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Old 01-19-2011, 02:05 AM   #1
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Sorry you had to strain your eyes . Next time use the ZOOM of your computer . Not providing you /others any personal info that find our posts amusing and make wise remarks ( harassment ) .
The guy's right. I'm on a 24 inch flatscreen and I had to zoom 10x to see any blue circle.

For the record my car is fine. Just as well, you've blown this thing up to sound like every other Yaris on the block is gushing oil like a blown BP rig, and yet every one of your pictures has you digging around the engine bay to find miniscule accumulations of oil. There is never a spot on the ground under my car. There's never been a spot anywhere under the hood. And there is never any Windex anywhere near my engine bay. I run full syn and have had zero problems. I just did 1700 miles in 5 days going from Savannah, GA to New York City and back. Guess what? Nothing. Guess I got lucky...and from the looks of it, nearly everyone else here did too. Surprise.

There is a huge difference between notifying the YarisWorld community of a finding, and jamming the information down people's throats and bitching when the community reacts in a different way from what you expected. Nobody likes being told they have faulty cars. People will appreciate a "heads up". Yes, you have good information. But you went a completely wrong route in presenting it. How many different sectors of the forum are your threads in?

Glad you got your sedan fixed. But it is an isolated problem. Nine total Yarii out of hundreds of thousands built is not a widespread pandemic. It just isn't.

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Old 01-19-2011, 01:59 PM   #2
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" The guy's right. I'm on a 24 inch flatscreen and I had to zoom 10x to see any blue circle. "

Sorry for the inconvenience .

" For the record my car is fine. "

Good for you .

" Just as well , you've blown this thing up to sound like every Yaris on the block is gushing oil like a blown BP rig and yet every one of your pictures has you digging around the engine bay to find miniscule accumulations of oil "

No new car should be leaking oil from the head gasket . This is $28,000 invested in 2 cars with this problem . That cash might grow on tress for you , but not us .

There is a huge difference between notifying the YarisWorld community of a finding, and jamming the information down people's throats and bitching when the community reacts in a different way from what you expected. Nobody likes being told they have faulty cars. People will appreciate a "heads up". Yes, you have good information. But you went a completely wrong route in presenting it. " How many different sectors of the forum are your threads in? . "

No law against it . Not jamming it down anyones throat . You either take it in stride or leave it .

" Glad you got your sedan fixed. But it is an isolated problem. Nine total Yarii out of hundreds of thousands built is not a widespread pandemic. It just isn't. "

Thanks , but it may be losing coolant since the repair . How can you be so sure about the amount of cars ?
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:46 AM   #3
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No new car should be leaking oil from the head gasket . This is $28,000 invested in 2 cars with this problem . That cash might grow on tress for you , but not us .

Thanks , but it may be losing coolant since the repair . How can you be so sure about the amount of cars ?
I agree. A new car should not have a head gasket leak. With that said, an '08 sedan likely manufactured in '07 is not a new car. Besides, this engine has been around in largely the same form in the USA since the '04 xA/xB. If it was truly a head gasket leak, there would've been some sort of notice within the last seven to eight years.

Like the other guy said, checking for two drops of oil on a certain side of the engine is not a proper identifier for diagnosing something as serious as a leaky head gasket. Do the proper tests, or have a mechanic do the proper tests and then come back and talk. A full UV leakdown examination or physically taking the heads off is much more thorough than wiping the side of the engine with a Windex rag and calling it done. Running around checking other Yarii that don't belong to you is asinine. You posted your findings for your car and that's great. We all have the info we need to decide if our cars are suffering the same problems as well, and can go from there.

BTW, you only compound the problem by saying you choose not to believe what a service mechanic or salesman (IE PEOPLE THAT HAVE FULL EXPERIENCE WITH THESE CARS) says when they report their findings to you. That's the way to go about reporting your findings on a forum.

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Old 01-19-2011, 02:18 AM   #4
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Sorry you had to strain your eyes . Next time use the ZOOM of your computer . Not providing you /others any personal info that find our posts amusing and make wise remarks ( harassment ) .
Way to be an ass to the one person who hasn't attacked you in this thread.

I know it's been said and will probably be ignored again but here goes - that looks more like a valve cover leak. This isn't really a big deal compared to a head gasket leak...
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:40 PM   #5
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" Way to be an ass to the one person who hasn't attacked you in this thread. "

Wrong .

" I know it's been said and will probably be ignored again but here goes - that looks more like a valve cover leak. This isn't really a big deal compared to a head gasket leak... "

Wrong again .
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:38 PM   #6
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" Way to be an ass to the one person who hasn't attacked you in this thread. "

Wrong .

" I know it's been said and will probably be ignored again but here goes - that looks more like a valve cover leak. This isn't really a big deal compared to a head gasket leak... "

Wrong again .
Well you win that argument. I now see exactly how I was wrong with all the facts you just provided me with those two words.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:22 PM   #7
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Well you win that argument. I now see exactly how I was wrong with all the facts you just provided me with those two words.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:11 PM   #8
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Way to be an ass to the one person who hasn't attacked you in this thread.
lol, thanks
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:35 PM   #9
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lol, thanks
Way to go with the flow , Smoochie .
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:33 PM   #10
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My son took his 08 yaris in to get it checked for head gasket leak they said it wasn't leaking here are some pics I took what do you guys think.
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:44 PM   #11
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If that's what you believe then fine . It's not the valve cover gasket(s) , I always check that . Have been working with cars for about 30 years . We've posted the worksheet and many other pics for proof . We'll have to wait and see if TOYOTA has an T.S.B. or RECALL for this matter . We think it's a bad batch of head gaskets . Reason is the new head cylinder gasket has yet to leak oil . The service department that did the work sent the original head cylinder gasket to TOYOTA for examination of any imperfections . Called TOYOTA and was told they do not share their findings with the public ( consumer ) . Don't forget the two 2010 5 door Certified YARIS had fresh oil in that spot . One had little over 3,000 miles and the other less than 5,000 . Checked the valve cover and the upper back of the block ( passenger side ) for any oil spilled from an oil change(s) by dealer and none was to be found on top or on the back of the upper block ( passenger side ) of either one . So , you have your take and we have ours from our experience .
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:59 PM   #12
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To us it looks wet as if to be loosing oil which collects road dust as in your pics . Run your fingertip under the head gasket to see if any oil collects on it . This is how I found our friends 2010 which leaks oil as our 2010 does and our 2008 did . Also look under the ledge of the block as in your picture to see if any oil has collected underneath . Like in the following pics from our 2 cars ( 08 at top , '10 below ). If you find any oil there you very likely have the leak .
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:22 AM   #13
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gonzo, the first pic u posted i would say is just road and "car" grime that settles there and sticks(as hershey will not accept, some oil is spilt when filling; if not from u then at the dealer and if not them from the factory), the second pic does look like it could have a leak at the gasket, it does look quite oilly. id say take some degreaser and spreay the crap out of the area, make sure it really well cleaned and take a pic of the clean spot and then check back in a few hundred km (or miles)

u definatly get bonus points for getting ur camera in that spot, very well done.

hershey for the record ur pics look extra "staged" or "serious" now with his pics next to it. the pics u posted look to have very fresh oil and a significant amount.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:42 PM   #14
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" hershey for the record ur pics look extra "staged" or "serious" now with his pics next to it. the pics u posted look to have very fresh oil and a significant amount. "

. Are you saying I somehow planted the oil there for both cars ? We've posted the worksheet and the extended warranty . Not much more we can do to prove this is real , not fiction .
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" hershey for the record ur pics look extra "staged" or "serious" now with his pics next to it. the pics u posted look to have very fresh oil and a significant amount. "

. Are you saying I somehow planted the oil there for both cars ? We've posted the worksheet and the extended warranty . Not much more we can do to prove this is real , not fiction .
lol, dont take it the wrong way; no i dont think u planted it there. but for there to be oil dripping like the pic u showed but no oil on the driveway and u not needing to add oil seems odd and i do still think MOST of ur evidence is spilled oil.

as for worksheets, if u go an complain to toyota they will do the work, they dont care, they get paid.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:09 PM   #16
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GONZO , you still may want to take a look at the area pictured for both our cars . You could always remove the plastic engine cover to see if any oil was spilled on top of the valve cover during an oil change and then look around the backside and corner of the valve cover to see if any oil is leaking from the valve cover . It only takes about 5 minutes to take of the cover for a better look . Good Luck .
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Here's some pics taken today . Top is engine cover removed showing no oil spilled during any of my oil changes since bought new , 2nd down is oil collecting underneath which you'll see the pattern is different than the previous pic from post #124 ( bottom pic ) , 3rd down is back and corner of valve cover gasket ( no oil ) , and bottom is side of valve cover gasket with no oil leaking . Not much more we can do to for proof .
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:03 PM   #18
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No new car should have an oil leak as our 2010 does , the 2008 did , and our friends 2010 does . He has over 60,000 miles on his . We're waiting to see how his car holds up as the mileage racks up . If his develops problems we'll then get our 2010 repaired under warranty .

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