Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

We need to keep the substrate flat to get the closest fit to the panel. If the base isn't flat it is VERY difficult to get a build up with all those waves that we see. Also, it's probably better to use chop mat versus glass weave in that area. Chop mat is great for build up, which is what you're trying to do.

It wasn't easy to pull that thing out!

The waves kind of filled in and made a flat surface in the back, the second layer filled in the uneven areas on top, I just added another layer, it's very heavy and solid, I'm going to add another layer or 2 then trim out and glue in the ring for the speaker, any suggestion for aiming the L6s? my feeling is 30-45 degrees at the stick???

This is not easy, I guess after doing it half a dozen times, it gets better!



D.

[derickveliz2]

I did a second layer, now I'm going to try to pull it out, trim and reinforce it.

D.

[sqcomp]

It does get better.

Suggestions? Yes, aim the mids to the stick and up about a foot.

Oh, Jim got your e-mail about the rings. Nice pic you used! :) I'd actually suggest using a 1/4" flush instead of a 3/4" flush ring. It'll make it blend better.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It does get better.

Suggestions? Yes, aim the mids to the stick and up about a foot.

Oh, Jim got your e-mail about the rings. Nice pic you used! :) I'd actually suggest using a 1/4" flush instead of a 3/4" flush ring. It'll make it blend better.

A foot above the floor or the stick? I guess the floor.

about the picture (I stole one of your pictures, just in case the name of the files is "Ring Sqcomp" jeje)... I have to make sure I get what I'm looking for. And yes 1/4" would be good.

Thanks


D.

[sqcomp]

You're going to aim the mid bass a foot above the stick shift. You can also aim them into the center of the dash (or anywhere in between) aimed up to that level a foot above the stick shift. Simply due to the size of the driver, I'm thinking that the magnet would be better nestled into the corner aiming to the stick shift.

You have to remember that bass frequencies are less directional than the mid range and the tweeter.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

You're going to aim the mid bass a foot above the stick shift. You can also aim them into the center of the dash (or anywhere in between) aimed up to that level a foot above the stick shift. Simply due to the size of the driver, I'm thinking that the magnet would be better nestled into the corner aiming to the stick shift.

You have to remember that bass frequencies are less directional than the mid range and the tweeter.

Thanks,

So it's more of a convenience/ergonomics, in other words... for the Pilot's side to keep it away from the clutch!

I better aim the Pilot's side first and try to do it symmetrical.

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[derickveliz2]

Pictures after pulling the base out! + one more layer on the upper section.







After a couple more layer...




I feel a little bit more comfortable working with fiber glass and resin, That's why I started with the passenger's side first, with more space to play and screw it up, the pilot's side needs more attention to clear the clutch.


D.

[sqcomp]

Looks very familiar! The next step is technique with the mat and weave. After that The next step is cabosil for you...if you ever need it. There are SO many pics I have to show...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Looks very familiar! The next step is technique with the mat and weave. After that The next step is cabosil for you...if you ever need it. There are SO many pics I have to show...

In what language are you talking? LoL

Yes, I need pictures to learn how to do it please.


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[sqcomp]

google search for Cab o sil

[derickveliz2]

Sqcomp...

I can't stop thinking about the project using small subs in front,....

so today I put my IDQ12 on the floor in front of the passenger's seat! to see what does it feels...


I can't describe how nice it feels, so Natural and pure bass. This is where "S" meets "Q",
I can feel the bass in my body and not the seat, feels like a true "Front Stage"! every thing coming from the front speakers; this is not a BOOM BOOM! feeling, it's pure Sound Quality! low to moderate volume, still I can crank it up but that is not my goal.

Now I now why Top SQ cars have a sub in front, I can just keep my little 1 cubic feet box down there, but it would be nice to have a smaller 8" or 10" sub. I wonder if after installing the L6's filling that 40Hz-200Hz area, I could try some thing?, maybe on of my old 10" Solo-Barics or get some thing like a JBL GTO804 (8" woofer) in a small 0.3 cuft custom box under the glove compartment? I read the GTO804's are good SQ woofers in a small package.

any thoughts? suggestions? tell me about the new 6.5" woofers from HAT? any good?

D.

[sqcomp]

That Imagine 6 sub woofer would be good used up front. I remember Scott saying that a .3 enclosure would do fine.

The Imagine 6 sub was made to go head to head with the Ultra 6" sub and kill it hands down.

Check out the Ultra piece:

http://www.ultrasubs.com/proddetail.php?prod_uid=6

The Imagine sub walks all over this!

Stick two in the front a 2 Ohms. The price is even better than the ultra.

I'm looking at sticking four of them up front up in the dash.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That Imagine 6 sub woofer would be good used up front. I remember Scott saying that a .3 enclosure would do fine.

The Imagine 6 sub was made to go head to head with the Ultra 6" sub and kill it hands down.

It would be nice to know if I could get my hands on one Imagine 6 sub!

I would even consider one Ultra 6" if getting an Imagine 6 turns out to be impossible.

Do you think one wouldn't be enough? maybe 2! how do I stick 2 drivers at 2 Ohms? do I need another amp? can I use the one I'm using for my IDQ12?

D.

[sqcomp]

You're using that Pioneer amp on the sub aren't you?

I can get the Imagine 6 subs...easy. They're less expensive, more sensitive, and burlier than the Ultra.

Let me talk to Jim to get more info for you on pricing. It may be Monday before I get a good answer. I'm also talking to Scott directly.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

You're using that Pioneer amp on the sub aren't you? Let me talk to Jim to get more info for you on pricing. It may be Monday before I get a good answer. I'm also talking to Scott directly.

I'm using a Power Bass amp with 500 watts at 2 ohms for Subwoofer, The Pioneer is moving the Mid-bass with 100 watts that will power the L6's. (not shown in this picture)







This is what we are talking about right? "I6SW"



Thank you,

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[sqcomp]

I lied...I've got the answer for you now...

You've got a PM

[sqcomp]

That's the I6SW alright. Figure...I had my hands on the first one delivered before Scott even looked at them in Las Vegas. :)

Okay, 2 Ohms with 500 watts seems like enough for two of them. Told ya on the Imagine vs the Ultra. The imagine makes it look like a baby sub!

[derickveliz2]

I haven't had time this weekend to go over the kick panels and experiment a little bit more with the woofer up front, but looking forward for this project that seems to never end, the new I6SW look like good candidates, now lets go back to the drawing board and see how I could arrange a couple of these little monsters. I may have a new IDQ12 for sale soon!

D.