designed and engineered in France (I believe) not to say just because of that it will be built there but in this case yes. So all Yarii that goes to N/A are built in Japan-sedan and hatch.
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09-23-2006, 06:17 AM | #9 | |
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But I can say you the Toyota schedule of conditions is the same all over the world but sure you don't know Europe
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09-24-2006, 10:10 PM | #10 |
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Europeans get theirs from Toyota's French plant. North Americans, Australians and Japanese get theirs from the Japanese plant. South-east Asia will get it from the Thailand plant. I think there's another plant in Taiwan as well, but I'm not sure. Bear in mind that Toyota operates its plants on a single quality standard. So it doesn't matter if the plant's in Asia or Europe, it has the same strict standards as the one in their main factory in Japan.
BTW, the Aygo is made in a Czech factory co-owned with the French PSA (Citroen and Peugeot). The factory makes 100,000 Aygos, 100,000 Citroen C1s and 100,000 Peugeot 107s, 300,000 cars (just different badges) in total. All of the Aygos are currently for the European market only. |
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