Toyota Recalls

[eht13]

OK, I think it's safe to start calling bullshit on some of these complaints... like people are sitting around thinking of things that could be wrong with Toyotas, and because of the situation everyone takes it seriously. The government and the media are doing nothing to alleviate concerns, and may actually be contributing to them.

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Originally Posted by eht13

OK, I think it's safe to start calling bullshit on some of these complaints... like people are sitting around thinking of things that could be wrong with Toyotas, and because of the situation everyone takes it seriously. The government and the media are doing nothing to alleviate concerns, and may actually be contributing to them.

yup

[1NZYaris1]

look on the bright side at least Toyota does the recall when the cars are new ..
Unlike Honda's latest recall on 450,000 cars dateing back to 2001
for fualty airbags

[*MAD DOG*]

Toyota has finally recalled the Prius here in Australia.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news...l/1746793.aspx

[marcus]

*** another update...yesterdays news toronto. heard it on a radio.

some ex employee also revealed a previous toyota cover up on recalls.. this is just killing the TOYOTA reputation.. hope this is a hoax...

[Hard_Yaris]

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

[why?]

Originally Posted by Hard_Yaris

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

any first gen air bag could have done that to a small enough person in the wrong circumstance.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by Hard_Yaris

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

Honda is the one with the crazy airbags

http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/2010/...8-000-vehicles

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/31/hon...all/index.html

[nemelek]

I have owned a few throw away cars in my life. A 72 Vega good for 80,000 miles and a 78 Ford Courier also good for 80,000 miles. To my knowledge no recalls on them, however, these vehicles should have never been built.

[MadMax]

Finally, the truth is being told...

Relatively few complain about Toyota

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Despite a torrent of high-profile recalls that have tarnished Toyota's once stellar reputation, a study published Wednesday reveals that the automaker actually gets fewer customer complaints per car than the majority of its competitors.

Edmunds.com reviewed more than 200,000 complaints filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) over the last decade and found that Toyota ranked 17th among the top 20 automakers in the overall number of complaints per vehicle sold.

The results come amid a series of recalls totaling more than 8.1 million Toyotas worldwide, including 400,000 of the popular 2010 Prius hybrid for problems associated with sticking brake pedals, software glitches and faulty floormats.

As a result, British carmaker Land Rover had the highest proportion of complaints relative to the number of cars it sold. The company received 0.6% of the total complaints in the database, while its sales amounted to only 0.1% of all new cars sold in the United States.

Meanwhile, Toyota had 9.1% of all the complaints in the database. But the company was number 17 on the list because its sales made up 13.5% of the U.S. market.

According to the study, Toyota had fewer complaints than its American rivals. Ford was number 10 on the list, while General Motors came in at number 11.

The only automakers to receive fewer complaints than Toyota were Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and the Mercedes-made Smart Car.

Among the other automakers that ranked high on the list were Suzuki and Isuzu, which came in at numbers 2 and 3 respectively. German automaker Volkswagen came in at number 4.

The complaints lodged against Toyota ranged from minor problems with lighting to more serious issues such as sudden acceleration and difficulty steering. But the study did not rate the reported incidences for severity.

Edmunds.com said that it found some unreliable reports in the database, including one complaint indicating that 99 people had died in one vehicle as a result of an accident. It also said that about 10% of the complaints appeared to be duplicates.

Quality control: Not just Toyota's problem

While the issues raised by Toyota's recent recalls shouldn't be overlooked, quality control concerns are apparent across the entire automobile industry, said Jeremy Anwyl, Edmunds.com chief executive.

"A broader view shows that consumer complaints reflect an industry issue, not just a Toyota issue," said Anwyl. "It is no longer an option for car companies to dismiss consumer complaints, even if the event is difficult to replicate or diagnose."

Some automakers assume that customer complaints are the result of driver error and not necessarily a reflection of design problems, said Jeannine Fallon, an Edmunds.com analyst.

"It depends on the culture of the car company," she said. "But it's clear now that Toyota has not had very many conversations with NHTSA."

The study was based on the percentage of complaints each automaker received versus the total number of vehicles they sold in the United States between 2001 and 2010.

Of course, we all knew this. It is just nice that some in the press aren't hopping on the hysteria bandwagon...

Cheers! M2

[why?]

so 99 people died 1 one car in one accident? Hmm, so now we know where all the clowns went.

[eric81]

Toyota's aren't selling for less, but rather they are simply being fixed at Toyota's expense and selling for the same they were 6 months ago. Amazingly, we haven't really been hurt b this recall, as we still are selling more cars than anyone else on the block. And we have ALL the manufacturers on the block, so no one is excluded. This is not to metion that "Geting the cars fixed" is something that won't cost anyone anything, because Toyota is footing ALL the bills here. Just another way for them to make more money. Want to see a real failed product? Dodge claims the best minivan on the market, with their Dodge Caravan, yet I haven't heard of more than 2 or 3 making it past the 120K mark. The engines keep blowing up. And I am sure plenty of people can back me up on Toyota's longevity. I see more than I care to count over 150K miles, and lately we have even taken several in on trade that are over 200K miles. We are even selling them on the lot, so if anyone is interested in a high mileage Toyota, let me know. I will continue to be a supporter of Toyota, as I was before I started working there, and I will be long afterwards. Heck, even theives know where the money is. Toyota sports 3 of the top 10 vehicles stolen in the US.

[eht13]

Another potentially stupid investigation... http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/17/auto...dex.htm?hpt=T2

[chew246214]

Not to start waves... but Eric we are from the same neck of the woods, and I used to before I moved actually sell your coworkers parts for their dodge/jeep vehicles. I have to disagree with you on the caravan thing... they do last just like any other car out there and I know a ton that went well over 120,000 miles... and some over 300,000 mark, rare to see them at the dealership with that milage but once in awhile.... they might not be the prettiest thingsout there but they do work great as a minivan.... a 3.3 with the trans especially after 2000 are the most solid drivetrain you can get in them. make it a short wheelbase without rear a/c and not much to fix on them front shock mounts and swaybar bushings are the most common complaints on them. might not be pretty but will run with the best of them. And who could beat the price, like any other american brand they don't hold their value so you can pick up a used one cheap... Working for dodge I bought a new one fully loaded except leather for 13,500 that was in 2007.. can't go wrong there. still have her and running strong not one problem yet....

[Hershey]

not stupid . We test drove an '09 COROLLA and the steering was one of the reasons why we went with the YARIS . The COROLLA seemed to wander ( lose ) on the interstate during the drive . The YARIS more tight . Someone we know that has an '09 says her steering seems awkward . Not sure if the electronic steering in the COROLLA is set up different than that of the YARIS . Programming ? Parts ? The 2 YARIS we have are quite tight and responsive . Like the ride of the YARIS better . The COROLLA had more engine noise too . Maybe due to the 5w-20 motor oil that's now used in the newly designed 1.8 ltr. motor for the '09 and 2010 COROLLAs . The new engine STEERED us away from the COROLLA as well .

[chew246214]

I have to say sorry to eric, I thought you were somebody else I was never from CO. northern NJ now in RI.... sorry I mixed you up... but I still do believe in caravans......

[slothman86]

This is getting plain stupid. Hopefully the FT-86 saves toyotas ass

[eht13]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/21/auto...ion=2010022208