Throttle Lag On DBW - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

puetato89 · 06-24-2009, 06:00 PM

Im glad i found this... info was very helpful but Tamago's avatar is giving me seizures :)

AlexNet0 · 06-24-2009, 10:52 PM

And the lag is definetely present on mine, I just press the pedal sooner, timing is everything, and when you are used to the feel of DFCO (i have no gauges), you can use it to your advantage to gain some MPG's

Jeemee · 06-25-2009, 01:19 AM

I absolutely hate the DBW. It took me a good while to get used to it. Stalled it a lot at first lol. Oh, and my car is basically stock and my 0-60 is 7.85sec, my 0-70 is 10.45, and my 0-80 is 13.32 lol

eric81 · 06-26-2009, 01:36 AM

I now work for Toyota, (just started today), and I test drove a 2009 Yaris, automatic, jolt yellow. I turned the A/C on, and noticed a bit of lag, then turned it off, and can't figure out what you guys are talking about. Maybe there is some, but it is a SMALL engine, so take that into account, and try driving with the a/c off and see if it is different. If problem persists, take it back to the dealership and tell them you think there may be an engine problem. Problem is not there in the manuals, by the way.

Yaris Hilton · 06-26-2009, 03:41 AM

No problem in my automatic, either.

bronsin · 06-26-2009, 09:29 AM

Both my wifes 05 Camry and my 09 Yaris have this problem. Good luck going to the dealer. We tried that at two dealers with the Camry and got no where. The wife feels its something she can live with. My son notices it right away. He dislikes driving it when he goes into the city. Some of his friends volunteered that their family's Toyotas do the same thing. But the general consensus is its something you get used to. As a mechanic I know this is going to play hell with the drivetrain down the line. I guess Consumer Reports had the right idea when they downgraded their "best buy" recommendation for Toyotas.

bronsin · 06-26-2009, 09:49 AM

I make my living fixing things. I know trouble when I see it. The wifes car is five years old and now makes groaning noises in the drive train. I (tried to) warn her to be very gentle accelerating from a stop because of this problem. But just like the Toyota engineers she knows more than me! She takes off with a good shove on the accelerator to make up for the lag. I let the Yaris roll a bit before accelerating and baby it as much as possible. I lobby as much as I can to get rid of that Camry before the bottom falls out of it! Wife loves it. What you gonna do?

mikenacarato · 06-26-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

But just like the Toyota engineers she knows more than me!

hey man....you said it...not us.

im witih pk on this one....i think toyota knows a thing or two about making a car. if you dont think so i believe you purchased the wrong car.

ScubaSteve · 07-03-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK198105

lol you clearly haven't owned many Toyotas, Camry is the most reliable vehicle i know , in Montreal ( city of salt and snow and crap during winters) 80% of taxis are Camrys. The bottom will fall from under it way after all the american cars leave their engines and trannies on the highway. I have no problems with my Yaris and its been 2 years not a single weird noise

Thumbs up to a car that can withstand a Canadian winter.

bronsin · 06-26-2009, 11:55 AM

Ah the "I drive a (insert name of vehicle) so nothing could possibly be wrong with it!" syndrome!

Tamago · 06-26-2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Ah the "I drive a (insert name of vehicle) so nothing could possibly be wrong with it!" syndrome!

well this IS a yaris forum lol

mikenacarato · 06-26-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Ah the "I drive a (insert name of vehicle) so nothing could possibly be wrong with it!" syndrome!

this isnt my only car and certainly not my first car, but i did go with toyota (this is my first one) due to reliability and poeples recommendations to me. before you make statements liek that bronsin make sure you know the person. it seems that YOUR the one with all the toyotas you hate so much.....

eric81 · 06-26-2009, 12:52 PM

Toyota's and Honda's are the two leading cars i the US and many other countries for a reason. Heck, they are even so bold as to call out their own problems and tell everyone who those problems came from in public meetings! (Just check out the last Toyota meeting in Japan... the head guy dimed out his own kids for the 1.4 billion dollar loss, and even said how they could have prevented it.) And as far as their cars lasting a long time... It is the Honda Odessy, Honda Accord, Toyota Sienna, and Toyota Camry that hold the top 4 spots for best resale value, because they do last an incredibly long time with minimal to no problems. Toyota might actually know what they are talking about here.

cali yaris · 06-26-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

But just like the Toyota engineers she knows more than me!

Probably as it should be.

(sorry, couldn't resist that one!)

mikenacarato · 06-26-2009, 01:49 PM

hahaha nice garm! i dont think its been mentioned BUT throttle lag on almost every DBW car is a normal thing....

anyways heres the score

YW1
Garm 1
bronsin 0

PhilD424 · 06-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Yeah my mom has a 2007 Toyota Yaris HB and I notice the throttle lag and the Fuel Cutoff. I don't care for DBW nor the Fuel cut off. The lag is really bad I don't like it at all. The Fuel cut off is annoying because it feels weird when it engages and its a pain to wait for the DBW to respond, and the pump to come back on. When this happens the car lurches forward no matter how much throttle your applying. Driving in NYC I can tell you its a real pain in the ass and when your driving on streets and the car lurches forward by a crosswalk or something you get dirty looks from people crossing. BTW with the A/C turned on things get worse because of the load the A/C puts on the small engine. I mean to take off at a decent speed from a light with the A/C on I gottha go half way down or more sometimes. Going up hills is another challenge.

TheSilkySmooth · 06-29-2009, 07:44 PM

100+ Hp and 2300 lbs. Easy 0-60 in 8. I grew up when economy cars had 36-75 hp and weighed a ton (Except the Fiesta or Fiat128).

cali yaris · 06-29-2009, 07:45 PM

This is exactly what you said. "Easy".

Quote:

I think im in the 7 sec range easy on good gas. If i figue out how to set up the digital camera I'll make a viddy and U can see if im FOS or not.

Only one way to settle it. Have someone else hold the camera. Here's mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk1YYkwOGtI

There is no excuse after making this claim not to post your proof, show and tell time!

06-24-2009, 06:00 PM	#1
puetato89 Just call me Ray, better? View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: orlando Posts: 1,056	Im glad i found this... info was very helpful but Tamago's avatar is giving me seizures :) __________________

06-24-2009, 10:52 PM	#2
AlexNet0 View User's Garage Drives: '07 Yaris 3dr Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rockland, ME Posts: 1,638	And the lag is definetely present on mine, I just press the pedal sooner, timing is everything, and when you are used to the feel of DFCO (i have no gauges), you can use it to your advantage to gain some MPG's __________________ ---------- MI-YW ----------

06-25-2009, 01:19 AM	#3
Jeemee XBL: Jeemee Ghost View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 199	I absolutely hate the DBW. It took me a good while to get used to it. Stalled it a lot at first lol. Oh, and my car is basically stock and my 0-60 is 7.85sec, my 0-70 is 10.45, and my 0-80 is 13.32 lol __________________ _________________________________________________ Nitto Axle-Back--Tanabe DF210s--UR 23mm Rear Sway Bar--Penguin Garage 10mm Hub Spacers

06-26-2009, 07:02 PM	#16
PhilD424 Drives: Red Yaris Join Date: May 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 80	Yeah my mom has a 2007 Toyota Yaris HB and I notice the throttle lag and the Fuel Cutoff. I don't care for DBW nor the Fuel cut off. The lag is really bad I don't like it at all. The Fuel cut off is annoying because it feels weird when it engages and its a pain to wait for the DBW to respond, and the pump to come back on. When this happens the car lurches forward no matter how much throttle your applying. Driving in NYC I can tell you its a real pain in the ass and when your driving on streets and the car lurches forward by a crosswalk or something you get dirty looks from people crossing. BTW with the A/C turned on things get worse because of the load the A/C puts on the small engine. I mean to take off at a decent speed from a light with the A/C on I gottha go half way down or more sometimes. Going up hills is another challenge. __________________ -Phil

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06-26-2009, 01:36 AM	#4
eric81 View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Salesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Clarksville, IN Posts: 297	I now work for Toyota, (just started today), and I test drove a 2009 Yaris, automatic, jolt yellow. I turned the A/C on, and noticed a bit of lag, then turned it off, and can't figure out what you guys are talking about. Maybe there is some, but it is a SMALL engine, so take that into account, and try driving with the a/c off and see if it is different. If problem persists, take it back to the dealership and tell them you think there may be an engine problem. Problem is not there in the manuals, by the way.

06-26-2009, 03:41 AM	#5
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	No problem in my automatic, either.

06-26-2009, 09:29 AM	#6
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Both my wifes 05 Camry and my 09 Yaris have this problem. Good luck going to the dealer. We tried that at two dealers with the Camry and got no where. The wife feels its something she can live with. My son notices it right away. He dislikes driving it when he goes into the city. Some of his friends volunteered that their family's Toyotas do the same thing. But the general consensus is its something you get used to. As a mechanic I know this is going to play hell with the drivetrain down the line. I guess Consumer Reports had the right idea when they downgraded their "best buy" recommendation for Toyotas.

06-26-2009, 09:49 AM	#7
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	I make my living fixing things. I know trouble when I see it. The wifes car is five years old and now makes groaning noises in the drive train. I (tried to) warn her to be very gentle accelerating from a stop because of this problem. But just like the Toyota engineers she knows more than me! She takes off with a good shove on the accelerator to make up for the lag. I let the Yaris roll a bit before accelerating and baby it as much as possible. I lobby as much as I can to get rid of that Camry before the bottom falls out of it! Wife loves it. What you gonna do?

06-26-2009, 11:55 AM	#10
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Ah the "I drive a (insert name of vehicle) so nothing could possibly be wrong with it!" syndrome!

06-26-2009, 12:52 PM	#13
eric81 View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Salesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Clarksville, IN Posts: 297	Toyota's and Honda's are the two leading cars i the US and many other countries for a reason. Heck, they are even so bold as to call out their own problems and tell everyone who those problems came from in public meetings! (Just check out the last Toyota meeting in Japan... the head guy dimed out his own kids for the 1.4 billion dollar loss, and even said how they could have prevented it.) And as far as their cars lasting a long time... It is the Honda Odessy, Honda Accord, Toyota Sienna, and Toyota Camry that hold the top 4 spots for best resale value, because they do last an incredibly long time with minimal to no problems. Toyota might actually know what they are talking about here.

06-26-2009, 01:49 PM	#15
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	hahaha nice garm! i dont think its been mentioned BUT throttle lag on almost every DBW car is a normal thing.... anyways heres the score YW1 Garm 1 bronsin 0

06-29-2009, 07:44 PM	#17
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	100+ Hp and 2300 lbs. Easy 0-60 in 8. I grew up when economy cars had 36-75 hp and weighed a ton (Except the Fiesta or Fiat128).