Ford Fiesta vs. Yaris

[twowheels]

Originally Posted by aclark246

Now with the EPA actually testing it the highway is something like 35 mpg.

Do you actually think that's why it went down? You do realize that they changed their method of calculation and all cars went down, right?

[Airforce1]

Very nice.....i love the car but i cannot see myself driving a ford....haha i dont know why i just cant get over that

[firebob]

Ford stopped work on the Fiesta during the auto makers bail out. This was done because it was not a hybrid. As far as I know they are going to keep the door open to the money but they want the GM stuff worked out first. If they put money into a non hybrid it will nock them out of the money option.

Aclark
I think the E90 law started in 2007. I think this dropped the MPG from 40 to 35 mpg. By this time next year we till be driving E85 so it will drop one more time.


In the next 4 to 5 years I do not see a 4 wheel US car getting a better gas mileage then the Yaris unless it is a 3 cylinder, a hybrid, or high test gas.

[mryaris]

Originally Posted by firebob

I think the E90 law started in 2007. I think this dropped the MPG from 40 to 35 mpg. By this time next year we till be driving E85 so it will drop one more time.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I suspect you just mistyped. Right now E10 is the predominant fuel mixture (10% ethanol & 90% gasoline).........E85 can only be run in flex fuel cars and is 85% ethanol & 15% gasoline. I think you just got it backwards.....what you call E90 is actually E10, etc.

FWIW, we have always had oxygenated gas here in Colorado (at least as long as I've lived here/been driving). Originally it was MTBE, but that was phased out several years ago as it pollutes ground water pretty substantially, now ethanol has claimed the throne.

That said, I use E10 and have used E10/oxygenated gas in all of my cars since the mid-80's and have never noticed any appreciable drop in fuel economy. I average 37 MPG in my Yaris HB and hit 40MPG on my last tank.

As for the Fiesta.....it is a very nice looking car. I don't care much for Ford's either, but it is still a sharp car. I'll have to go check one out at the dealer. I happened to see one in Boulder on Memorial Day and wanted to get a closer look, but I was running a 10K race and stopping would have hurt worse than if I just kept running! :)

[firebob]

I’m not a chemist and don’t under stand it all…

So I have it backwards. We are currently using E10 right now but soon it will be replaced by E15. E85 is flex fuel.

I do know that ethanol is an oxygen additive and the older popular one was MTBE. Are they now using both now in some places?

I have tested gas right out of the hose from time to time and the largest amount of ethanol I have found was about 38% using one of these things.

[Thirty-Nine]

Regardless, I really think the Fiesta is a great looking vehicle that's long overdue in the U.S.

[Pitt Yaris]

The interior is pretty awesome. That's one of the only thing the yaris lacks.

[mr9865]

if you want to know more about the fiesta, here is a link to someone who got one to drive from ford here in the states. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=198086

[nemelek]

If or when it gets here and I was in the market for a new car, I would take a look at it before blindely buying another Yaris.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by vector9mm

First off, I love my yaris, but I average 34 MPG and for a small car that's not good. I just read about the Fiesta comming to the USA and it rocks. They say it should get a combined average of 40 MPG and has 120 HP and 112 lb. ft. of torque. To top it off it weighs 2,158. This thing ought to really scoot. I knew that this kind of car could be built to get near what the hybribs get in MPG. I'm not ready to ditch my Yaris but in a few years who knows. I predict that Toyota will make some improvements to the Yaris to keep up. Of course I would trust my Yaris over the Fiesta in reliability.

I'm sure it'll scoot, at least away from the Ford Dealership. Towards the dealership? Doubt it it'll scoot, more likely either tow or limp there.

Ford could screw up a baseball bat.

Gene

[voodoo22]

The Fiesta is a great looking car and even though it's substantially smaller than the Yaris, Interior room appears to be about the same and if it delivers on 40 combined it can only cause good things to happen in the competition for the economy car purchasers dollar.

I personally will be disappointed if our next car uses any gas at all.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

The Fiesta is a great looking car and even though it's substantially smaller than the Yaris....

The Fiesta is about the same size as the Yaris Liftback. There's only about a 4" difference in length from what I can find.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

The Fiesta is about the same size as the Yaris Liftback. There's only about a 4" difference in length from what I can find.

You're right, I was thinking about the Sedan which is quite a bit longer.

I doubt I'll ever see the interior of a fiesta, but it would be interesting to see how the interior space compares as interior ergonomics is where I find the domestics fail the most. I remember smashing my knees into an old impala which was longer than a house trailer, but had less leg room than a civic.

[Bredayaris]

Eeuhm the Fiesta is bigger than the Yaris for the liftback that is!
I've searched for the length Yaris: 149'' the Fiesta: 155.5''

But my brother's mother in law has the new Fiesta and she already has many problems with this car!!
The a/c unit doesn't work already and she has several other electronical problems with it!

Me and my boyfriend (isn't the English language egoistic ;-) ) had several Fords 2 times a Focus and i had a Escort but those were problem cars too..

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by Bredayaris

Eeuhm the Fiesta is bigger than the Yaris for the liftback that is!
I've searched for the length Yaris: 149'' the Fiesta: 155.5''

But my brother's mother in law has the new Fiesta and she already has many problems with this car!!
The a/c unit doesn't work already and she has several other electronical problems with it!

Me and my boyfriend (isn't the English language egoistic ;-) ) had several Fords 2 times a Focus and i had a Escort but those were problem cars too..

Loving the elitest actions here.

[ddongbap]

I'd totally rock a Fiesta.

[Thirty-Nine]

FYI, I got to drive a 2011 Fiesta. Full article here:

http://bit.ly/7hEy5

I must say: I was very impressed with the Fiesta. It should be a great car for Ford in the U.S.

[wooverstone8]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

FYI, I got to drive a 2011 Fiesta. Full article here:

http://bit.ly/7hEy5


I must say: I was very impressed with the Fiesta. It should be a great car for Ford in the U.S.

Excellent Review!

I'm not fan of the styling for Fiesta though, but I'm glad to see more small cars entering the market here in the states.