Pedal just stuck!

[jambo101]

I wish they'd just go back to a simple throttle cable,costs them almost nothing and usually lasts the life of the car,, i wonder if after all the problems they are having they are giving it some thought.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by jambo101

I wish they'd just go back to a simple throttle cable,costs them almost nothing and usually lasts the life of the car,, i wonder if after all the problems they are having they are giving it some thought.

Only problem is that drive by wire increases fuel economy as it works with the ECU to operate the engine and transmission and fuel delivery most efficiently.

If Toyota were to stop using it, and others continued, competitors would handily surpass Toyota in FE. And that's one of Toyota's strengths and selling points.

[SailDesign]

Just out of curiosity, I checked ToF's posting history.
A full 50% of the posts he started contain the words "Issue" or "Problem". Not pointing fingers (much), just pointing out.....

[Kal-El]

Some people live life looking for problems in perfection.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Some people live life looking for problems in perfection.

[YAR1S]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/08/cal...ex.html?hpt=T2


Hope the Yaris is not next.

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by YAR1S

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/08/cal...ex.html?hpt=T2


Hope the Yaris is not next.

This guy doesn't strike me as credible.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Altitude

This guy doesn't strike me as credible.

One of the things that makes all these "incidents" totally unbelievable is the way the "victims" always claim that the brakes couldn't stop the car. 0-60 in the Prius is about 10 seconds. About a 0.27g acceleration. 60-0 braking distance is 128 ft, which works out to about 0.9g. The brakes can stop the car well over 3 times faster than the engine can accelerate it. And *that* is limited by the tires' traction, and not the ability of the brakes to stop the wheels. That capacity is *far* greater.

THERE IS NO FREAKING WAY IN HELL that even the most frail grandmother would be unable to stop the car using the brakes, even with the engine at full throttle. Which tells me that these people are either doing what most investigations reveal, which is stomping the wrong pedal... or in the case of this guy, lying through their teeth.

Car & Driver has done actual testing. The result? Under no conditions were they not able to easily stop any of the cars they tested. In fact, the Toyota Camry, with its throttle wide open, had a *shorter* stopping distance than the Ford Taurus' *regular* stopping distance. (A nice demonstration of yet another way in which the the Ford Taurus, and the American competition in general, sucks.)

http://tinyurl.com/yckntxs

Keep all this in mind as you evaluate future TV reports. Quite frankly, this whole situation is really starting to stink. And goes to show that world is full of people who are stupid, liars, or both.

-Steve Bergman

[bitz767]

Originally Posted by YAR1S

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/08/cal...ex.html?hpt=T2


Hope the Yaris is not next.

this guy seems to be lying to me, look at his eyes moving back and forth. He didnt think to stand on the breaks in the first place or turn it off? What did he do then? And i think if you pulled the pedal it would move not be stuck to the floor, but idk. sounds like a sham

[Kioshi]

in the article...it says he turned off the ignition and the car came to a halt...why didn't he do that before calling the cops and whatnot....

Personally i blame the Prius driver...i bet he was going 80 mph passing up the other car...as i see everyday a Prius driver does so on the highway..

People are just stupid nowadays...that's all there is to it...

[ezhacker1]

not trying to add oxygen to an ember to potentially be a flare up of problems.

But on the trip to MI's open house, i would sometimes coast in nuetral (clutch in) and i would see that at 70+ mph, even with clutch in the rpms would stay at whatever the rpms wouldl be at that speed for as long as the clutch was pressed so i would not have to rev match to put it back into gear. Either the car knows to keep rpms up so there wouldnt be a violent jerk if someone were to clutch/shift back in or somethings up.

On that same trip, going up a mountain (GrapeVine) i felt the car lost power, i would punch it (pedal all the way down) and in a 3rd gear i believe but still went up that mountain slow. I fell behind the caravan so much that the leader (advocate) called me up to see where i was.


I am wondering about the pedal all the way to the floor yet revs dont go any higher, is this a inherent drive by wire thing? that no more power for that gear means throttle would not be opened any further to waste gas?

[Mouse]

Has anyone else noticed that in the 2 known instances that the cars speed up only to (about) 100mph? If the car is at WOT why only to 100?

Another thing I notice is that this is happening a lot on the West but haven't heard much here on the Southeast of this happening. Can topography along with something else be a part of what's going on?

I was born and lived in Miami all my life. All I know are miles and miles of flat land. The tallest hill around here belongs to Waste Management.

[why?]

oh my, shaken up by going 90 mph, do these people have no life?

[Mouse]

He drives a Prius...What do you expect.

If he really "stood" on the brakes. I wanna see the tires. I'm pretty sure the tires have a different story to tell.

[Twistoffate0817]

The reason 50% of my threads made contain those words is simple: I have felt that my Yaris has been having problems since I purchased it. As I have read threads on this site I have discovered that some of my problems may not even be problems; it is just how the Yaris is.

For this thread, that is not the case. My pedal was stuck, I took it to the dealership, they could not fix it.

I do not know why people are posting on this thread bashing me. This forum is to gain information about the Yaris and that is exactly what I am doing.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Twistoffate0817

For this thread, that is not the case. My pedal was stuck, I took it to the dealership, they could not fix it.
...
I do not know why people are posting on this thread bashing me.

Perhaps I'm not the only one who finds your claim to be lacking in detail, unconvincing, and quite frankly, your posting history to be suspicious?

In short, I don't believe you. That's not bashing, BTW. That's telling it like it is.

As I've posted elsewhere, to anyone who has looked at, and considered the evidence (or lack, thereof) this whole sudden acceleration frenzy stinks to high heavens. And I'm very interested in just who the man behind the curtain might be. The vanquished U.S. auto industry? The U.S. government? (Of course, those are one and the same these days, aren't they?) The usual, irresponsible, sensationalistic churn of the media, in their continuing quest to sell controversy if they can't sell real news? All of the above?

I've no special love for Toyota. But I recognize an obvious witch hunt when I see one. And will continue to counter disinformation when and where I see it.

-Steve Bergman

[chriswb]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

Perhaps I'm not the only one who finds your claim to be lacking in detail, unconvincing, and quite frankly, your posting history to be suspicious?

In short, I don't believe you. That's not bashing, BTW. That's telling it like it is.

As I've posted elsewhere, to anyone who has looked at, and considered the evidence (or lack, thereof) this whole sudden acceleration frenzy stinks to high heavens. And I'm very interested in just who the man behind the curtain might be. The vanquished U.S. auto industry? The U.S. government? (Of course, those are one and the same these days, aren't they?) The usual, irresponsible, sensationalistic churn of the media, in their continuing quest to sell controversy if they can't sell real news? All of the above?

I've no special love for Toyota. But I recognize an obvious witch hunt when I see one. And will continue to counter disinformation when and where I see it.

-Steve Bergman

Steve,

If I am understanding you correctly, and feel free to clarify if I have misinterpreted this post, you are accusing Twistoffate0817 of being an agent working for a malicious government entity whose goal is to promote the American auto companies. What would be the motivation for hiring an individual to join a small car forum in order to sabotage Toyota's reputation?

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by chriswb

If I am understanding you correctly, and feel free to clarify if I have misinterpreted this post, you are accusing Twistoffate0817 of being an agent working for a malicious government entity whose goal is to promote the American auto companies. What would be the motivation for hiring an individual to join a small car forum in order to sabotage Toyota's reputation?

No. That would be unjustified paranoia. More likely he's just impressionable and harbors an overactive imagination. Read his earlier posts. From the very beginning, he just knew it, knew it, knew it, that the Yaris was going to be next. And then he just knew it, knew it, knew it, that *his* car was going to be one of the ones affected. Lo and behold... he now thinks that it did happen to his car. (Shock! Amazement!) A sort of "car owner's" version of hypochondria, one might say.

Parties interested in discrediting Japanese auto manufacturers are quite unlikely to care, specifically, about what goes on in the YarisWorld forums. I do, however, think that a confluence of factors, including action by vested interests in the US, the usual penchant of the mass media for inventing controversy to suit their own purposes, and the limited capacity for critical thinking of (too) many members of the public have resulted in the ridiculous farce which we are now witnessing.