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sqcomp · 02-08-2011, 08:20 PM

If I was going to do a wood enclosure, I'd make mine out of marine grade Baltic birch plywood.

Sick...do you have measurements for a vented enclosure on that 8"? I'm thinking a larger vented enclosure for the 8" so it will be tuned lower. The .3 idea is cool sealed but the output is going to be mediocre with the power given. The sound will b good however. I'd do something like that hidden up in the dash somewhere.

sickpuppy1 · 02-08-2011, 08:26 PM

I was thinking a a sealed enclosure for sound quality, but would a vented be OK for me? I know its aweful small. I can get the mesaurements from JBL in a few...at least what they recommend for that sub. BRB

sickpuppy1 · 02-08-2011, 08:28 PM

I guess a .6 is what they say...
http://www.jbl.com/resources/Brands/...GTO%20804D.pdf

As you can see, the sealed gives a much flatter curved, but noticeably lower SPL, which is to be expected of course, for a given watt.

Quite honestly, I dont think i have the skills to do an in dash install, as cramped as it is in that dash.

sqcomp · 02-08-2011, 10:32 PM

I'm thinking that the output may not be what you want out of a sealed enclosure with 225 Watts. That plan vented at .6 of a cube with a port isn't offensive at all. What do they have it tuned at? 40 Hz?

sickpuppy1 · 02-08-2011, 10:59 PM

It looks like thats peak output,huh. I may just go that route.Its rated at max 200rms. How far beyond can you push it though? Stone cold newbie in the sub market here,lol

sqcomp · 02-10-2011, 12:02 AM

D,

If you're hearing distortion, you've either gone WAAAAY into clipping or you've got some nasty issues coming from the source.

derickveliz2 · 02-10-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

If you're hearing distortion, you've either gone WAAAAY into clipping or you've got some nasty issues coming from the source.

No, I don't hear any distortion, what I mean is that I would never do that to a brand new speaker.

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-11-2011, 12:27 PM

I got the rings for the L6s... time to start building kick panels.

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-11-2011, 12:57 PM

Is it normal that when I crank up the volume the IDQ12 makes my hair tickles?

Yeah! I like that. The very interesting is that the car is not really shaking, I feel the bass in my body and at high volume in my hair too. Feels good!

Now it's very noticeable the lack of performance of the Lows (mid-bass Hifonics Zeus 6.5" drivers in the doors) at low levels they are OK, but I had to x-over them at 120Khz HPF other wise they just don't sound right.

For a few seconds I MUTE the Lows and is very interesting it just sounds beautiful. There is so much to learn about music, there are some music that the Sub it's just not playing and the Lows (mid-bass) are doing all the work.

Sqcomp, now it makes a lot of sense to put a couple of 6.5 woofers under the dash, maybe under the glove compartment? how is your project going?

D.

sqcomp · 02-11-2011, 08:28 PM

That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound.

D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready.

There are some 6" woofers I have available. I'm not going to mess with them until 2012 though. I'll run this system for my first season in IASCA and then change it up almost completely. I'm already in the planning stages for an amp rack change and a woofer change. I'll probably run four 6" woofers in the dash using the same Audison 2.9 I'm pushing the 15" with. It's going to take a LOT of fiberglass ingenuity...

My project is at the point where I lay down the false floor. I've got approximately 5 layers of 1 1/2 oz mat down in the spare tire well. I've got it framed off. Now I place the floor, make the new trim ring, cut the floor, place the ring, fleece it off like I did with the mid bass enclosures...

There's more little tricks coming...to include concrete and copper BB's...

I've got to get this done by May.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound.

I agree 100%

D.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready.

Ok, so here is where we start with the L6s and Kick panels...

I got the rings now and I'm ready to figure out what's the best way to build the enclosure (kick panels)...

Check out the rings! the L6s fit perfectly:

And here is where one of them will go!

D.

sqcomp · 02-14-2011, 05:32 PM

Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases.

I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did.

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases.

I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did.

I did relocate the wiring bundle on both sides!

D.

sqcomp · 02-14-2011, 09:06 PM

It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks...

derickveliz2 · 02-14-2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks...

Any suggestions for aiming the L6s?

D.

CAyaris · 02-15-2011, 01:58 AM

Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan

derickveliz2 · 02-15-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CAyaris

Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan

I stuck 1/4" CCFoam between the deck and the board trim. Once in a while I get a little rattle, to fix it I move the CCFoam around, and some times I put more. The foam gets smashed a little bit, letting the deck to vibrate.

What process did you use for deadening? did you apply Mat to the rear deck? CCFoam?

D.

02-08-2011, 08:20 PM	#1
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	If I was going to do a wood enclosure, I'd make mine out of marine grade Baltic birch plywood. Sick...do you have measurements for a vented enclosure on that 8"? I'm thinking a larger vented enclosure for the 8" so it will be tuned lower. The .3 idea is cool sealed but the output is going to be mediocre with the power given. The sound will b good however. I'd do something like that hidden up in the dash somewhere. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-08-2011, 08:26 PM	#2
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	I was thinking a a sealed enclosure for sound quality, but would a vented be OK for me? I know its aweful small. I can get the mesaurements from JBL in a few...at least what they recommend for that sub. BRB __________________

02-08-2011, 08:28 PM	#3
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	I guess a .6 is what they say... http://www.jbl.com/resources/Brands/...GTO%20804D.pdf As you can see, the sealed gives a much flatter curved, but noticeably lower SPL, which is to be expected of course, for a given watt. Quite honestly, I dont think i have the skills to do an in dash install, as cramped as it is in that dash. __________________ Last edited by sickpuppy1; 02-08-2011 at 08:46 PM.

02-08-2011, 10:32 PM	#4
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I'm thinking that the output may not be what you want out of a sealed enclosure with 225 Watts. That plan vented at .6 of a cube with a port isn't offensive at all. What do they have it tuned at? 40 Hz? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-08-2011, 10:59 PM	#5
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	It looks like thats peak output,huh. I may just go that route.Its rated at max 200rms. How far beyond can you push it though? Stone cold newbie in the sub market here,lol __________________

02-10-2011, 12:02 AM	#6
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	D, If you're hearing distortion, you've either gone WAAAAY into clipping or you've got some nasty issues coming from the source. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-11-2011, 12:27 PM	#8
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I got the rings for the L6s... time to start building kick panels. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-11-2011, 12:57 PM	#9
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Is it normal that when I crank up the volume the IDQ12 makes my hair tickles? Yeah! I like that. The very interesting is that the car is not really shaking, I feel the bass in my body and at high volume in my hair too. Feels good! Now it's very noticeable the lack of performance of the Lows (mid-bass Hifonics Zeus 6.5" drivers in the doors) at low levels they are OK, but I had to x-over them at 120Khz HPF other wise they just don't sound right. For a few seconds I MUTE the Lows and is very interesting it just sounds beautiful. There is so much to learn about music, there are some music that the Sub it's just not playing and the Lows (mid-bass) are doing all the work. Sqcomp, now it makes a lot of sense to put a couple of 6.5 woofers under the dash, maybe under the glove compartment? how is your project going? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

02-11-2011, 08:28 PM	#10
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	That mid bass performance is one of the reasons I like three ways over two way sets. I completely agree that two way sets are easier to set up that three ways. The issue for me is that I like to spread the power over more speakers to have the ability to tune more easily...to have more flexibility in shaping my sound. D, I have a sneaking suspicion that you'll be able to cross your L6's around 40 Hz at a 24 dB slope. Your enclosure will dictate the sound. We need to work together on that when you're ready. There are some 6" woofers I have available. I'm not going to mess with them until 2012 though. I'll run this system for my first season in IASCA and then change it up almost completely. I'm already in the planning stages for an amp rack change and a woofer change. I'll probably run four 6" woofers in the dash using the same Audison 2.9 I'm pushing the 15" with. It's going to take a LOT of fiberglass ingenuity... My project is at the point where I lay down the false floor. I've got approximately 5 layers of 1 1/2 oz mat down in the spare tire well. I've got it framed off. Now I place the floor, make the new trim ring, cut the floor, place the ring, fleece it off like I did with the mid bass enclosures... There's more little tricks coming...to include concrete and copper BB's... I've got to get this done by May. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-14-2011, 05:32 PM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Let me get some time today to get onto photobucket. That wiring bundle you have there on the left? In my case I relocated that (on both sides). That will open up the holes that will give the L6's proper "breathing" room to work down to 40hz and even lower in some cases. I'll post a pic or two up to show you what I did. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-14-2011, 09:06 PM	#15
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	It's in that cavity now that you should route the airflow from the back of kicks... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

02-15-2011, 01:58 AM	#17
CAyaris Drives: 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Goodyear Posts: 209	Hey i sound deadened my whole trunk a while back and am now noticing a rattle and it seems to be coming from the back deck where the rear speakers are, any ideas im in a 08 sedan __________________ 108hp and still rolling

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