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eric81 · 05-18-2009, 04:15 PM

I have had a lot of trouble with 2nd as well. I thought it was just me, but it makes me feel better others are having issues with it too. I noticed it is finiky until it has fully warmed up. Try letting it warm up a little before racing. It is better for the engine, tranny, and other parts too.

IllusionX · 05-18-2009, 11:53 PM

Guys.. it's not the first time Toyota is having problems with the synchro of the manual transmissions on the 1nz-fe.

Afaik, the yaris and the echo do NOT have the same transmissions, and the echo also had problems entering 2nd gear under WOT acceleration.

regal · 05-25-2009, 05:08 AM

The clutch is almost unuseable for 1st. I was on a hill trying to use the clutch to get into first, died twice, when it finally caught I was off guard and shot right over the curb,
I wonder if these after market ckutches cure these pproblems?

CtrlAltDefeat · 05-25-2009, 06:08 AM

This is weird, I've never had any problems with my clutch. I also drive it pretty fast most places... I've driven other manuals before without noticing a big difference in the clutch travel (mostly domestics, mostly Pontiacs...) As far as 1st gear, my understanding it that you pretty much cannot use it unless you are going really slow. I learned that by grinding it a couple of times when I was getting used to a MT again. As far as I can tell 2nd is fine for most slower speeds...

JBIZZ · 05-25-2009, 07:38 PM

I use to have the same problem, but believe its mostly due to human error. However, I switched to Redline MT-90 and no longer have that issue. I believe that the Yaris can handle it more so than a Camaro or Mustang could (abuse wise). In My opinion the Yaris has the potential to be the most affordable/fuel efficient/reliable performance car.

scape · 05-26-2009, 09:03 AM

i'm not a big fan of first gear on my yaris either, and sometimes I feel like it simply won't downshift until the engine is ready and fine...but that said and among other problems, I've tried a few things to get off the line quickly. the best thing I found is make sure the clutch is fully engaged with the engine, a nice solid connection and blast it out to maybe 3-4500 (I don't have a tach but I'm pretty sure this is the speed I get it to) and shift to 2nd, make sure the connection is fully engaged again, then accelerate out of second-- sometimes the stick almost pops into 2nd by itself.
if the clutch is partially engaged in first when I take off too, too fast, 2nd gear never connects correctly and the clutch ends up skimming and not getting good grip. I would agree, don't race this clutch, I've smelt some nasty transmission burn once or twice from not having the clutch fully engaged and revving it out too much; poor dry clutch ;-\

interesting to note the fluid change, perhaps that's in store for my next maintenance.

05-25-2009, 06:08 AM	#4
CtrlAltDefeat I ♥ Yaris View User's Garage Drives: Black 08 LB MT & red 97 Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,313	This is weird, I've never had any problems with my clutch. I also drive it pretty fast most places... I've driven other manuals before without noticing a big difference in the clutch travel (mostly domestics, mostly Pontiacs...) As far as 1st gear, my understanding it that you pretty much cannot use it unless you are going really slow. I learned that by grinding it a couple of times when I was getting used to a MT again. As far as I can tell 2nd is fine for most slower speeds... __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

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05-18-2009, 04:15 PM	#1
eric81 View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Salesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Clarksville, IN Posts: 297	I have had a lot of trouble with 2nd as well. I thought it was just me, but it makes me feel better others are having issues with it too. I noticed it is finiky until it has fully warmed up. Try letting it warm up a little before racing. It is better for the engine, tranny, and other parts too.

05-18-2009, 11:53 PM	#2
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	Guys.. it's not the first time Toyota is having problems with the synchro of the manual transmissions on the 1nz-fe. Afaik, the yaris and the echo do NOT have the same transmissions, and the echo also had problems entering 2nd gear under WOT acceleration.

05-25-2009, 05:08 AM	#3
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	The clutch is almost unuseable for 1st. I was on a hill trying to use the clutch to get into first, died twice, when it finally caught I was off guard and shot right over the curb, I wonder if these after market ckutches cure these pproblems?

05-25-2009, 07:38 PM	#5
JBIZZ Drives: 2007 Liftback white Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 122	I use to have the same problem, but believe its mostly due to human error. However, I switched to Redline MT-90 and no longer have that issue. I believe that the Yaris can handle it more so than a Camaro or Mustang could (abuse wise). In My opinion the Yaris has the potential to be the most affordable/fuel efficient/reliable performance car.

05-26-2009, 09:03 AM	#6
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	i'm not a big fan of first gear on my yaris either, and sometimes I feel like it simply won't downshift until the engine is ready and fine...but that said and among other problems, I've tried a few things to get off the line quickly. the best thing I found is make sure the clutch is fully engaged with the engine, a nice solid connection and blast it out to maybe 3-4500 (I don't have a tach but I'm pretty sure this is the speed I get it to) and shift to 2nd, make sure the connection is fully engaged again, then accelerate out of second-- sometimes the stick almost pops into 2nd by itself. if the clutch is partially engaged in first when I take off too, too fast, 2nd gear never connects correctly and the clutch ends up skimming and not getting good grip. I would agree, don't race this clutch, I've smelt some nasty transmission burn once or twice from not having the clutch fully engaged and revving it out too much; poor dry clutch ;-\ interesting to note the fluid change, perhaps that's in store for my next maintenance.