I NEED Boost... Opinions puh-lease

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Do you have auto trans? If you don't, you definitely don't need this.

water cool the turbo!! It's two lines, and you will be glad you did.

I do have an automatic. Regarding fluid temperature, I'm going to get the gauge installed and monitor temps during normal driving conditions. I think I'm going to grab a transmission fluid cooler regardless though. I need to find a place to mount one first.

And I am planning on water cooling the turbo, but I may not right away. If I can figure out how to set it up while I'm doing the initial install then I definitely will.

Also - THANK YOU for the oil tap pics.
I'd rather turn that Zage oil pan into a cereal bowl before putting that thing on my car.

[Nexus1155]

Ahhh you guys say it like you drill into the block itself. That looks like the upper oil pan instead.

You are not going to be pushing crazy boost or hauling hard loads, if the tranny is going to blow under stress it will blow regardless. Burning up the bands are from the it staying in the shift for too long or something getting glazed over or whatnots, you would have to check it, but hey any transmission cooler is better than no tranny cooler on EVERY car.

Do it right the first time.... the water lines are easier to run than the oil lines themselves. If you are using the ZAGE kit, it may come oil cooled only anyways and thats all it will ever be, no way to change that unless you change turbos.

If the oil pan comes with your kit, i may be willing to buy it from you if the yaris is still around at the time.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

I get the feeling the transmission will be fine, but adding a cooler can only help. Plus, they're pretty cheap.

I'm pretty sure I read the Zage turbo can be water cooled, but I may have that mixed up with another turbo... I'll double check.

EDIT:
Can't find anything on it now...

I was wondering though, should I use higher octane fuel when I get this up and running? I understand the significance here, but would it actually be safer to retain the OEM suggested octane rating?

[Nexus1155]

When turbo always use teh super grades. So most likely 93 in Jersey.. Turbo setups are more prone to detonation especially when you do not remove timing from the stock maps.

[cali yaris]

here you go:

Here is my oil return tap. We put it way high up, works great.

[cali yaris]

91 here, definitely. you do NOT want detonation

[cali yaris]

^ I tune up to 15 psi on 91 pump gas alone. Above that, need to turn on the water/meth.

[Nexus1155]

To prime we usually disconnect ECU connectors and crank it over for 5 secs a handful of times. Won't start that way until you put the ecu connectors back in

[pimp my yaris]

Please post pics of your install. Sound like a great price!

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Originally Posted by pimp my yaris

Please post pics of your install. Sound like a great price!

Will do. I made a promise to Zage that I would anyway. There's going to be pictures + video during the install, steps taken, and a review at the end. I'll also be asking many questions here during the install as I have little experience with this.

[Yoda]

you will do fine

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Does the Yaris have a MAG or HALL type crank + cam sensor? Can't find this info anywheres

[Nexus1155]

Something I never looked into, but most cars nowadays use HALL? Why would you need to know this anyways lol.

I am also wondering where the oil and coolant lines are going to go, for hopefully future reference of course. Would you use braided line, or would you go with the rubber hose i see alot of cars use

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Originally Posted by Nexus1155

Something I never looked into, but most cars nowadays use HALL? Why would you need to know this anyways lol.

I am also wondering where the oil and coolant lines are going to go, for hopefully future reference of course. Would you use braided line, or would you go with the rubber hose i see alot of cars use

I need to know the sensor type for the FIC. And I'll be using a rubber hose for starters (it's part of the kit anyways).

Thanks cdydjded for confirming that too. I actually thought it was hall effect.

Now, here's the thing. I've been getting very familiar with the FIC install guide and have been debating what I want to do with it. I remember when I first began looking into forced induction, there was at least one mention in every thread about how much of a pain our ECU is due to its learning ability. Originally, I had planned to get the FIC to control as much as possible, but the more I think about it, I think it's the wrong approach. I'm aware that, in the least, I need to use the FIC to provide additional fuel during boost conditions. I admit my knowledge on ECUs is lacking, so I'm hoping you guys here (and my potential tuner) can shed some light on the following: will the ECU make an attempt to adjust timing / ignition / cam position etc. etc. when it sees boost conditions + additional fuel? Or will it rather trim fuel and try to maintain ideal conditions?

cdydjded, this is aimed mainly at you. I know you already told me you were only running fuel maps. However, I was reading one of your older threads recently and saw your plan for how the engine should run: stock without boost, FIC handles boost conditions. I couldn't agree more when it comes to reliability and overall effectiveness. Was this ever achieved?

Ultimately, my epiphany was that I could possibly use the ECU's learning capability to actually aid in having a proper tune, rather than it just being an enormous hassle. Lemme know what you guys think, I'm hoping to get it wired in this week.

[cali yaris]

I've had no trouble with rubber hose for my return line. I posted pics of the location recently.

[Bluevitz-rs]

The oil filter it pressurized. You can only return oil to the pan. Once you have the oil pan off, it's really easy to just drill and tap the block for one. But you could feed the turbo from that plate.

[Yoda]

can't help you but i am rooting for ya m8

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Thanks a bunch man.