Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 49 - Toyota Yaris Forums

sqcomp · 01-21-2011, 08:01 PM

CA-There used to be a DIY for the headliner...I took my DIY off the site. I'm not sure if Derick has taken his down.

The purpose of the matting is to reducs vibrations and absorb sound.

sqcomp · 01-21-2011, 10:23 PM

D,

You know you can holler at the boys at the shop if you want some insight for a box. I know we just made a vented box for two of the DD 1508's that will make your ears bleed with 1200 Watts (okay, maybe not bleed). The sealed applications are much easier though...AND they already have a Yaris sedan to model a box on! Also on the kicks, if you're using the same general space as I am, look at the sub frame holes by the front wheel wells.

Oh, a tease for you, I'm laying down a frame, fleece, and glass for my new sub enclosure. I'm flipping the sub to have the magnet out in the center of the trunk. That Mille's magnet is SECKS! We're also putting a whammy 60 Ampere power supply in the Yaris for shows.

derickveliz2 · 01-21-2011, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

You know you can holler at the boys at the shop if you want some insight for a box. I know we just made a vented box for two of the DD 1508's that will make your ears bleed with 1200 Watts (okay, maybe not bleed). The sealed applications are much easier though...AND they already have a Yaris sedan to model a box on! Also on the kicks, if you're using the same general space as I am, look at the sub frame holes by the front wheel wells.

Thanks I know, what I'm looking now is for a set of rings for the L6s so I can install them flush!

For the kicks, the sub-frame down the floor, right?

D.

packetrace · 01-21-2011, 10:51 PM

Derick!

How much you paid for your HL-70 ? and your tweeter ?

derickveliz2 · 01-21-2011, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packetrace

Derick!

How much you paid for your HL-70 ? and your tweeter ?

Hertz HL-70 are around $180

Legatia L1v2 sell for around $220, I got them at DIYMA in the Classified section for a lot less than that. (o:

D.

sickpuppy1 · 01-21-2011, 11:54 PM

Quick, vague question. Just an opinion. going between a kenwood 2 channel amp or Pioneer both 60 watt . Think a pioneer would work better with the Pioneer HU I just bought or would it make any difference...I'm thinking sound quality wise is all.

derickveliz2 · 01-22-2011, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

Quick, vague question. Just an opinion. going between a kenwood 2 channel amp or Pioneer both 60 watt . Think a pioneer would work better with the Pioneer HU I just bought or would it make any difference...I'm thinking sound quality wise is all.

Like SQcomp mentions above, no difference.

In that case I think the good sound will come from a proper installation, more than what amp to use.

D.

sqcomp · 01-22-2011, 01:40 AM

^ Not at all between those brands.

D,

Here's what the passenger's kick looks like under the stock panel:

Here's the same area with the wiring bundle relocated:

Whoa! Tons of room for a speaker!

derickveliz2 · 01-22-2011, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

^ Not at all between those brands.

D,

Here's what the passenger's kick looks like under the stock panel:

Here's the same area with the wiring bundle relocated:

Whoa! Tons of room for a speaker!

So you think its better to vent on the vertical panel than going down the floor...?

D.

sickpuppy1 · 01-22-2011, 08:17 AM

LOL, thanks guys. And very diplomatic too! Its gonna be a budget system for sure. Just trying to maximize what I can with what money I have to spend on stuff. I was thinking of more the "sonic signature" some brand seem to display, clearity and such. But seriously, do you hear a big difference going to a higher end amp, I mean, that may be a loaded question, cause I know there is a big difference between, lets say my Denon receiver and a radio shack receiver, so ok I see that, but then there are alot of other components beside the amp section in a receiver that "color" the sound. And I also dont want to open up a can of worms for some of the folks who gave you shit in the past. So if youve used stuff in the bracket I'm talking about and when you moved up, what differences did you hear? I know going from one brand to another some times one seems brighter , one clearer, one more bass etc. Things I have often attributed to the preamp section quality and settings ,more than the amp itself. If its more comfortable, do it in a PM rather than here. I know both of you've been ambushed before,lol
By the way, where did you move that wiring bundle to? Is it tucked in behind the panel to the right or up above so it doesnt hang down? LOL, WTF did it go!

derickveliz2 · 01-23-2011, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

But seriously, do you hear a big difference going to a higher end amp,

In my case, I went from an old Class D Premier (Pioneer) amp to a new Class A/B Power Bass amp. Yes there is a difference. And I like it.

D.

sqcomp · 01-22-2011, 02:05 PM

The individual amplifiers differences in sound are a result of several conditions. The most important thing to consider is that a Watt is a Watt. You'll ask, well why does one amplifier sound different than another? I submit that it is a difference in the crossover section, power supply, output device construction, gain settings (including real headroom), and other various little components like op-amps that all add up to a difference in sound.

Oh and if someone does want to give me a hard time, I'll just move on and not really respond. Everyone knows where to get a hold of me anyway...PM.

The wire bundle? Note, there's one on the driver's side as well. It's relocated up into the dash area. Also note, when and if you decide to take off your passenger's side A-pillar, there's a molex there as well. I killed that one off all together. I was more than an un-needed piece of plastic. The whole connector only help one wire as I remember and it was to the antenna (I don't listen to the radio anyway). All I did was to remove the two ends from the connector and solder them together. Whoa! What an idea! :) It saved me a 1/2" of room so I could put my L4 mids in the A-pillar on that side.

sickpuppy1 · 01-23-2011, 01:50 AM

SQ, I was afraid we'd get some of the non constructive smart ass remarks like awhile ago and poof there goes a great source of learning for all of us. I hate it when it when you go poof! I'll keep and eye out for the wiring to when I start to put in some deadening. Source of rattles too. I'm not gonna go the super cheap route on deadening. I've read enough to know I'll end up with raamat, or some of the goodies from SDS (Dan). Interesting stuff over at second skin too. I'm intrigued by the Spectrum...any opinions on that? Havent talked with anyone who's used it yet.
Oh and Derick, I made sure the amp I'm getting is A/B also. Even at my price bracket I knew I wanted to go that route. Not that there arent good sounding class D amps, I know there are, just seems like they are mostly in high watt sub area's

derickveliz2 · 01-23-2011, 02:16 AM

To me there are 2 ways of deadening a car, one is oriented to improve the sound like in a sound studio (less rattles, absorbing materials) in other words... acoustically better.

The second one is to reduce out side noise (road noise, engine noise, tire noise, passing vehicles and trucks) most of it is when your car is in motion!

A good balance makes your sound system and your ride a much pleasant experience!

Go for it!

D.

sqcomp · 01-23-2011, 02:26 AM

Don't worry about me. I know that most don't mean to mess with me more than just ribbing. Sometimes I get a little short as of late. It's an "artifact" of me coming back from Iraq.

Deadening...

There's a wide range of choices. I've used several different mats and foams in my experience. I'm satisfied with what I run now. Stinger Roadkill Expert and the Stinger Overkill...that overkill is AWESOME stuff! You should take a look at it personally. Notice I didn't say buy it! Any advice I might give would be my opinion. It's not scripture.

I'm using a version of the spectrum sludge in my kicks right now (Lizard Skin). That will change with the change in speakers for said kicks as well. I'll either be purchasing a pair of L6 SE's or L8 SE's soon. I'm going to be using a "special" coating for the kicks and the sub-woofer enclosure. ...If you guys could see me smiling right now...

What is your price bracket for the amps you're using?

sickpuppy1 · 01-23-2011, 09:52 AM

I ordered a little Pioneer gm3400t Saturday on line. Shortly after that I read your comment on possibly being able to get some brands at a really good price. Its the only amp I've ordered so far, but all I'm powering is a set of component speakers for the front end. They are rated at 50 watts per channel and I'll be getting 60, so I have a little head room. I will be getting a sub too, but in a little while....something in the 8-10 range probably as I want it to "fill in" the bottom and not thump my whole car. Plus I will travel with this car and want to save on trunk room

_S7V7N_ · 01-23-2011, 04:04 PM

Check out the digital design 8's.

sickpuppy1 · 01-23-2011, 04:26 PM

Couldnt find pricing on them anywhere, but when to the website. Look very nice. I'll bet their out of my price range,lol. I definitely have champagne taste and a beer budget,lol

01-21-2011, 08:01 PM	#1
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	CA-There used to be a DIY for the headliner...I took my DIY off the site. I'm not sure if Derick has taken his down. The purpose of the matting is to reducs vibrations and absorb sound. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

01-21-2011, 10:23 PM	#2
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	D, You know you can holler at the boys at the shop if you want some insight for a box. I know we just made a vented box for two of the DD 1508's that will make your ears bleed with 1200 Watts (okay, maybe not bleed). The sealed applications are much easier though...AND they already have a Yaris sedan to model a box on! Also on the kicks, if you're using the same general space as I am, look at the sub frame holes by the front wheel wells. Oh, a tease for you, I'm laying down a frame, fleece, and glass for my new sub enclosure. I'm flipping the sub to have the magnet out in the center of the trunk. That Mille's magnet is SECKS! We're also putting a whammy 60 Ampere power supply in the Yaris for shows. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

01-21-2011, 10:51 PM	#4
packetrace Drives: Yaris Sedan 2009 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 566	Derick! How much you paid for your HL-70 ? and your tweeter ? __________________ Interior:ALL red, black roof Exterior:RTX scorpion painted GOLD, side and rear visor, oem spoiler, MI mesh grill, Hella supertone horn, RS badge, Vios badge, CF pillar, Led mirror cover, fog light HID 3000k, Projector retrofit HID 8000K Performance :MI CrankPulley, Tein springs, UR and TRD bar, TURBO IN PROGRESS Audio : Pionner DEH-80PRS, HAT L1V2, PowerBass 1100.5X 5 channel amp

01-21-2011, 11:54 PM	#6
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Quick, vague question. Just an opinion. going between a kenwood 2 channel amp or Pioneer both 60 watt . Think a pioneer would work better with the Pioneer HU I just bought or would it make any difference...I'm thinking sound quality wise is all. __________________

01-22-2011, 01:40 AM	#8
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	^ Not at all between those brands. D, Here's what the passenger's kick looks like under the stock panel: Here's the same area with the wiring bundle relocated: Whoa! Tons of room for a speaker! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

01-22-2011, 08:17 AM	#10
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	LOL, thanks guys. And very diplomatic too! Its gonna be a budget system for sure. Just trying to maximize what I can with what money I have to spend on stuff. I was thinking of more the "sonic signature" some brand seem to display, clearity and such. But seriously, do you hear a big difference going to a higher end amp, I mean, that may be a loaded question, cause I know there is a big difference between, lets say my Denon receiver and a radio shack receiver, so ok I see that, but then there are alot of other components beside the amp section in a receiver that "color" the sound. And I also dont want to open up a can of worms for some of the folks who gave you shit in the past. So if youve used stuff in the bracket I'm talking about and when you moved up, what differences did you hear? I know going from one brand to another some times one seems brighter , one clearer, one more bass etc. Things I have often attributed to the preamp section quality and settings ,more than the amp itself. If its more comfortable, do it in a PM rather than here. I know both of you've been ambushed before,lol By the way, where did you move that wiring bundle to? Is it tucked in behind the panel to the right or up above so it doesnt hang down? LOL, WTF did it go! __________________ Last edited by sickpuppy1; 01-22-2011 at 08:28 AM.

01-22-2011, 02:05 PM	#12
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The individual amplifiers differences in sound are a result of several conditions. The most important thing to consider is that a Watt is a Watt. You'll ask, well why does one amplifier sound different than another? I submit that it is a difference in the crossover section, power supply, output device construction, gain settings (including real headroom), and other various little components like op-amps that all add up to a difference in sound. Oh and if someone does want to give me a hard time, I'll just move on and not really respond. Everyone knows where to get a hold of me anyway...PM. The wire bundle? Note, there's one on the driver's side as well. It's relocated up into the dash area. Also note, when and if you decide to take off your passenger's side A-pillar, there's a molex there as well. I killed that one off all together. I was more than an un-needed piece of plastic. The whole connector only help one wire as I remember and it was to the antenna (I don't listen to the radio anyway). All I did was to remove the two ends from the connector and solder them together. Whoa! What an idea! :) It saved me a 1/2" of room so I could put my L4 mids in the A-pillar on that side. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

01-23-2011, 01:50 AM	#13
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	SQ, I was afraid we'd get some of the non constructive smart ass remarks like awhile ago and poof there goes a great source of learning for all of us. I hate it when it when you go poof! I'll keep and eye out for the wiring to when I start to put in some deadening. Source of rattles too. I'm not gonna go the super cheap route on deadening. I've read enough to know I'll end up with raamat, or some of the goodies from SDS (Dan). Interesting stuff over at second skin too. I'm intrigued by the Spectrum...any opinions on that? Havent talked with anyone who's used it yet. Oh and Derick, I made sure the amp I'm getting is A/B also. Even at my price bracket I knew I wanted to go that route. Not that there arent good sounding class D amps, I know there are, just seems like they are mostly in high watt sub area's __________________ Last edited by sickpuppy1; 01-23-2011 at 02:16 AM.

01-23-2011, 02:16 AM	#14
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	To me there are 2 ways of deadening a car, one is oriented to improve the sound like in a sound studio (less rattles, absorbing materials) in other words... acoustically better. The second one is to reduce out side noise (road noise, engine noise, tire noise, passing vehicles and trucks) most of it is when your car is in motion! A good balance makes your sound system and your ride a much pleasant experience! Go for it! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

01-23-2011, 02:26 AM	#15
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Don't worry about me. I know that most don't mean to mess with me more than just ribbing. Sometimes I get a little short as of late. It's an "artifact" of me coming back from Iraq. Deadening... There's a wide range of choices. I've used several different mats and foams in my experience. I'm satisfied with what I run now. Stinger Roadkill Expert and the Stinger Overkill...that overkill is AWESOME stuff! You should take a look at it personally. Notice I didn't say buy it! Any advice I might give would be my opinion. It's not scripture. I'm using a version of the spectrum sludge in my kicks right now (Lizard Skin). That will change with the change in speakers for said kicks as well. I'll either be purchasing a pair of L6 SE's or L8 SE's soon. I'm going to be using a "special" coating for the kicks and the sub-woofer enclosure. ...If you guys could see me smiling right now... What is your price bracket for the amps you're using? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

01-23-2011, 09:52 AM	#16
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	I ordered a little Pioneer gm3400t Saturday on line. Shortly after that I read your comment on possibly being able to get some brands at a really good price. Its the only amp I've ordered so far, but all I'm powering is a set of component speakers for the front end. They are rated at 50 watts per channel and I'll be getting 60, so I have a little head room. I will be getting a sub too, but in a little while....something in the 8-10 range probably as I want it to "fill in" the bottom and not thump my whole car. Plus I will travel with this car and want to save on trunk room __________________

01-23-2011, 04:04 PM	#17
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Check out the digital design 8's. __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

01-23-2011, 04:26 PM	#18
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Couldnt find pricing on them anywhere, but when to the website. Look very nice. I'll bet their out of my price range,lol. I definitely have champagne taste and a beer budget,lol __________________

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
sound deadening: sq footage amount for 3dr	goku87	In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm)	29	11-14-2013 01:37 PM
2007 Yaris S Sound Deadening	sqcomp	In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm)	70	12-13-2010 08:40 PM
Sound deadening	06vitzRS	General Yaris / Vitz Discussion	10	05-05-2010 02:51 PM
Sedan Door Panel Deadening	sqcomp	In Car Entertainment + Electronics (audio / video / alarm)	42	06-01-2009 03:47 PM