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Old 09-05-2010, 01:58 PM   #1
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Suppose I could. didn't know how much posting I was going to do here but we do have one thing in common with these cars and thats the motor. I'll start a thread on this build and continue with updates on my head as they become available.

I think everyone is courious about how these heads will turn out.

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Old 09-06-2010, 09:56 AM   #2
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Nice setup, xbgod....
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Old 09-06-2010, 11:04 AM   #3
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H3Llion, I see you got your head package. courious how every thing looked to you as you opened it and inspected it. Also did you choose to put the head all back together your self? or just didn't want Bill to do it?

I'm making him assemble mine so I know that all the tolorance's are correct between the cams and the buckets.

I would imagine he preassembled yours to check all that but let me how all your stuff turns out.

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Old 09-22-2010, 11:15 AM   #4
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H3Llion,

Haven't heard from you about your head and cams. I hope your not the one that Bill said took it all apart and can't get it back together with the right specs. Courious to see how your's is doing

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Old 11-18-2010, 09:18 PM   #5
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H3Llion, I see you got your head package. courious how every thing looked to you as you opened it and inspected it. Also did you choose to put the head all back together your self? or just didn't want Bill to do it?

I'm making him assemble mine so I know that all the tolorance's are correct between the cams and the buckets.

I would imagine he preassembled yours to check all that but let me how all your stuff turns out.

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You'll still have to break it down in order to get it in. The bolts securing the head are directly under the cams. You should know this. As far as clearances, I took the head package to the guy installing it for me who's been working on cars in one capacity or another for about 30 years. He called me a couple days later and said "Holy shit. Whoever did this knew EXACTLY what they were doing."
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:30 AM   #6
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^ I have cams coming in now from overseas, after a year's R&D. I'll post up when they come in.

Three set ups will be available: street, N/A tuned and turbo.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:39 AM   #7
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Sounds good. But you try the first set. You will also need springs with those cams. You may try Eibach, I know gude buys them by the 1000 from them.

Or even Ferrea they make sets for these now.

I'm not a big fan of overseas manufacturing,,,,China....ect. So I hope you have a reliable source.

I've out sourced before and should have just kept it in house or bit the bullet and had Brian do it.

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Old 09-22-2010, 12:35 PM   #8
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Crower makes some great stuff.

I am a big fan of overseas manufacturing depending on some things. After all everything comes from China anyways! The only thing I hate about it is that it IS killing our manufacturing economy.

Ferrea valves are ridiculously expensive. Really $1000+ for the kit for a 4cylinder. Even if i had the cash, I still wouldn't drop that much. I know the crowd and aftermarket is there, but look at the SR20DET crew, a similar kit goes for like ~$300
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Old 09-22-2010, 01:32 PM   #9
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Yeah...Brian Crower...(great friend)

And untill the 1NZ-FE motor picks-up popularity internal parts will be pricy. As a manufacture anything less than a run of 500 is useless and cost prohibited. I would never run some cheap -ass china built crap on a 20K motor.

Ferrea ....expensive...yes, but made and tested here in America,on cmm machines to exacting tollerences. That stuff in China half the time is made friday at five-oclock just before beer-thirty.

Never go cheap on your motor, especially internals....it's the heart of your motor.

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Old 09-22-2010, 02:22 PM   #10
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Exactly, it is a waste of time and resources for someone like him. Even if the 1nz-fe is in alot of cars, they're not all tuners and doubtful alot will put headwork into it.

Yes, you are right, I would not try to cheap out, I have seen some terrible crap made in China... terrible, but part of the China hype is to shop around and find someone who does good work. Hard, but doable. We run rods(same weight and spec that we measured and stress tested) in our S4's that atleast 3 legit companies market as "American" made, handle up to 850hp and has been going strong for 5 years so far. This is one of the instance when China is somewhat acceptable.

But I mean at what cost, it took combing through companies and blowing rods out to find out what works best!? Not worth it IMHO on something like that

Simple things like exhaust, is alright. Even if it is sub par metal, it works excellent.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:00 PM   #11
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Sounds good. But you try the first set. You will also need springs with those cams.
I always do.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:50 AM   #12
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Keep in mind you will need custom ground buckets and springs for those cams.

the stock springs have about zero tollerence for play room.

Or you could do custom valve lengths and not need the buckets and springs.

Good luck. Keep me posted.

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Old 11-18-2010, 09:22 PM   #13
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^ well that's good to hear after dropping over a Gee into a head LOL
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:25 PM   #14
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$1620 to be exact, plus whatever the install ends up costing me.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:35 PM   #15
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:59 PM   #16
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dyno set for monday.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:49 PM   #17
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Well all is well with my set-up. Gude head package for mine is complete and set. O-ringed head was done right cams were ground good and tolorences were exact. My motor is all back together and every custom part fit's like a glove. I'll have new pics soon. I'll post final install of my complete engine bay right after the holiday. I replumbed all my stainless hose to black hose including all nitrous line so my new look is insane. I hit the MD500 on the 29th so well see what she does, with and without the nitrous. My fuel will be 107 octane along with methanol injection. This will be the only way I dyno so I will have no numbers on shit pump gas.Too much invested for shitty fuel and I want the most out of my motor.

I'll update soon wit pics.

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Old 11-23-2010, 07:20 PM   #18
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I'll be dyno'ing mine on "shit pump gas" so the rest of you have some real numbers to go by. :-P
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