Twin turbo dual exaust yaris 1NZ-FE setup?

[CtrlAltDefeat]

so they can twin-charge a yaris, twin-turbo a Miata, and twin charge a mini cooper , but a 2 small turbos in a yaris is laughable... ok...

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

so they can twin-charge a yaris, twin-turbo a Miata, and twin charge a mini cooper , but a 2 small turbos in a yaris is laughable... ok...

yes it is laughable.

the twin turbo miata is laughable too, but they do have more room to play with.

twin charging <> twin turbo (if you don't grasp that, we'd be glad to help you understand why they aren't the same).

[ka0sx]

If you do ever go through with this then. definitely go twin to single intake but run the turbos sequentially.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by ka0sx

If you do ever go through with this then. definitely go twin to single intake but run the turbos sequentially.

you think there is enough exhaust gases to warrant a sequential setup?

seems a little backwards since even the 3.0ltr supras consider a non sequential setup an upgrade.

but then again this thread seems to be more towards the hard parkers anyway.

[ka0sx]

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

you think there is enough exhaust gases to warrant a sequential setup?

seems a little backwards since even the 3.0ltr supras consider a non sequential setup an upgrade.

but then again this thread seems to be more towards the hard parkers anyway.

non sequential is good for straight roads. I usually drive twistiest. so having one turbo start boosting early gives you an ease in without having the sudden surge of power snapping your tires loose from the ground mid turn. I like a balanced power band. However If he does this or not is up to him, its owner pref. I guess.

as to being enough gasses, yes there is, I have seen even turbo charged lawn mowers.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by ka0sx

non sequential is good for straight roads. I usually drive twistiest. so having one turbo start boosting early gives you an ease in without having the sudden surge of power snapping your tires loose from the ground mid turn. I like a balanced power band. However If he does this or not is up to him, its owner pref. I guess.

as to being enough gasses, yes there is, I have seen even turbo charged lawn mowers.

seems like a hack.

make a stout mildly high compression motor (9.5:1) that makes decent power off boost then slap on a properly sized turbo 16g TD05 for example.

make about 275whp have full boost by 3500 rpm and be golden.

i said enough gases to warrant the sequential part of it. how often when in the "twisties" are you below 3k RPM?

[ka0sx]

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

seems like a hack.

make a stout mildly high compression motor (9.5:1) that makes decent power off boost then slap on a properly sized turbo 16g TD05 for example.

make about 275whp have full boost by 3500 rpm and be golden.

i said enough gases to warrant the sequential part of it. how often when in the "twisties" are you below 3k RPM?

in my old car? i never left 3rd gear, so 30% of the time, thank god for balanced runners, full torque 2400-6400 rpm.

I'm not going to argue with you as you seem to be stubborn as a mule on your opinion and apparently yours is the only one that counts. No one should ever do anything that is a viable solution everyone must conform.

[Tamago]

"i" have already proven that a "too large" VF39 meant for a subaru STI is a perfectly feasable and good-spooling turbo for a 10.5:1 1nzfe
















but hey, let's not listen to the people that know, let's talk out of our ass with no actual knowledge on the subject, and flame anyone with an opinion that is unlike our own.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

The reason I started this thread was basically to wonder aloud the advantages of 2 small, quicker spooling turbos with smaller pipes over 1 large turbo with large pipes, not to start a flame war over who knows what, and what experience you've had... Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded...

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

. Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded...

agreed, so quit saying it's a good idea and we'll quit proving you wrong

they also say..


insanity is doing (in your case, saying) the same thing over and over, expecting different results

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

The reason I started this thread was basically to wonder aloud the advantages of 2 small, quicker spooling turbos with smaller pipes over 1 large turbo with large pipes, not to start a flame war over who knows what, and what experience you've had... Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded...

so you're like competing in the special olympics?

if you think a twin turbo yaris will get you laid or win shows then do it, it has no performance benefit over a properly setup single turbo.

/thread

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Uh you won't prove any one wrong unless you somehow prove that no one on the planet can make a twin turbo yaris and that no one would ever appreciate driving it. You aren't proving any thing with flames and insults, either. Hypothetical questions are just that, hypothetical. If everyone refused to even give a hypothetical question a chance, we would still be living in caves. Why don't you give it a rest and go troll another forum. Everyone here already knows your opinion.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

Uh you won't prove any one wrong unless you somehow prove that no one on the planet can make a twin turbo yaris and that no one would ever appreciate driving it. You aren't proving any thing with flames and insults, either. Hypothetical questions are just that, hypothetical. If everyone refused to even give a hypothetical question a chance, we would still be living in caves. Why don't you give it a rest and go troll another forum. Everyone here already knows your opinion.

ok ok


hypothetically it's possible



you win.

[Nexus1155]

Tomatoes Tomagoes? Potatoes Potagoes? You know if someone has a hair brained scheme in their head like the 13b rotary in the yaris like a few have had it will probably happen in the future...

[CtrlAltDefeat]

I love it when flames stop a thread cold...

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

so you're like competing in the special olympics?

if you think a twin turbo yaris will get you laid or win shows then do it, it has no performance benefit over a properly setup single turbo.

/thread

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. People who are closed minded and unwilling to even consider alternative viewpoints will never advance anything. They will always follow what other people advance. They will always suffer the consequences of 2nd hand information. If people who ask "what if" listen to people like you, we'll never get anywhere. I really wanted intelligent discussion on the the possibilities of a twin-turbo yaris, not flames and insults, without proper reasons why it wouldn't work. If that's not possible for you, then I suggest you go somewhere else, we know your opinion already.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. People who are closed minded and unwilling to even consider alternative viewpoints will never advance anything. They will always follow what other people advance. They will always suffer the consequences of 2nd hand information. If people who ask "what if" listen to people like you, we'll never get anywhere. I really wanted intelligent discussion on the the possibilities of a twin-turbo yaris, not flames and insults, without proper reasons why it wouldn't work. If that's not possible for you, then I suggest you go somewhere else, we know your opinion already.

haha,

reasons why it's a waste of money.

1.) nearly 2x as heavy as a single turbo
2.) nearly 2x as much piping (and the issues that come with routing piping)
3.) nearly 2x as much oil lines
4.) 10x more custom fabrication for zero benefit
5.) Exactly the same amount of power if not less (due to the excess heat of two turbos)

5 "proper" reasons why it would be a "bad" idea.

oh wait, b/c I didn't suck your balls and say you had the best idea in the world you're sad. haha.

now, if you want to do this, more power to you. I look forward to the progression of your project and I hope you post ALL of your success/failures on here so we can live vicariously through someone who has the means to try something like a twin turbo yaris.

love to see a match up against garm's single when you're done.

no hard feelings but my $$'s on the single turbo setup (obviously).

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. .

have you ever jumped out of an airplane sans-parachute?

you should give it a try...