Toyota Recalls

[Yaris Hilton]

Originally Posted by Sidicas

The timing of the recall was absolutely perfect.. Have you seen Toyota's stocks plummet?
One person's catastrophe is another person's opportunity..

I'm buying up Toyota stocks like crazy now..

My wife and I were just discussing this. There's money to be made there. Toyota will rebound.

[scribbler]

Originally Posted by auxmike

I'm sure most of you have seen the news about the "sticky" gas pedals recall on the way.
THANK GOD the Yaris is not on the list. We also did'nt get hit with the floormat thing either.
This does not bode well on Toyota. Two problems with potential runaway acceleration with in a couple of months, that sucks!

MMMMMM i though Yaris was not on list however today found out it was.
According to news reports in UK.
We have a 2009 yaris 7 months old sad to say not happy with it Clutch failed
leaving my disabled daughter and I in middle of nowhere .They say it was
makers error I hate to think what else could go wrong with car.

[eric81]

Ok... so has ANYONE really checked into these things, or does everyone just watch the news and then let that be facts? We clearly need some light on this subject... so here we go.

Toyota, as a company, builds cars in Japan and America. The ones built in Japan use one computer for the DBW throttle system, and the ones in America use another. The ones in Amerca are made by CTS. There have been several complaints made by Toyota owners that the gas pedal feels "STICKY", so Toyota started looking into it. From what Toyota can tell, it seems to be an issue on vehicles made in America, that are driven in hot and high humidity areas. (probably a major reason people who live in colder or dryer climates havent had an issue, a least yet). Now, there have been no accidents or deaths linked to this issue, just several complaints, and since there is no telling where the owners may live in the future, instead of just fixing the ones in certian areas, or the ones that have already had complaints, Toyota is being a bigger company and initiated a "Service Campaign" to replace these parts BEFORE someone has a serious accident, or worse, dies. Toyota was hoping to save face by fixing a problem before it became a problem. But since this will be the second time in just a few months that we are "fixing" an issue with the accelerator, the American companies are jumping all over it. If you ever have a question on which cars are affected, write down your vin, or simply grab your registration, and either call into or walk into a Toyota dealership, and they will be happy to check. It is mostly the vehicles made here in America, but Camry's and Tundra's seem to be the most affected. And what's worse, is that Pontiac VIbe IS a Toyota Matrix, and they have yet to say anything about recalling their vehicles. Toyota has led the industry for awhile on certian things, the electrical throttle systems are one of them. Makes you wonder how many companies bought our throttle systems and aren't going to ever mention a thing, doesn't it? I suggest EVERYONE check their throttle systems and make sure that it isn't made by CTS, no matter what make or model they drive of ANY brand, and see if it is one that was made by CTS.

[Yaris Hilton]

The recall has been expanded to include models sold in China and Europe that may not have been built with CTS throttle switches. We'll just have to see how it develops.

I saw a report that Congress is going to make a spectacle of Toyota, calling executives to testify about when and how they learned of the problems and when they decided to issue a recall. Makes political hay for them, and sets up their trial lawyer buddies to snag profitable judgments and settlements.

[b_hickman11]

Honda has a recall now so maybe this will take some of the negative attention off of Toyota.

[Hershey]

just might work .

[slothman86]

Reports are one thing, investigations are another

[MadMax]

Yeah, I don't know what happened to the post about the Yaris owner who took his 09 to a Honda dealer only to be told that the trade-in value for all Toyota's dropped because of the recall (which is pure BS), but I wanted the poster to take this report about the Honda recall of 646,000 cars and ask him how much his Honda Fits are worth now!

Toyota's voluntary recall is a precautionary measure, cars are not crashing all over the place because of it. As a matter of fact, Toyota provides insight into the indicators that should alert the driver of a possible problem:

Is my car safe to drive until a fix is issued?

The condition is rare and generally does not occur suddenly. It seems to occur when the pedal mechanism becomes worn and, in certain conditions, the accelerator pedal may become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.

Also note that the floor mat problem is a different issue...

Sticking Pedal Accelerator Recall: The condition can occur in rare instances, over time, under certain environmental conditions - there is a possibility that certain accelerator pedal mechanisms may, mechanically stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to idle position.

Potential Floor Mat Interference with Accelerator Pedal Recall: This condition is the potential for an unsecured or incompatible driver’s floor mat to interfere with or entrap the accelerator pedal and cause it to get stuck in the wide open position. Toyota has determined that this condition can occur in vehicles in which the driver’s side floor mat is not compatible with the vehicle and/or is not properly secured.

For more real information, see Toyota's Consumer Safety Advisory web site, specifically the Toyota Answers Questions About the Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and the FAQs for Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and Suspension of Sales sections.

Cheers! M2

[eric81]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Yeah, I don't know what happened to the post about the Yaris owner who took his 09 to a Honda dealer only to be told that the trade-in value for all Toyota's dropped because of the recall (which is pure BS), but I wanted the poster to take this report about the Honda recall of 646,000 cars and ask him how much his Honda Fits are worth now!

Toyota's voluntary recall is a precautionary measure, cars are not crashing all over the place because of it. As a matter of fact, Toyota provides insight into the indicators that should alert the driver of a possible problem:



Also note that the floor mat problem is a different issue...



For more real information, see Toyota's Consumer Safety Advisory web site, specifically the Toyota Answers Questions About the Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and the FAQs for Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and Suspension of Sales sections.

Cheers! M2

Amen brother. All said right there, clear as day, and no BS about it. Though, I would like to add again, that Toyota cars are not the only company CTS has made these axact parts for. The Pontiac Vibe is the perfect example, because it is the same car, part for part, as the Matrix, and has the same thropttle control unit in it. We pulled them off the lot as well because we KNOW they need to be replaced, even if Pontiac is ok with waiting for people to get into accidents and possibly kill people before they spend a single penny fixing a potential problem. Screw the American companies! Ford had bad tires that killed people, fuel pumps that started on fire, and several US companies had airbags that would not deploy. Not to mention how many American companies have brake and transmission problems. Toyota has a faulty part. No question about it. But no one has been seriously hurt, or killed, and they are recalling ALL vehicles that have that part, BEFORE something serious happens.

Which parent is better, the one who puts the outlet covers on the outlets before the kids hurt themselves, or after? Make your own choice... and keep on searching for the WHOLE story.

[127.0.0.1]

none of this bothers me. If I had the loot, I'd go and buy 10 more toyotas right now no hesitation.

[BuildCode]

If people knew how to use their brake pedal, neutral, or even that key thing that turns the engine off, neither of these issues would matter that much.

[chew246214]

OK I will say this again.... All manufacturers have recalls!!!!!!!!!! It's the nature of the game. Toyota's are so big because they sell more cars thats the fact. Lets go back a few years... toyota again frame rotting on tacomas... most all bought back from 1995-2000 and starting another round on the 2000-2004 soon. toyota definatly took care of their customers in that one... about the same time.... Jeep grand cherokee's heater seat elements were catching on fire... chrysler replaced them, also ball joints on durangos/dakotas... replaced them also... ford/firestone.. we all remember the problem there... two fold... tire defects in one plant, and ford putting the wrong reccomendations on the door stickers for inflation and load rating.... ok.... Honda... complete dashboards on their minivans due to fire risk, GM can't think off hand but I'm sure there are good ones out there.... Everybody has recalls, these were just examlpes off the top of my head. and once the public has gotten over it life will be normal again and toyota will have a proper fix and be selling cars again.... lets be honost it is good to know if your car is recalled, but there tends to be a mob effect and everybody thinks there is a bigger problem then there is.... Don't get me wrong.... My yaris is sitting at the dealer as we speak, it does have a surging issue at around 20 mph and gets stuck at wide open throttle six times already.. not part of the recall I know about and they can't find out whats wrong but atleast the service manager knows there is a problem (we went for a long test ride and the throttle stuck) with under 2300 miles on the car. Am I mad? no.... I am confident that it will eventually be fixed... Like I said in the begining it is the nature of the business. You can't find every glitch and with hundreds of thousands of cars/trucks on the road more problems are bound to arise. As a precaution toyota is pulling all the cars which I think is safer then some other manufacturers that wouldn't think about doing this... just my 2 cents.......

[Altitude]

I've had throttle cables break before...

[Yaris Hilton]

...and jam.

[slothman86]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

...and jam.

Good point!

[Yaris Hilton]

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...073,full.story

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...073,full.story

I'm buying stock in pitchforks and torches.

[chew246214]

old cars throttles stuck all the time, the fix was if you were driving put it to the floor a few times to unstick it..... when you got home lube it up... that was it...... Nothing to lube on newer ones.... if the cable breaks usually it will go back to the fully closed neutral position and no extra throttle would be given....Oh I also forgot 2004-2005 durango's had a recall on sticking trottes a few people drove through walls and such.. people didn't bug out about that one.....