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sqcomp · 06-19-2011, 07:30 AM

I haven't actually had my hands on the amps yet. On Monday, I'll be up at the shop to continue work on the L6SE kicks...placing/aiming and glassing the baffles. Hopefully I can get them essentially finished. I have to lay down some more glass today and use some short strand on the inside just to build up the inside and even the surfaces out.

I've taken out the amp board that held the LRx's. I'm conceiving of several ways of placing the amplifiers. I REALLY want to keep the woofer inverted to show off the magnet. I'm considering running the amps in a north/south configuration...parallel with the front of the car...sort of angled as well as to be placed around the woofer, one on each side of it (the two big ones) and one in back of it closer to the seats by the Bit One.

Thinking, planning...

enough about me, what is going on with your mids? I noticed the picture on the last page with the wood baffle...what was that about?

derickveliz2 · 06-19-2011, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Thinking, planning...

enough about me, what is going on with your mids? I noticed the picture on the last page with the wood baffle...what was that about?

If you are talking about this picture is from another DIYMA member at the Massachusetts meet.

If you are talking about this picture, yes they are out of the spheres going off axis on the a-pillars

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-20-2011, 03:58 AM

I was just playing with glass on the Pilots a-pillar and new Mids baffle, this is my first a-pillar build so lets see how it goes! Oops no pictures I don't have my camera with me... I'll take some tomorrow.

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-21-2011, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I'll take some tomorrow.
D.

DD.

derickveliz2 · 06-21-2011, 12:27 PM

Thanks T.

1. I should have done some sanding you are 100% right on the dime, me bad been lazy or tired I forgot )o:
So far the a-pillars material is pure plastic, nothing like my corolla's a-pillar material, looks like nothing would stick to it, I agree with you.
We'll see how it goes.

2. I also agree with you to cover the entire a-pillar with fabric, now that I think about it, I can think of 2 things... One is I wanted it to keep it light,
the second one, my working table is way too small that I was afraid of doing the entire pillar, I may get screw up finishing but that's the process of learning right?

Wish me luck, and thanks keep them coming.

D.

_S7V7N_ · 06-21-2011, 03:55 PM

Okay imma be very blunt....WTF !!! @ SQ with the power plants....Dammit bro you could power your house from them things if the lights ever went out

sqcomp · 06-21-2011, 04:04 PM

There's a singular mode and direction of thought to my madness. My mode of thought is that I want the best sounding system in a yaris...period. Take a look at mark Eldridge and Scott buwalda's SQ rigs. None were starved for power and none used little amplifiers. With these amps and the power to back them up, there is no excuses on my part.

If I ever become non linear in my output, it won't be for lack of juice or ampilfer output, you can be guaranteed! I'll also be able to hit a 135 dB with NO issues. I might look at 140 with the setup actually.

sqcomp · 06-22-2011, 12:34 PM

The easy thing about it is, anything that is done can be put back to stock.

I've got spare panels and carpeting if I want to put it back to stock. Anything I've done can be brought back to stock within 24 hours.

It's that easy.

I will agree with you though. A lot of people expect more than realistically will happen from the car. I don't want to sell the car anyway. I love having the OMGawd reaction when people see what I'm doing with the system.

D - I just ordered a 320 Amp DC Power Alternator for the little Yaris. Each of the S2b's ask for a 200 Amp fuse. I won't be pulling that much however, playing everything at 4 Ohms. RAAWWRR!

https://www.dcpowerinc.com/fit/2007~...03-320-hp.html

derickveliz2 · 06-22-2011, 01:58 PM

Most of the time girls think a Yaris is "Cute" I think it's a great car to play with... I'm not referring on T's comment by the way.

Good fuel economy
Not very expensive
Ok, looks "cute" but I took care of that with accessories.
Easy to DIY everything from oil change to removing panels and seats. I do everything on my cars, no body touches them, from dealers, car audio shop, car wash, etc.
Really good platform for SQ (Sound Quality) system, center instrument cluster and geometry of dashboard ideal for "Front Stage" set up.

"but what if you want to sell the car?" Will I sell it? I don't think so. Maybe in 10 years from now LoL

SQ... that's an awesome 320 amp. AND yes I think in 24 hours and a couple of panels brings the inside to stock, now springs will need another day, jeje

FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo?

CUTE?............................................. .................................................. .........................NICE!!!

D.

fnkngrv · 06-23-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo?

It means Jade Dragon in Kanji.

Yes I am boosted.

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

It means Jade Dragon in Kanji.

Yes I am boosted.

Cool, this is one of my favorite airplanes, not a glider any how, it's like the best of the best a few years ago (Caleb F5B Multitask), reaching speeds of 150+ MPH and climb straight up at 90 degrees at 75 MPH...

on it' swing I was told had 3 symbols that sounded like my name in Chinese, the last one phonetically was RYU and I think it was "elegant" or some thing like that, just called my attention... and remind me my other hobby! LOL

Boosted... DOUBLE COOL!

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-22-2011, 03:10 PM

For our journal...I've been driving without a-pillars (MIDS & Tweets), so I plugged the tweeters and put them in the cup holders in an "off axis position"... so in a 2 way front stage:

Tweeters:
HP 4 kHz with 24 db slope. LP 20 kHz

Mid bass:
HP 63 Hz with 24 db slope. LP 4 kHz with 24 db slope

Subwoofer:
HP 20 Hz - LP 40 Hz (can't remember the slope).

Even like that sounds pretty dam good! the stage is right on the HU's screen not as high/forward compare to a 3 way front stage, but still pretty good. I do miss the MIDS and see the need. The width it's a little narrower, not as wide but I could live with it. (o:

D.

sqcomp · 06-22-2011, 04:33 PM

Yeah...that midrange seems to be anemic in a lot of the two way setups I've heard.

I have never been happy with the sound of the two way setups I've tried. I've always leaned towards three way setups simply for the control.

derickveliz2 · 06-23-2011, 01:07 AM

The way I see it is that the Tweeters take half of the vocals, and 6.5" speakers take the other half leaving a big gap in between, well sort of!

D.

sqcomp · 06-23-2011, 12:38 PM

Yes...exactly...there's a response gap. You can hear that when listening to a sound board in a shop running two way setups.

There's sacrifice when we split the vocal range at 2500 Hz (for example) between a mid woofer and a tweeter that doesn't do the entire mid range effectively.

For example, when you have a mid woofer that is reproducing a handful of sounds at different points of the frequency range...when you're at the top end trying to reproduce the vocals with a heavier mid bass beat? The mid range can become muddled and less accurate especially at higher linearity levels.

VERSUS

Using a dedicated mid range speaker, in the mid range frequency the we hear most accurately, is more desirable from the standpoint of sound reproduction accuracy. Work smarter, not harder.

_S7V7N_ · 06-23-2011, 08:06 PM

I'm running around with no Driver door panel till i get in my replacement 6.5's, (Hopefully they're the late Father's Day gift that the g/f says is in the mail )...My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by _S7V7N_

.My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll

I've been there before! LoL

D.

derickveliz2 · 06-24-2011, 02:31 AM

Sanding and more sanding!

what a life!
but happy!
BTW I think I'm going to need a new amp (2 channel) 150-300 watts, any suggestions?

D.

06-19-2011, 07:30 AM	#1
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I haven't actually had my hands on the amps yet. On Monday, I'll be up at the shop to continue work on the L6SE kicks...placing/aiming and glassing the baffles. Hopefully I can get them essentially finished. I have to lay down some more glass today and use some short strand on the inside just to build up the inside and even the surfaces out. I've taken out the amp board that held the LRx's. I'm conceiving of several ways of placing the amplifiers. I REALLY want to keep the woofer inverted to show off the magnet. I'm considering running the amps in a north/south configuration...parallel with the front of the car...sort of angled as well as to be placed around the woofer, one on each side of it (the two big ones) and one in back of it closer to the seats by the Bit One. Thinking, planning... enough about me, what is going on with your mids? I noticed the picture on the last page with the wood baffle...what was that about? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-20-2011, 03:58 AM	#3
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I was just playing with glass on the Pilots a-pillar and new Mids baffle, this is my first a-pillar build so lets see how it goes! Oops no pictures I don't have my camera with me... I'll take some tomorrow. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-21-2011, 12:27 PM	#5
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Thanks T. 1. I should have done some sanding you are 100% right on the dime, me bad been lazy or tired I forgot )o: So far the a-pillars material is pure plastic, nothing like my corolla's a-pillar material, looks like nothing would stick to it, I agree with you. We'll see how it goes. 2. I also agree with you to cover the entire a-pillar with fabric, now that I think about it, I can think of 2 things... One is I wanted it to keep it light, the second one, my working table is way too small that I was afraid of doing the entire pillar, I may get screw up finishing but that's the process of learning right? Wish me luck, and thanks keep them coming. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-21-2011, 03:55 PM	#6
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	Okay imma be very blunt....WTF !!! @ SQ with the power plants....Dammit bro you could power your house from them things if the lights ever went out __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

06-21-2011, 04:04 PM	#7
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	There's a singular mode and direction of thought to my madness. My mode of thought is that I want the best sounding system in a yaris...period. Take a look at mark Eldridge and Scott buwalda's SQ rigs. None were starved for power and none used little amplifiers. With these amps and the power to back them up, there is no excuses on my part. If I ever become non linear in my output, it won't be for lack of juice or ampilfer output, you can be guaranteed! I'll also be able to hit a 135 dB with NO issues. I might look at 140 with the setup actually. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-22-2011, 12:34 PM	#8
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The easy thing about it is, anything that is done can be put back to stock. I've got spare panels and carpeting if I want to put it back to stock. Anything I've done can be brought back to stock within 24 hours. It's that easy. I will agree with you though. A lot of people expect more than realistically will happen from the car. I don't want to sell the car anyway. I love having the OMGawd reaction when people see what I'm doing with the system. D - I just ordered a 320 Amp DC Power Alternator for the little Yaris. Each of the S2b's ask for a 200 Amp fuse. I won't be pulling that much however, playing everything at 4 Ohms. RAAWWRR! https://www.dcpowerinc.com/fit/2007~...03-320-hp.html __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-22-2011, 01:58 PM	#9
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Most of the time girls think a Yaris is "Cute" I think it's a great car to play with... I'm not referring on T's comment by the way. Good fuel economy Not very expensive Ok, looks "cute" but I took care of that with accessories. Easy to DIY everything from oil change to removing panels and seats. I do everything on my cars, no body touches them, from dealers, car audio shop, car wash, etc. Really good platform for SQ (Sound Quality) system, center instrument cluster and geometry of dashboard ideal for "Front Stage" set up. "but what if you want to sell the car?" Will I sell it? I don't think so. Maybe in 10 years from now LoL SQ... that's an awesome 320 amp. AND yes I think in 24 hours and a couple of panels brings the inside to stock, now springs will need another day, jeje FN... what does HISUI RYU means? is it some kind of Art? Do you have Turbo? CUTE?............................................. .................................................. .........................NICE!!! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-22-2011, 03:10 PM	#12
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	For our journal...I've been driving without a-pillars (MIDS & Tweets), so I plugged the tweeters and put them in the cup holders in an "off axis position"... so in a 2 way front stage: Tweeters: HP 4 kHz with 24 db slope. LP 20 kHz Mid bass: HP 63 Hz with 24 db slope. LP 4 kHz with 24 db slope Subwoofer: HP 20 Hz - LP 40 Hz (can't remember the slope). Even like that sounds pretty dam good! the stage is right on the HU's screen not as high/forward compare to a 3 way front stage, but still pretty good. I do miss the MIDS and see the need. The width it's a little narrower, not as wide but I could live with it. (o: D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-22-2011, 04:33 PM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yeah...that midrange seems to be anemic in a lot of the two way setups I've heard. I have never been happy with the sound of the two way setups I've tried. I've always leaned towards three way setups simply for the control. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-23-2011, 01:07 AM	#14
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	The way I see it is that the Tweeters take half of the vocals, and 6.5" speakers take the other half leaving a big gap in between, well sort of! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

06-23-2011, 12:38 PM	#15
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yes...exactly...there's a response gap. You can hear that when listening to a sound board in a shop running two way setups. There's sacrifice when we split the vocal range at 2500 Hz (for example) between a mid woofer and a tweeter that doesn't do the entire mid range effectively. For example, when you have a mid woofer that is reproducing a handful of sounds at different points of the frequency range...when you're at the top end trying to reproduce the vocals with a heavier mid bass beat? The mid range can become muddled and less accurate especially at higher linearity levels. VERSUS Using a dedicated mid range speaker, in the mid range frequency the we hear most accurately, is more desirable from the standpoint of sound reproduction accuracy. Work smarter, not harder. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

06-23-2011, 08:06 PM	#16
_S7V7N_ Drives: Yaris 4 Door Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Texas Posts: 805	I'm running around with no Driver door panel till i get in my replacement 6.5's, (Hopefully they're the late Father's Day gift that the g/f says is in the mail )...My g/f keeps lookin at my door panel sitting by the front door wondering when i'm gonna put it back in ..Loll __________________ Audio is under Construction Kenwood KDC-X794 Hifonics Zeus ZXI6.5C 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component Speaker System - AUTOTEK ATX65CX 6.5-Inch Hifonics BXi 1210D - Crunch PowerZone P1400.4 (2)12 inch Kicker CVR's - 0 gauge from battery to Distribution block - 4 Gauge Power/Grounds to amps - Duralast Yellow Top - Big 3

06-24-2011, 02:31 AM	#18
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Sanding and more sanding! what a life! but happy! BTW I think I'm going to need a new amp (2 channel) 150-300 watts, any suggestions? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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