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TLyttle · 07-03-2009, 10:52 PM

Sorry TinyGiant, I don't buy much of that for the simple reason that you have already made up your mind, and therefore objectivity is now foreign to you. I've seen and heard all this before, from various sources, all claiming to have figured it out, but are still tripped up by their religious fervor. As long as you insist on comparing these other beliefs to the Christian standards and find them wanting, then you are following the same path that keeps the JW and SDAs so obnoxious. Tell me that you are a Christian, fine, but please don't tell me that Christianity is the only route through a worthwhile life.

All the religions look for the same results I mentioned, the only exception being the Muslim religion and their fixation about killing infidels to get to heaven: that one is a sad commentary on a World religion. If one need religion to maintain a productive and benevolent life, that is their choice; for the rest of us who live that way without a religious urge, we are happy just the same.

TinyGiant · 07-03-2009, 11:18 PM

regardless of what i believe all religions can't be true if they contradict one another. one has to be right.

Bob Dog · 07-04-2009, 09:15 AM

Actually no one or any religion must be correct; they are appear to be cultural constructs which explain the experience of a greater mind/conciousness, which there is a fairly universal agreement seems to exist, but no one of them is necessarily, or inherently correct.

HTM Yaris · 07-04-2009, 12:00 PM

When everybody learns to replace God or Budha or Allah or whatever with LOVE , the world will be a better place . When is everybody going to realize that Heaven/Hell is right here , right now . Life is what YOU make of it . Life is making decisions on the circumstances that have manifested before you .
We all go through good times and adversities . It is learning to deal with both that makes people strong or weak .

I believe people will eventually discard all religions . All religions are flawed . Personally I think that God , Allah , Budha , Odin , Zeus , and any other "supreme beings" should get together and duke it out . The last one remaining is the one that we should worship . Instead of letting people think that they are doing their God's bidding by killing each other .That is pathetic and weak . But we all know that won't happen . Religion only exist where there is fear/hatred . Love/knowledge will make all religions extinct .

Every generation gets smarter . There is only one permanent thing in this universe ....Changes .

gokartride · 07-04-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

Every generation gets smarter.

I'm not so sure about that.

Kaotic Lazagna · 07-04-2009, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

When everybody learns to replace God or Budha or Allah or whatever with LOVE , the world will be a better place . When is everybody going to realize that Heaven/Hell is right here , right now . Life is what YOU make of it . Life is making decisions on the circumstances that have manifested before you .
We all go through good times and adversities . It is learning to deal with both that makes people strong or weak .

I believe people will eventually discard all religions . All religions are flawed . Personally I think that God , Allah , Budha , Odin , Zeus , and any other "supreme beings" should get together and duke it out . The last one remaining is the one that we should worship . Instead of letting people think that they are doing their God's bidding by killing each other .That is pathetic and weak . But we all know that won't happen . Religion only exist where there is fear/hatred . Love/knowledge will make all religions extinct .

Every generation gets smarter . There is only one permanent thing in this universe ....Changes .

TLyttle · 07-04-2009, 10:31 PM

Apparently, all those deities are the same when looked at objectively.

I long ago figured that we live Heaven and Hell right here, right now: for me, Heaven was being able to have a handicapped person smile and say thanks for a device I built to make their life easier, Hell was coming home to find my wife gone, blood on the floor, and cops all over the place...

Every generation gets smarter is a generalisation, and it has too much to do with education. As the education system slowly drifts away into secularism, free thinking becomes more acceptable. The bad side of that is that not everyone thinks about those whose circumstances are worse than ours. Education (IMHO) cannot be enhanced by enforced religious exposure!

07-03-2009, 11:18 PM	#2
TinyGiant Tiny Giant Clothing View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Blazing Blue Yaris 3D LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rochester, NH Posts: 3,394	regardless of what i believe all religions can't be true if they contradict one another. one has to be right. __________________ Sold the yaris... rocking an 89 vw cabriolet now :)

07-04-2009, 09:15 AM	#3
Bob Dog DARK PHASE OF THE MOON Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: the Boondocks, NC Posts: 993	Actually no one or any religion must be correct; they are appear to be cultural constructs which explain the experience of a greater mind/conciousness, which there is a fairly universal agreement seems to exist, but no one of them is necessarily, or inherently correct. Last edited by Bob Dog; 07-04-2009 at 01:33 PM.

07-04-2009, 12:00 PM	#4
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	When everybody learns to replace God or Budha or Allah or whatever with LOVE , the world will be a better place . When is everybody going to realize that Heaven/Hell is right here , right now . Life is what YOU make of it . Life is making decisions on the circumstances that have manifested before you . We all go through good times and adversities . It is learning to deal with both that makes people strong or weak . I believe people will eventually discard all religions . All religions are flawed . Personally I think that God , Allah , Budha , Odin , Zeus , and any other "supreme beings" should get together and duke it out . The last one remaining is the one that we should worship . Instead of letting people think that they are doing their God's bidding by killing each other .That is pathetic and weak . But we all know that won't happen . Religion only exist where there is fear/hatred . Love/knowledge will make all religions extinct . Every generation gets smarter . There is only one permanent thing in this universe ....Changes . __________________

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07-03-2009, 10:52 PM	#1
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	Sorry TinyGiant, I don't buy much of that for the simple reason that you have already made up your mind, and therefore objectivity is now foreign to you. I've seen and heard all this before, from various sources, all claiming to have figured it out, but are still tripped up by their religious fervor. As long as you insist on comparing these other beliefs to the Christian standards and find them wanting, then you are following the same path that keeps the JW and SDAs so obnoxious. Tell me that you are a Christian, fine, but please don't tell me that Christianity is the only route through a worthwhile life. All the religions look for the same results I mentioned, the only exception being the Muslim religion and their fixation about killing infidels to get to heaven: that one is a sad commentary on a World religion. If one need religion to maintain a productive and benevolent life, that is their choice; for the rest of us who live that way without a religious urge, we are happy just the same.

07-04-2009, 10:31 PM	#7
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	Apparently, all those deities are the same when looked at objectively. I long ago figured that we live Heaven and Hell right here, right now: for me, Heaven was being able to have a handicapped person smile and say thanks for a device I built to make their life easier, Hell was coming home to find my wife gone, blood on the floor, and cops all over the place... Every generation gets smarter is a generalisation, and it has too much to do with education. As the education system slowly drifts away into secularism, free thinking becomes more acceptable. The bad side of that is that not everyone thinks about those whose circumstances are worse than ours. Education (IMHO) cannot be enhanced by enforced religious exposure!